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Post by bob » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:13 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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Why did I bother to go to law school when I could have just made up whatever law I liked?
I KNOW! I mean:
Oren Long wrote:I would not be surprised if the Supreme Court, in some long-past case, unilaterally ruled that Article III, Section Two, Paragraph Two somehow, magically, mysteriously does not really mean what it so clearly DOES mean.
IF ONLY there was a method to determine whether Congress has spoken about the Supreme Court's original jurisdiction (hint: it has*), and whether there have been court decisions about this very topic (hint: there are).

Why do research when you can just divine the (obviously correct) answer all by yerself?


* Confidential to Mr. Long: Sekrit Stuffs!
Concurrent jurisdiction: since 1789, the states have been allowed to sue the federal government in those pesky inferior federal courts. You can thank the first Congress for that one.
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:38 am

Obviously because it is so much easier to make it up as you go along.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

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Post by Sam the Centipede » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:41 am

bob wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:13 pm
IF ONLY there was a method to determine whether Congress has spoken about the Supreme Court's original jurisdiction (hint: it has*), and whether there have been court decisions about this very topic (hint: there are).
But but but … isn't there a technique that comes before that: reading?

As in actually reading the actual words. My non-lawyer, non-sovcit understanding of the plain meaning of the Article is exactly opposite to Long's misunderstanding. It tells us which courts can adjudicate the original complaint from a state and says that the lower federal courts can do so but the federal Supreme Court must keep its doors closed until there is an appeal. Seems clear and reasonable. It also mentions other parties but they're not relevant here.

Words and sentences out of context, wilful misinterpretation, use of incorrect versions, bad translations, inappropriate definitions of terms are all tools that the sovcits use to create a fantasy world of crazy fake law, fske history and fake precedent.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:10 am

That assumes they have EVER actually read the Constitution and not bowdlerized excerpts that fit their need. I seriously doubt that most if not all of them never have. Too short of an attention span, too little familiarity with real written English, and/or just too plain stupid, ignorant, and illiterate to actually get through it all without having a brain blowout.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:05 pm
Why did I bother to go to law school when I could have just made up whatever law I liked?

All those wasted years. All that wasted money.
Because your way pays a LOT better.
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Post by realist » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:32 am

Oren Long wrote:
I would not be surprised if the Supreme Court, in some long-past case, unilaterally ruled that Article III, Section Two, Paragraph Two somehow, magically, mysteriously does not really mean what it so clearly DOES mean.
Where the hell do these people come from? :brickwallsmall:
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Post by realist » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:53 am

Bonus Comment:
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Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 7:37 PM
“In ALL (emphasis added) …IN WHICH A STATE SHALL BE PARTY”

Does that mean that when Brooke Paige sued the Vermont Secretary of State the case should have gone straight to the Supreme Court?
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Whatever4 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:55 am
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:05 pm
Why did I bother to go to law school when I could have just made up whatever law I liked?

All those wasted years. All that wasted money.
Because your way pays a LOT better.
And you don't have to worry about going to jail, at least some lawyers.
The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.

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Post by Reality Check » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:42 am

These morons are following the "if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth" playbook. Unfortunately, it seems to not be working out so well for them.
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P&E Presidential Eligibility is not a “Racist” Issue:
[If] Andrew Yang’s parents, described as “immigrants” in his Wikipedia biography, were not naturalized at the time of his birth in Schenectady, NY, he is not eligible.
P&E: Is Andrew Yang a Natural Born Citizen?:
Joseph DeMaio wrote:DEMOCRATS RUN MULTIPLE CANDIDATES WITH QUESTIONABLE ELIGIBILITY

This post by the intrepid P&E Editor is spot-on for calling out the leftist argument that, somehow, it is “racist” to question a person’s constitutional eligibility. The “racist” narrative began before and during the second usurpation of the United States presidency by one Barack Hussein Obama II. During this sad era in the nation’s history, the pejorative term “birther” was concocted. . . .

Recently, because several other “persons of color” have announced their candidacy for the presidency, the [birther] pejorative has been dusted off and hurled at anyone having the temerity to even suggest that, for example, Kamala Harris or Tulsi Gabbard might not be eligible.
What could possibly be racist about inventing a requirement that affects only people of color? :roll:
The Editor’s above post, moreover, draws into question yet another Democrat presidential candidate’s “natural born Citizen” bona fides, thus piquing your humble servant’s curiosity. Could it be that we now have three (3) Democrats competing for the right – perhaps better labeled as a “2020 death wish” – to challenge President Trump? The person in question is: Andrew Yang.

