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Post by A Legal Lohengrin » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:18 pm

This case was actually filed and dismissed less than a week later, and is a generic pro se kook suit filed by one Charles Tisdale. Unless this either is "Henry Tisdale" or someone related to him, I don't believe we have seen this birfer before. The only semi-interesting twist is that while Obama is the only Presidential candidate captioned as a defendant, the complaint also alleges that Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are ineligible. The plaintiff also claims to be "Afro-American."Here's the District Court docket:Date Filed # Docket Text01/17/2012 1 MOTION for Leave to Proceed in forma pauperis by Charles Tisdale. (Attachments: # 1 Verified Complaint/Motion for Injunction, # 2 Memorandum in Support, # 3 Exhibits, # 4 Affidavit of Rule 65, # 5 Notice)(jtho, ) (Entered: 01/17/2012)01/23/2012 [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.2.0.pdf]2 ORDER Granting 1 Motion for Leave to Proceed in forma pauperis; Court DISMISSES the complaint with prejudice for failure to state a claim; plaintiff may file written notice of appeal within 30 days of date of entry hereof; Clerk SEND copy of this Order to all counsel of record and Mr. Tisdale; Signed by District Judge John A. Gibney, Jr on 1/20/12 (lsal) (Copy mailed: yes, as directed) (Entered: 01/23/2012)01/23/2012 [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.3.0.pdf]3 COMPLAINT against Federal Election Commission, Neil H. MacBride, Barack H. Obama, Don Palmer, Virginia State Board of Elections filed by Charles Tisdale. (Attachments: [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.3.1.pdf]# 1 Memorandum of Law, [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.3.2.pdf]# 2 exhibits, [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.3.3.pdf]# 3 affidavit of R. 65 Notice to Defendants)(lsal) (Entered: 01/23/2012)01/24/2012 4 NOTICE OF APPEAL as to [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.2.0.pdf]2 Order, by Charles Tisdale. No fee received. (tdai, ) (Entered: 01/24/2012)01/25/2012 5 Transmission of Notice of Appeal to US Court of Appeals re 4 Notice of Appeal. (All case opening forms, plus the transcript guidelines, may be obtained from the Fourth Circuit's website at [/break1]ca4.uscourts.gov]www.ca4.uscourts.gov) (lbre, ) (Entered: 01/25/2012)01/25/2012 Assembled INITIAL Electronic Record Transmitted to 4CCA re 4 Notice of Appeal (lbre, ) (Entered: 01/25/2012)01/30/2012 USCA Case Number 12-1124, Cyndi Halupa, case manager for 4 Notice of Appeal filed by Charles Tisdale. (jgra, ) (Entered: 01/30/2012)There is nothing of note in the Circuit Court yet, but the docket text is as follows:General DocketUnited States Court of Appeals for the Fourth CircuitCourt of Appeals Docket #: 12-1124 Docketed: 01/30/2012Nature of Suit: 2441 Civil Rights VotingCharles Tisdale v. Barack ObamaAppeal From: United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia at RichmondFee Status: in forma pauperisCase Type Information: 1) Civil U.S. 2) United States 3) nullOriginating Court Information: District: 0422-3 : 3:12-cv-00036-JAG Presiding Judge: John Adrian Gibney, Jr., U. S. District Court Judge Date Filed: 01/17/2012 Date Order/Judgment: Date Order/Judgment EOD: Date NOA Filed: 01/23/2012 01/23/2012 01/24/2012Prior Cases: NoneCurrent Cases: NoneCHARLES TISDALE Plaintiff - Appellant Charles TisdaleDirect: (434) 247-6675[NTC Pro Se]P.O. Box 401Richmond, VA 23219v.BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, personally and in his official capacity as President of the United States Defendant - Appellee DON PALMER, in his official capacity as Secretary of the Virginia State Board of Elections Defendant - Appellee VIRGINIA STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS Defendant - Appellee NEIL H. MACBRIDE, in his official capacity as United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia Defendant - Appellee FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION Defendant - Appellee CHARLES TISDALE Plaintiff - Appellantv.HONORABLE BARACK H. OBAMA, personally and in his official capacity as President of the United States; DON PALMER, in his official capacity as Secretary of the Virginia State Board of Elections; THE VIRGINIA STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS; NEIL H. MACBRIDE, in his official capacity as United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia; FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION Defendants - Appellees01/30/2012 1 1 pg, 7.97 KB Case docketed. Originating case number: 3:12-cv-00036-JAG. Case manager: CHalupa. Date notice of appeal filed: 01/24/2012 [12-1124] (CH)01/30/2012 2 10 pg, 110.6 KB INFORMAL BRIEFING ORDER filed. Mailed to: Charles Tisdale. Informal Opening Brief due 02/23/2012. Informal response brief, if any: 17 days after informal opening brief filed. [12-1124] (CH)01/30/2012 3 ASSEMBLED ELECTRONIC RECORD docketed. Originating case number: 3:12-cv-00036-JAG. Record in folder? Yes. Record reviewed? Yes. [12-1124] (CH)

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Post by Tomtech » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:28 pm

Check the dismissal."It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens". The first citation is United States vs Ark. :-?

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Post by bob » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:35 pm

the complaint also alleges that Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are ineligible.Correct me if I'm wrong: Paul's parents were born in Pennsylvania, as were three of his four grandparents. (The fourth was born in Germany the [/break1]wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany#German_Confederation_and_Empire]German Confederation.)
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Post by Reality Check » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:37 pm

Nice find Loh. :-bd I found an old post by Henry Tisdale copied here from Orly's blog where he said he was from Florida.
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Post by Whatever4 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:37 pm

Ron Paul has a birther! =)) =)) =))
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Post by Chilidog » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:42 pm

Ron Paul has a birther! =)) =)) =))SHHHH, now everyone will want one.

