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First, to Volkonski's post directly above, may I say, "Ha!"

And to one before that, has there been any talk of also expelling UK forces, or are they trying to get in front of the situation? Cuz if Iraq says, "It's cool, bro, you guys can stay," There will be another "Ha!" forthcoming.
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Slim Cognito wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:30 pm
First, to Volkonski's post directly above, may I say, "Ha!"

And to one before that, has there been any talk of also expelling UK forces, or are they trying to get in front of the situation? Cuz if Iraq says, "It's cool, bro, you guys can stay," There will be another "Ha!" forthcoming.
The Iraq parliament voted to remove all foreign troops from the country.
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Volkonski wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:01 pm
Slim Cognito wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:30 pm
First, to Volkonski's post directly above, may I say, "Ha!"

And to one before that, has there been any talk of also expelling UK forces, or are they trying to get in front of the situation? Cuz if Iraq says, "It's cool, bro, you guys can stay," There will be another "Ha!" forthcoming.
The Iraq parliament voted to remove all foreign troops from the country.
thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize that.
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Andrew deGrandpre
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Stunning.

One official tells The Post that the administration’s plan is to wait “at least a little while” on the making a decision to sanction Baghdad — to see if the Iraqis actually make good on their threat to evict American troops.

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From the story: ‘Such a step would represent a highly unusual move against a foreign ally that America has spent almost two decades and hundreds of billions of dollars supporting.’
https://t.co/DQgElq2ZFc?amp=1
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Sanctions on Iraq? Does the US intend to make ties between Iraq and Iran even stronger?

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RTH10260 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:18 am
Volkonski wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:24 am
A Shocked Iraq Reconsiders Its Relationship With the U.S.
The killing of General Suleimani, intended as a shot against Iran, could accelerate an Iranian objective: pushing the United States military out of Iraq.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/worl ... -iraq.html
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More broadly, the events raised a single, overarching question: can the United States maintain a cooperative security relationship with Iraq given the upheaval the assassination has provoked? The question was already coursing through the halls of power in Baghdad, even as the Trump administration said Friday that it was rushing new troops to the region in response to the crisis.
From other sources: those assumed 3.5K troops will be based in Kuwait and other Gulf nations. Seems that Saudi Arabia is not too keen to have the US troops too near to their oil facilities.
The Saudis believe Donnie's statement of intent "I like oil. We're keeping the oil."

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8 hours ago, 10 tweets, 8 min read

#Iraq 🇮🇶: thousands are gathering on Tahrir Square for the mass protest.

People are expected to rally all over the country today against foreign interference and the Iraqi government

#Iraq 🇮🇶: Iraqis marching against foreign interference in the southern city #Basra

#Iraq 🇮🇶: anti-government protests in the southern city #Najaf
#Iraq 🇮🇶: Tahrir Square this afternoon.

Despite the war, destruction, and power games played by outside powers the Iraqi youth continue to be determined for change
#Iraq 🇮🇶: thousands out to reject foreign interference in the city #Hillah (#Babil province)
Cool tattoo bro

#Iraq 🇮🇶: protests against foreign interference in the city of #Kut
#Iraq 🇮🇶: thousands protesting against foreign interference by both #Iran & the #US is the holy city of #Karbala

#Iraq 🇮🇶: horrible news out or #Basra. Iraqi journalist Ahmed Abdul Samad was gunned downand killed today, only hours after reporting on the protests and criticising militiamen for arresting protesters and press.
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Trump Is Handing Iran Its Biggest Strategic Objective: Iraq

https://www.thedailybeast.com/with-iraq ... ref=author
It was barely a year ago that the U.S. outmaneuvered Qassem Soleimani to install Adil Abdul- Mahdi as Iraq’s prime minister. But with Soleimani dead in a U.S. drone strike, the U.S. is treating the Iraqi government that U.S. forces created during the 2003-2011 occupation as little more than an adjunct of Iranian strategy.

As the Iranians vow that revenge for Soleimani will include the eviction of the U.S. from the Middle East (Tehran’s longtime goal), the administration is refusing even to talk with the Iraqis about leaving, dismissing out of hand the very vocal insistence of Abdul-Mahdi and the Iraqi legislature that the Americans get out.

While it’s not as if the U.S. typically respects Iraqi sovereignty, the Trump administration’s hostility toward Baghdad shows the U.S. doesn’t need Iranian interference to undermine its position in a country it once considered a cornerstone of its presence in the region.