[ * * * ]

As for Mr. Yang, although he was born in 1975 in Schenectady, New York – unquestionably geographically located within the United States – his bio reflects that his parents were “immigrants from Taiwan” who met while they were both graduate students at the University of California at Berkeley. His father, Kei Hsiung Yang, and his mother, Nancy Yang, moved to the United States in the 1960’s to pursue their higher education goals. The anecdotal evidence retrievable via the Internet, however, does not (as yet) disclose whether either or both Mr. or Mrs. Yang had become naturalized U.S. citizens by the time their son, Andrew, was born.

[ * * * ]

As for Mr. Yang, although he was born in 1975 in Schenectady, New York – unquestionably geographically located within the United States – his bio reflects that his parents were “immigrants from Taiwan” who met while they were both graduate students at the University of California at Berkeley. His father, Kei Hsiung Yang, and his mother, Nancy Yang, moved to the United States in the 1960’s to pursue their higher education goals. The anecdotal evidence retrievable via the Internet, however, does not (as yet) disclose whether either or both Mr. or Mrs. Yang had become naturalized U.S. citizens by the time their son, Andrew, was born.

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The eligibility question will likely become moot and academic as to Mr. Yang when it becomes apparent that he will not succeed in becoming the nominee of the Democrats to challenge President Trump. But the fact that the issue may become moot as to him does not mean that the underlying problem has evaporated as to others. Stay tuned… this could get interesting.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:13 pm

When was Donald Trump's mother naturalized? Sharon should know the date by heart, right?

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:13 pm
When was Donald Trump's mother naturalized?
1942; the current president was born in 1946.
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Post by Northland10 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:27 pm

bob wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:26 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:13 pm
When was Donald Trump's mother naturalized?
1942; the current president was born in 1946.
Luckily, if Don Jr., Ivanka, or Eric try to run some day, Rharon and her elk will certainly scream loudly that the three Trumpettes are not NBC.
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Post by bob » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:31 pm

Assuming any birther will still be living then. (NADT.)
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Post by ZekeB » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:35 pm

Northland10 wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:27 pm
Luckily, if Don Jr., Ivanka, or Eric try to run some day, Rharon and her elk will certainly scream loudly that the three Trumpettes are not NBC.
No way any of them would be elected anyway. Oh wait, how long ago was the Justice Department hiding what they were finding with their Watergate investigation? In forty years people will forget what the Justice Department was hiding with the Trump investigation. If Rharon really wants to go down in history she can use her super-duper journalistic prowess and get a copy of the complete Mueller report.
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Post by Foggy » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:41 pm

DeMaio the Moron wrote: The anecdotal evidence retrievable via the Internet, however, does not (as yet) disclose whether either or both Mr. or Mrs. Yang had become naturalized U.S. citizens by the time their son, Andrew, was born.
It's possible that may be because it is totally irrelevant, here in the world of reality.
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Post by bob » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:54 am

P&E comment:
Bob68 wrote:Notice the leftist who call President Trump every name in the book rarely if ever call him a “birther” the name they created that was supposed to be as bad as anything a person can be called. Trump did say, IMO to be left alone while running for president, Obama was born in the U.S.A.

The left and their owned media never stop calling President Trump a long list of other names over and over and over …..Why did they stop calling him a “birther”? IMO it’s because they don’t want that subject brought up and maybe force Trump to expose the truth now……..the question is, will it ever happen, even with President Trump………………?'
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Post by Sam the Centipede » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:36 am

"Bob68"? I wonder about his chosen handle, is Bob boasting about his IQ?

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Post by ZekeB » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:06 am

Sam the Centipede wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:36 am
"Bob68"? I wonder about his chosen handle, is Bob boasting about his IQ?
I don't think so. 68 is the IQ of the Stable Genius.
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Post by Suranis » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:15 am

68 is probably his favorite sexual position.
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Post by bob » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 am

I actually know the answer. :bag:

Bob was 68 years old when he made the account....like 8 years ago.
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Post by Northland10 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:02 am

bob wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 am
I actually know the answer. :bag:

Bob was 68 years old when he made the account....like 8 years ago.
I was 10 when I made mine :mrgreen:
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Post by Sam the Centipede » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:29 pm

Northland10 wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:02 am
bob wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 am
I actually know the answer. :bag:

Bob was 68 years old when he made the account....like 8 years ago.
I was 10 when I made mine :mrgreen:
So your IQ isn't 10? Higher or lower? :smoking:

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