Gun Control

[somerset]

I'm speechless. Are there really people this stupid outside of institutions? I've spilled more that that out of the end of a badly rolled joint before, sure as hell no one ever died from that much.

Looking at some of their other posts, it really looks like a joke to me. Another image was of a pair of steaks and a captain claiming that a single joint will make your lungs look like this. And another saying pot caused 9/11. A real whackjob christian twitter would be unlikely to pass up the opportunity to blame jews or satanists or muslims or catholics for 9/11.

Too, also - "The" pot is something grandparents used to say in the 60s and 70s. Who uses that term now?

[keith]

If 6,000 teens were dying every day, it'd be bigger news.

Edit: That's 2,190,000 a year.

The ACTUAL number is 0.

[Foggy]

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Yeah, you can't really overdose on marijuana.

I tried, though. I did give it a hell of a try.

[Suranis]

It came up in my support group the last session and the councilor said the amount of kids he has seen have been driven into therapy by it is unreal.

So, no I don't think its very funny. And the smell of the stuff makes me ill. But I know that I'm, again, on the "wrong" side here.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

It came up in my support group the last session and the councilor said the amount of kids he has seen have been driven into therapy by it is unreal.

So, no I don't think its very funny. And the smell of the stuff makes me ill. But I know that I'm, again, on the "wrong" side here.

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[keith]

It came up in my support group the last session and the councilor said the amount of kids he has seen have been driven into therapy by it is unreal.

So, no I don't think its very funny. And the smell of the stuff makes me ill. But I know that I'm, again, on the "wrong" side here.

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I have no doubt that psycho/physical effects from marijuana can be bad, even life threatening, however, NOBODY dies from smoking pot. It is not physically possible to smoke enough pot to die from it - you get way too stoned to keep going before you get within cooee of an overdose. I expect driving under the influence is not a good idea (though stoned drivers tend to drive slower), and accidents have probably happened - that is certainly a possibility. But unlike alcohol poisoning, marijuana poisoning is a vanishingly remote possibility.

ETA:

Rates, characteristics and manner of cannabis-related deaths in Australia 2000–2018

A total of 559 cases were identified, with a mean age of 35.8 years, 81.2% were male. The crude mortality rate per 100,000 people ranged between 0.10 (CI = 0.06−0.15) and 0.23 (CI = 0.17−0.30). The manner of deaths were: accidental injury (29.9%), suicide (25.0%), polysubstance toxicity (17.0%), natural disease (16.1 %), natural disease and drug effect/toxicity (7.9%), assault (3.0%) and unascertained (1.1%). No deaths were solely due to cannabis toxicity.

[Sam the Centipede]

Anecdotally I hear the same as TRL: that a significant tranche of people with psychiatric problems appear to indulge (or have indulged) in high use of strong cannabis. Cause, effect, correlation, coincidence? Not for me to say. I don't smoke anything.

As keith indicates, I don't think anybody in saneworld believes cannabis kills directly. Perhaps (and arguably) indirectly if it exacerbates psychological problems leading to suicide, but I am sure mild usage saves many more lives by keeping people feeling calmer, less pained, making healthier decisions.

Deffo less damaging than booze. There's a killer, despite Jesus approving of it so much that he is reported to have turned water into wine!

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

Thanks for making the distinction about overdosing not possible on marijuana as opposed to other substances. I was not focusing on that part of the discussion and did not intend to convey that I agreed with that.

[raison de arizona]

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Marijuana can be abused just like any other substance. I agree with Sam that it is better than alcohol. I know that with my arthritis, it helps immeasurably and makes it possible for me to do things I would otherwise no be able to do. FWIW.

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/166146 ... 12481?s=20

It's been a year since Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas turned into another tragedy in America.

A year of missed birthdays.
A year of every day joys – his smile, her laugh – gone.

Today, we mourn the 19 children and two educators stolen from us by gun violence.

But Uvalde was going to be different! There was going to be some real change!

[Dave from down under]

Unfortunately after a couple of decades without a school shooting in the country..

