Evangelicals Behaving Badly...

[neonzx]

Kenneth Copeland
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1 ... 68708?s=20

This interview by @4lisaguerrero for @InsideEdition is truly amazing.

I think that Inside Edition interview is not current. I remember it from years ago.

[Frater I*I]

I think that Inside Edition interview is not current. I remember it from years ago.

2019...

[raison de arizona]

Noted, and docking George Conway's credibility a suitable amount.

[raison de arizona]

Taking a bit of liberty with the subject...

The #LDS insurance provider is refusing to pay sex abuse claims against the @Ch_JesusChrist. The insurance company says the Church negligently caused abuse by failing "to report a reasonable suspicion of child sexual abuse" and "to supervise and train clergy."

[Ben-Prime]

Does this mean the LDS church itself will be on the hook?

[bill_g]

There's no LDS clergy. They are all laymen. Every man becomes part of the priesthood. Every man is eligible to become part of the leadership. And if they navigate the internal politics of the church well enough, they can rise within it.

[Volkonski]

Piety and Profanity: The Raunchy Christians Are Here
In the Trump era, a surprising number of evangelicals are rejecting modesty and turning toward the risqué.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/17/us/e ... 595e2e6e66

The “Conservative Dad’s Real Women of America” 2024 pinup calendar features old-school images of sexiness — bikinis, a red sports car, a bubble bath.

The models are influencers and aspiring politicians familiar to the very online pro-Trump right. In one image, a BlazeTV host in a short skirt lights a copy of The New York Times on fire with a cigar. Another model, the former N.R.A. spokeswoman Dana Loesch, hoists two rifles.

Published by a “woke-free beer” company hastily launched last year as an alternative to Bud Light, the calendar was clearly meant to provoke liberals. But when photos of it began circulating online in December, progressives did not pay much attention. Instead, it sparked a heated squabble on the right over whether “conservative dads” who happen to be Christians should reject the calendar on moral grounds, or embrace it as an irreverent win for the good guys.

Allie Beth Stuckey, an evangelical commentator and podcaster, condemned the calendar as “soft porn” marketed to married men, and saw it as proof of growing polarization between Christian and secular conservatism. Other prominent Christian conservatives joined her in expressing their disgust.

But the calendar itself suggested that Christian and secular conservatism are not exactly as distinct as Ms. Stuckey and others might wish. The calendar’s cover model, Riley Gaines, a former college swimmer and activist against transgender women’s participation in women’s sports, frequently speaks at church events and evangelical conferences, and frames her cause as a “spiritual battle.”

In another image, a crucifix hangs prominently on the kitchen wall behind a woman in a tiny skirt, apron and platform heels. On the platform X, the model — Josie Glabach, who goes by “The Redheaded Libertarian” — said she was working to provide for her family, and defended her conservative bona fides in part by referring to her family’s Catholic faith. Using vividly vulgar language, she wrote that she doesn’t care “if the fact that I look hot doing any of it offends your senses.”

Such a debate would have been unimaginable at the turn of the millennium, when the best-known evangelical Christians in America were the evangelist Billy Graham, George W. Bush — the embodiment of establishment Republicanism — and Ned Flanders, a character on “The Simpsons” known for his cheerful prudery.

As a core faction in the Republican coalition, conservative evangelicals have long influenced the party’s policy priorities, including opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage. And the influence extended to conservative culture, where evangelical norms against vulgarity were rarely challenged in public.

In some ways, they remain intact. Most pastors don’t cuss from the pulpit, or at all. Mainstream conservative churches still teach their young people to save sex for marriage and avoid pornography.

Yet a raunchy, outsider, boobs-and-booze ethos has elbowed its way into the conservative power class, accelerated by the rise of Donald J. Trump, the declining influence of traditional religious institutions and a shifting media landscape increasingly dominated by the looser standards of online culture.

[Slim Cognito]

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I don't think any of these people have ever been to Mexico or met a Mexican. It is 80% Catholic, and it shows. And they aren't the Easter and Christmas variety either. Anyway.

