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It surged! 12 now! 20% increase.
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Orlylicious wrote:It surged! 12 now! 20% increase.
Needs 99,988 signatures by February 20, 2017 to get a response from the White House
12 signed
Hey, they're patriots! That's 12 MILLION in patriot-math!


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Petition is up to 19! They may yet fill the back room in a Denny's! :dance:

* * *
ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONED, BUT NOT ANSWERED
by George Miller, ©2017, Publisher, Citizens Journal
Other whoppers in this piece:
[Lakin's] “crime?” Requesting proof of command authority before he would do his upcoming next deployment. Technically, he was well within his rights to do so, as it is part of military protocol. Technically, it had never been provided, nor is there any law saying that proof must be provided.

* * *

This had happened before, but in each case, the initiator was quietly escorted off stage via a discharge. Because of Lakin’s higher profile, outstanding record and public insistence on his point, the Defense Dept. decided to make an example of him and that they did.


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Any bets on how long it takes the Trump WH to remove the petition pages from the website?


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P&E: Is the Lakin Petition Signature Count Accurate?:
SIGNATURES REGISTERING, BUT SLOWLY

A petition asking that former Lt. Col. and Dr. Terrence Lakin be reinstated in the Army following his 2011 dishonorable discharge for having questioned Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility shows 24[*] signatures as of 7:29 p.m. EST on Tuesday.

Launched on Saturday, dozens have reported signing or attempting to sign without having received the necessary confirmation link.

Based on solely the number of comments submitted in response to subject articles here, the number of signatories should theoretically be much higher. On Sunday evening, The Post & Email’s readership skyrocketed in response to its publication of an interview with the petition’s author, Gary Wilmott, which was widely circulated on Facebook and through email by supporters.
Kerchner wrote:IMO, hundreds have signed already and the White House IT problems during the transition lost them. I know personally the number who tweeted, facebooked, and emailed me that they signed it was in the many dozens. And my blog traffic for the Petition announcement post I made had 10x the normal traffic. Possibly the outgoing Obama diehards in the IT department glitched something in the site on purpose to make the transition for the site harder, sort of like the diehard Clinton people when they left took all the W keys off the computer keyboards when they departed the White House on the last day. I think all people who signed over the weekend and on Monday should re-sign the Petition. JMHO.
* 32, presently.


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With the signature of Donald Duck just now the petition just reached 33 votes :lol:


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Question, does Rharon actually know the difference between dozens and hundreds and some and many? It would appear not.


The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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Notorial Dissent wrote:Question, does Rharon actually know the difference between dozens and hundreds and some and many? It would appear not.
I think her counting system is: one, two, many, millions, tyranny!


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As of 5:45 am PST this morning the Petitition count is standing at 38. Or should I say "standing-still?"

At this rate they might actually get somewhere between 250 and 300 signatures...wow! :o


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Sam the Centipede wrote:
Notorial Dissent wrote:Question, does Rharon actually know the difference between dozens and hundreds and some and many? It would appear not.
I think her counting system is: one, two, many, millions, tyranny!
Wouldn't that actually be tranny in Rharon spell?
mighty dawg wrote:As of 5:45 am PST this morning the Petitition count is standing at 38. Or should I say "standing-still?"

At this rate they might actually get somewhere between 250 and 300 signatures...wow! :o
You think there are actually that many literate birfer/paytriots out there???


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Sam the Centipede wrote:
Notorial Dissent wrote:Question, does Rharon actually know the difference between dozens and hundreds and some and many? It would appear not.
I think her counting system is: one, two, many, millions, tyranny!
Its one, two, hrair. (From the novel Watership Down).


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mighty dawg wrote:As of 5:45 am PST this morning the Petitition count is standing at 38. Or should I say "standing-still?"

At this rate they might actually get somewhere between 250 and 300 signatures...wow! :o
Have you lost faith? Donald Duck, Howdy Doody and their friends haven't signed yet.


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Booth on the Facebook:
TONIGHT Weds Jan 25, 5:00pm-6:00pm Eastern (8-9 West Coast) on the Barry Farber show - Our very own Gordon Smith (G-Man) will be Barry's guest to discuss the efforts we are making to restore Dr. Terry Lakin's Army career that obama destroyed when Terry asked to see proof that obama was who he said he was and was Constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief. Terry is a 18-year decorated Army Flight Surgeon who made several deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. Terry questioned obama's legitimacy. All he wanted was the truth. Instead he got prison, total forfeiture of all pay and allowances and dismissal from the Service.
Ellen Field wrote:We're earlier on the West Coast. If it's 5 eastern it's 2 here.
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From the George Miller piece on the Pest and Efail (I miss hearing Patrick use that phrase).
George Miller wrote:Mr. Wilmott told us today that Lakin informed him last week that he wishes to resume his Army career and is ready and willing to do so. He envisions no deployment problems, either.
Absolute BS. Lakin wants his pension back. He's not interested in serving, just the benefits.


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ZekeB wrote:
mighty dawg wrote:As of 5:45 am PST this morning the Petitition count is standing at 38. Or should I say "standing-still?"

At this rate they might actually get somewhere between 250 and 300 signatures...wow! :o
Have you lost faith? Donald Duck, Howdy Doody and their friends haven't signed yet.
tsk tsk tsk http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 63#p854836 ;)


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After five days there are 57 signatures on the Lakin Petition. This is really taking off! :dance: :clap: :thumbs: :pigsfly:

It's time we start tendering predictions and making bets about what the final count will actually be.