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Post by Piffle » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:47 pm

Check the dismissal.





"It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens".





The first citation is United States vs Ark. :-?Good catch, Tomtech! Yes, the dismissal order does indeed discard Minor and reach "normal" holdings based on Ark.




Edit: Adding: This Rule 12(b)(6) dismissal reaches the merits of the Minor v Hepursef line of argument. Naturally, it does not establish binding precedent (a concept which no birfer on the planet seems to understand) but, still, What about that, birfers? And so now we wait to see if the 4th Circuit will bother to affirm on that explicit basis or just chuck this P.O.S. in the round file.

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Post by Reality Check » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:51 pm

Oh Noes! :yikes: Don't tell Leo!
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Post by June bug » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:52 pm

Oh Noes! :yikes: Don't tell Leo!Sekrit Stuffs!
Justia-gate!

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:53 pm

I'd be happy to go to PACER and pull the opinion everyone is talking about and send to Jack Ryan. Could someone please provide me with a case number so I don't have to wade through the 250 Tisdales on PACER?

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Post by mimi » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:54 pm

LOL. I liked the dismissal too.

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Post by bob » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:54 pm

01/23/2012 [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.2.0.pdf]2 ORDER Granting 1 Motion for Leave to Proceed in forma pauperis; Court DISMISSES the complaint with prejudice for failure to state a claim; plaintiff may file written notice of appeal within 30 days of date of entry hereof; Clerk SEND copy of this Order to all counsel of record and Mr. Tisdale; Signed by District Judge [highlight]John A. Gibney[/highlight], Jr on 1/20/12 (lsal) (Copy mailed: yes, as directed) (Entered: 01/23/2012)[/break1]wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Gibney]Obama appointee.
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Post by Reality Check » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:56 pm

Case 3:12-cv-00036-JAG
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Post by Foggy » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:57 pm

This case seems to be movin' along smartly ... ;;)
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Post by bob » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:57 pm

Could someone please provide me with a case number so I don't have to wade through the 250 Tisdales on PACER?No. 12-00036 (E.D. Va.), as noted on [/break1]archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.2.0.pdf]the dismissal order. ;)
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:00 pm

:geezer: Yes, the dismissal order was hidden. Here is the URL in all its glory: [/break1]us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608/gov.uscourts.vaed.275608.2.0.pdf]http://ia700800.us.archive.org/27/items ... 08.2.0.pdf

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Post by Piffle » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:02 pm

This case seems to be movin' along smartly ... ;;)They don't call the E.D. of Virginia the "rocket docket" for nuttin'.

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Post by Chilidog » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:04 pm

never mind. . .

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Post by mimi » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:05 pm

Just a letter from Tisdale. Idunno if it's in with all the links above. I only looked at some of them (they're loading slow for me).Anyway... a letter.[/break1]google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:brPvzbrmE8IJ:docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/virginia/vaedce/3:2011cv00856/275068/71/0.pdf?1326491329+%22charles+tisdale%22+virginia&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgJeRnxzj8vlrnqVaOxdDWSF4X1LCStNLWCuRgJ-CKh_QN9egVTajUtvfyF85oGp0Q87nuVN9NY2KoI44xYJQAeBuhAnd-JrRHCynx5EvoA6ox2vbhEr0jc_XnMi0425Au2W98i&sig=AHIEtbSk8iBRntqhtoRXjYRHlbpPc7AyYA]https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca ... lbpPc7AyYA
Edit: oh, that's regarding his suit against Rick Perry. He must be on a birfer roll.edit again. Idunno what it relates to. LOL.
ETA: This is another letter.[/break1]google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:LrmVmwNS80wJ:docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/virginia/vaedce/3:2011cv00856/275068/75/0.pdf?ts%3D1326491365+virginia%22mel+tisdale%22&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjq_gFx-kcCcghaVcgElY5EtRoOUsrQQLj5L-Z4EyHkaeqcVX-730es0eWyDHJd84abGKYo0pe-0FfTnTHyO7ihjahboc3JJZsCj0oZeGpWYnLpU7VeL-ztv5qEMu5hOUoXR7jR&sig=AHIEtbTeX_ko0mRHN-dFLBya5Tvwyi0JJg]https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca ... 5Tvwyi0JJg

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Post by Piffle » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:17 pm

Just a letter from Tisdale. Idunno if it's in with all the links above. I only looked at some of them (they're loading slow for me).





Anyway... a letter.





ETA: This is another letter.I lurves me a loon who hears bipartisan voices. They're out there, but they're rarae aves.

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Post by Tomtech » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:11 pm

[highlight]John A. Gibney[/highlight][/break1]wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Gibney]Obama appointee.There's your grounds for appeal. The judge is illegitimate and would lose his job if Obama was frog marched out of The White House. :lol: :lol:

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Post by GreatGrey » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:45 am

Bumped, cuz peeps need to pay attention to this one.
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Post by Whatever4 » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:30 am

This case seems to be movin' along smartly ... ;;)As opposed any of Orly's cases, which proceed stupidly. :rimshot:
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Post by realist » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:14 am

Bumped, cuz peeps need to pay attention to this one.I'm trying to figure out why. It was tossed for failure to state a claim a few days after being filed.
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Post by Dr. Blue » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:54 am

There's your grounds for appeal. The judge is illegitimate and would lose his job if Obama was frog marched out of The White House. :lol: :lol:No, no, silly. Haven't you been paying attention? Obama isn't legitimate so all his actions are null and void. Since this was an Obama appointee, he isn't legitimately a judge, so his ruling is null and void as well. He's not really a judge! He's usurping the judgeship because he has no legitimate appointment! Or something. :roll:

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