Thankfully no one was injured...

and as a result

Premier praises response to 'traumatic' event
The WA premier thanked the staff and students for their "calmness under pressure" and said the school practised lockdown protocols twice a year.

"Can I congratulate all of them on what they did yesterday, obviously it was traumatic and it'll no doubt have some lasting impacts on some of the people involved," Mr McGowan said.

Mr McGowan said the government was moving quickly to reform gun laws in the state, which he said will be the toughest in the country.

"This is the sort of thing that you see on television in the United States," he said.

"It's not the sort of thing you expect or should expect to see happen here in Australia.

"It's one of those things that we all shake our heads about.

"There's 360,000 guns in Western Australia. That's way too many.

"We're going to deal with it and that means there'll be tougher controls, and there'll be fewer guns."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-25/ ... /102388604

[raison de arizona]

[Greatgrey]

Guy goes to buy a gun, takes his buddy along. Guy can’t figure out how to get the slide off the new gun, so his buddy pulls out his to show him how. Only he’s not really conversant with the procedure as well, and…. You know how this ends.

[Dave from down under]

Well regulated militia.

[RTH10260]

Yes - regulates itself according to the Darwin Award laws

[Sam the Centipede]

No, no, no you have it all wrong, you deranged libs! If it weren't for you anti-freedom communists there would have been a good guy with an assault rifle standing by who would have seen the guy fiddling incompetently with his friend's gun and shot him dead on the spot.

Or perhaps just tasered him.

I guess that pair just added to the statistic that a gun owner or the owner's family is more likely to be injured by his/her gun than anyone else.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

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The Fogbow Hold My Beer Award is now bestowed on the fellow with the loaded gun.

[Suranis]

Guy goes to buy a gun, takes his buddy along. Guy can’t figure out how to get the slide off the new gun, so his buddy pulls out his to show him how. Only he’s not really conversant with the procedure as well, and…. You know how this ends.

https://twitter.com/Scottcrates/status/ ... 76224?s=20

Bonus points for shooting his pal in the dick.

To be fair it looks to me like he took the clip out before messing with the second gun, but there must have still been "one in the chamber."

Anyway, good thing he was in a gun shop, so the man can replace his lost member with ease.

[Gregg]

Guy goes to buy a gun, takes his buddy along. Guy can’t figure out how to get the slide off the new gun, so his buddy pulls out his to show him how. Only he’s not really conversant with the procedure as well, and…. You know how this ends.

https://twitter.com/Scottcrates/status/ ... 76224?s=20

Bonus points for shooting his pal in the dick.

To be fair it looks to me like he took the clip out before messing with the second gun, but there must have still been "one in the chamber."

Anyway, good thing he was in a gun shop, so the man can replace his lost member with ease.

Which could qualify him for the exceedingly rare non-posthumous Darwin Award.

[raison de arizona]

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 19.1.0.pdf

[Dave from down under]

Happy for that to go to court.

So long as the father is charged with negligent homicide at the very least.

[neeneko]

Manufacturing and selling a pistol without a safety? I have mixed feelings on a lot of the ideas for suing gun manufacturers, but a product that dangerous is kinda beyond the pale.

[sugar magnolia]

Manufacturing and selling a pistol without a safety? I have mixed feelings on a lot of the ideas for suing gun manufacturers, but a product that dangerous is kinda beyond the pale.

No manual safety. It has 2 internal safetys like almost all Glocks have.

[neeneko]

No manual safety. It has 2 internal safetys like almost all Glocks have.

So i went and found the manual to try to understand exactly what this means. So it sounds like it has mechanisms that prevent it from accidentally discharging from being dropped or such, but the trigger is always live so as long as there is a bullet in the chamber interacting with the trigger will fire it. While such mechanisms are I guess technically 'safety' mechanisms, when I hear 'safety' on a firearm, I picture the switch that prevents touching the trigger from firing.

Which is what I pictured in that comment, the idea of firearms without a safety switch being sold strike me as recklessly dangerous.

[Uninformed]

Given the known functionality, what kind of idiot leaves a round chambered.

[Dave from down under]

Given the known functionality, what kind of idiot leaves a round chambered.

The sort that doesn’t use a pair of gun safes