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mighty dawg wrote:After five days there are 57 signatures on the Lakin Petition. This is really taking off! :dance: :clap: :thumbs: :pigsfly:

It's time we start tendering predictions and making bets about what the final count will actually be.
Proof that the Obama administration is suppressing signatures and violating the will of The People!! Oh wait... it's 2017... and Obama's left :crying:


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Northland10 wrote:From the George Miller piece on the Pest and Efail (I miss hearing Patrick use that phrase).
George Miller wrote:Mr. Wilmott told us today that Lakin informed him last week that he wishes to resume his Army career and is ready and willing to do so. He envisions no deployment problems, either.
Absolute BS. Lakin wants his pension back. He's not interested in serving, just the benefits.
Even if he is interested in serving, so what? Even if he doesn't "envision" any "deployment problems," so what. The Army needed him serve and it needed him to deploy back when he was refusing to do it. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but these people who supposedly love this country don't really give a rats ass about anything except the black man being out of office. :mad2:


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Northland10 wrote:From the George Miller piece on the Pest and Efail (I miss hearing Patrick use that phrase).
George Miller wrote:Mr. Wilmott told us today that Lakin informed him last week that he wishes to resume his Army career and is ready and willing to do so. He envisions no deployment problems, either.
Absolute BS. Lakin wants his pension back. He's not interested in serving, just the benefits.
*Thanks* :)

As for Lakin, even if by some miracle he was restored to active duty and his record expunged, it's doubtful he would be welcome. He's got a well-deserved reputation as a "Blue Falcon", and one of the things that came out at the court martial was that the quality of care in his team suffered when he refused a direct order from his CO and didn't deploy.

The person who deployed in his place missed his wife getting a major military decoration. AND Lakin's CO, the one he lipped off to, was at the time the only active-duty person in the US military to hold the Medal of Honor.

To say Lakin would get a VERY chilly reception from the people he would be working with may well be the understatement of the decade.


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Now it's 67!
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67 signed

Since we have some military law experts here, is this even possible? I mean, I guess Donald could issue a pardon, but even if he did, would Lakin be able to a) get his pension back? b) have his discharge changed to honorable because of the pardon? c) actually be readmitted to the Armed Forces?

It seems ridiculous when he himself pled guilty, but with such brilliant minds like Rharon and Miki Booth involved and so tight with Donald, made me wonder if there's anything that could possibly happen in our reality-based world.


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Lakin's BF status was cemented when, after refusing to deploy and requiring another physician to do so on an emergency basis, he dissed one of the military's few Medal of Honor winners who was still serving on active duty.


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Orlylicious wrote:Now it's 67!
Needs 99,933 signatures by February 20, 2017 to get a response from the White House
67 signed

Since we have some military law experts here, is this even possible? I mean, I guess Donald could issue a pardon, but even if he did, would Lakin be able to a) get his pension back? b) have his discharge changed to honorable because of the pardon? c) actually be readmitted to the Armed Forces?

It seems ridiculous when he himself pled guilty, but with such brilliant minds like Rharon and Miki Booth involved and so tight with Donald, made me wonder if there's anything that could possibly happen in our reality-based world.
Right now, the DOJ website states that a pardon will not change the nature of the discharge as that is decided by military authorities.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-i ... structions

Birthers love to make up procedures that don't exist and ignore the ones that do exist.


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As I recall, Lakin didn't have twenty years in. He wouldn't have received a pension in any event.


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Orlylicious wrote:Now it's 67!
Needs 99,933 signatures by February 20, 2017 to get a response from the White House
67 signed

Since we have some military law experts here, is this even possible? I mean, I guess Donald could issue a pardon, but even if he did, would Lakin be able to a) get his pension back? b) have his discharge changed to honorable because of the pardon? c) actually be readmitted to the Armed Forces?

It seems ridiculous when he himself pled guilty, but with such brilliant minds like Rharon and Miki Booth involved and so tight with Donald, made me wonder if there's anything that could possibly happen in our reality-based world.
As to a), no, because he wasn't eligible.

As to b) and c), it would be theoretically possible, but not automatic, and unlikely in the extreme. First he'd have to be pardoned, then he'd have to take that to the Board for Correction of Military Records and ask to have his record corrected to reflect that he has either an honorable discharge or has not been discharged.

That eould never happen, but what do I know? I thought Donald Trump would never be President.


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PatGund wrote: As for Lakin, even if by some miracle he was restored to active duty and his record expunged, it's doubtful he would be welcome. He's got a well-deserved reputation as a "Blue Falcon", and one of the things that came out at the court martial was that the quality of care in his team suffered when he refused a direct order from his CO and didn't deploy.

The person who deployed in his place missed his wife getting a major military decoration. AND Lakin's CO, the one he lipped off to, was at the time the only active-duty person in the US military to hold the Medal of Honor.

To say Lakin would get a VERY chilly reception from the people he would be working with may well be the understatement of the decade.
I have told this story before on RC Radio. During the Lakin trial I was on a plane seated next to a young soldier who had served several tours in Afghanistan. He was telling me about the hardships of living in tents, burning up in summer, getting flooded out in the rainy season, and of course the constant danger. I asked him if he knew who Dr. Terry Lakin was. He said "Yes we know all about him. He is a turd."

I suspect if Lakin went back in he had better be on the lookout for friendly fire.


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