MAGA pastor/congressional candidate Mark Burns says there must be wall on the southern border because "there is a wall in Heaven" to keep people out.

[RTH10260]

I don't think any of these people have ever been to Mexico or met a Mexican. It is 80% Catholic, and it shows. And they aren't the Easter and Christmas variety either. Anyway.
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/stat ... 1538150831

MAGA pastor/congressional candidate Mark Burns says there must be wall on the southern border because "there is a wall in Heaven" to keep people out.

Yeah, with pearly gates iirc and a gatekeeper. But i have yet to hear of the heavenly CBP. Seems one single guy can handle the visa process all by himself. Also too folks seem to queue up in an orderly manner when waiting for entry. Well behaved folks as one might expect of real Christians. The unreal ones get their visa cancelled, realy woke stuff, but who am I to criticise.

[bob]

I don't think any of these people have ever been to Mexico or met a Mexican. It is 80% Catholic, and it shows. And they aren't the Easter and Christmas variety either. Anyway.

MAGA pastor/congressional candidate Mark Burns says there must be wall on the southern border because "there is a wall in Heaven" to keep people out.

I'm assuming most ("extreme") Evangelicals don't consider Catholics to be sufficiently Christian, and that Catholics won't be going to Heaven.

[raison de arizona]

True dat. Catholic AND Brown, two strikes!

In other news...

Christian nationalist/Seven Mountains dominionist Lance Wallnau calls for prayer to protect Rep. Barry Loudermilk because he's on "the Lord's mission" to expose the "truth" about Jan. 6 and the devil is therefore trying to take him out of office.

[raison de arizona]

Toeing the line.
https://x.com/Franklin_Graham/status/17 ... 4602577085

Pray for former President @realDonaldTrump. His enemies want to do everything they can to destroy him, to put him in jail, or to drag out this trial to prevent him from campaigning. I’m not telling you to vote for him—I’m asking you to pray for him.

[RVInit]

[raison de arizona]

Copeland: "I'm a very wealthy man."

Jesus responds, "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." -Matthew 19:24

[northland10]

Copeland: "I'm a very wealthy man."

Jesus responds, "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." -Matthew 19:24

You seem to be under the misunderstanding that Jesus has anything to do with their religion. Jesus should be charging them for NIL.

[keith]

Copeland: "I'm a very wealthy man."

Jesus responds, "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." -Matthew 19:24

You seem to be under the misunderstanding that Jesus has anything to do with their religion. Jesus should be charging them for NIL.

[zekeb]

Copeland: "I'm a very wealthy man."

Jesus responds, "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." -Matthew 19:24

You seem to be under the misunderstanding that Jesus has anything to do with their religion. Jesus should be charging them for NIL.

If you have money it's because Jesus provided the poor people for you to take advantage of.

[MN-Skeptic]

Wikipedia - Prosperity theology

Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel, the health and wealth gospel, the gospel of success, or seed faith) is a religious belief among some Charismatic Christians that financial blessing and physical well-being are always the will of God for them, and that faith, positive speech, and donations to religious causes will increase one's material wealth. Material and especially financial success is seen as a sign of divine favor.

In 2007, U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley opened a probe into the finances of six televangelism ministries that promoted prosperity theology: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, Creflo Dollar Ministries, Benny Hinn Ministries, Bishop Eddie Long Ministries, Joyce Meyer Ministries, and Paula White Ministries. In January 2011, Grassley concluded his investigation stating that he believed self-regulation by religious organizations was preferable to government action. Only the ministries led by Meyer and Hinn cooperated with Grassley's investigation.[49]

The inauguration of Donald Trump as the 45th President of the United States featured prayers from two preachers known for advocating prosperity theology. Paula White, one of Trump's spiritual advisers, gave the invocation.

[Suranis]

Saw this on Facebook

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And Then I found this was last week. So they had an act to kick off the conference, one of the pastors criticised the church owner for allowing it, he get's escorted off stage, and squabbles ensue... *sigh*