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“This will likely be seen by Iraqi officials as a refusal to discuss withdrawal, which in turn will solidify their demands for withdrawal,” said Douglas Lute, a retired Army lieutenant general who was White House coordinator for Iraq and Afghanistan for Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. “Ending the U.S. presence and partnership in Iraq is the strategic goal most important to Iran. [It] will take the long strategic view, not obstructed by tactics, even tactics like the killing of Soleimani.”
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US dismisses Iraq request to work on a troop withdrawal plan
January 10, 2020
https://apnews.com/182bae76452d7565b0a3d840ff0369cb
Iraq’s caretaker prime minister asked Washington to work out a road map for an American troop withdrawal, but the U.S. State Department on Friday bluntly rejected the request, saying the two sides should instead talk about how to “recommit” to their partnership.

Thousands of anti-government protesters turned out in the capital and southern Iraq, many calling on both Iran and America to leave Iraq, reflecting their anger and frustration over the two rivals — both allies of Baghdad — trading blows on Iraqi soil.

The request from Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi pointed to his determination to push ahead with demands for U.S. troops to leave Iraq, stoked by the American drone strike on Jan. 3 that killed top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. In a phone call Thursday night, he told U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that recent U.S. actions were unacceptable breaches of Iraqi sovereignty and a violation of their security agreements, his office said.

He asked Pompeo to “send delegates to Iraq to prepare a mechanism” to carry out the Iraqi Parliament’s resolution on withdrawing foreign troops, according to the statement.

“The prime minister said American forces had entered Iraq and drones are flying in its airspace without permission from Iraqi authorities, and this was a violation of the bilateral agreements,” the statement added.

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See satellite images of bases in Iraq before and after Iranian missile attack
Jan. 9, 2020
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/ ... 848890001/
Two locations housing U.S. and coalition forces were struck.

Satellite images of al Assad air base in Iraq taken Jan. 8 show damage from Iranian missiles.

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Heh, notice the accuracy of the missile strikes!

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tencats wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:11 pm
US dismisses Iraq request to work on a troop withdrawal plan
January 10, 2020
https://apnews.com/182bae76452d7565b0a3d840ff0369cb
Iraq’s caretaker prime minister asked Washington to work out a road map for an American troop withdrawal, but the U.S. State Department on Friday bluntly rejected the request, saying the two sides should instead talk about how to “recommit” to their partnership.
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We need to talk. Things aren't working out. You need to find your own place.

Don't be silly. Everything is fine. Don't blow this out of proportion.

But you (insert unacceptable behavior here)! I can't ever trust you again.

Now don't you worry your pretty little head. Like I said, everything is fine. Now go get me a beer.
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Is history about to repeat itself?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2014/02/07/when-reagan-cut-and-run/
The forgotten history of when America boldly abandoned ship in the Middle East.

It would fit Trump's personality, when the going gets tough, the Trumpster runs away.

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ABBC3_SPOILER_SHOW
WSJ SCOOP: U.S. officials warned Iraq that it risks losing access to its account at the New York Fed, where international oil sale revenue is kept, if it moves to expel U.S. troops

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns- ... 1578759629
:think: Extortion?
To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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I guess Iraq will now join the newly created exchange where Iranian oil is sold in non'US denominations. Iran, Russia and China will be happy to accept a new member in their club.

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neonzx wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:38 am
ABBC3_SPOILER_SHOW
WSJ SCOOP: U.S. officials warned Iraq that it risks losing access to its account at the New York Fed, where international oil sale revenue is kept, if it moves to expel U.S. troops

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns- ... 1578759629
:think: Extortion?
Yup. What's next? Trump wants the Iraqis to spill the dirt on the Bidens, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

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neonzx wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:38 am
ABBC3_SPOILER_SHOW
WSJ SCOOP: U.S. officials warned Iraq that it risks losing access to its account at the New York Fed, where international oil sale revenue is kept, if it moves to expel U.S. troops

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns- ... 1578759629
:think: Extortion?
Imperialism.

When a country occupies another wihtout consent, that's imperialism.

When a country takes anothers assets without compensation or agreement, that's imperialism.

When a country works to destabilize another's government to get a more pliant or puppet regime, that's imperialism.

When a country feels free to use military force against a country that is not posing an immediate threat (and especially when that country is on a distant continent), that's imperialism.

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Threat.
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The Trump administration is preparing possible cuts of $250 million in military aid to Iraq, funds already approved by Congress, in the event that the government expels U.S. troops
https://t.co/uGc60lsb9V?amp=1
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:o Russia, thru Iran, will gladly come to help out.

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Tens of Thousands of Iraqis mass in Baghdad to Demand Expulsion of US Troops, Hang Trump in Effigy
Juan Cole 01/25/2020 | https://www.juancole.com/2020/01/thousa ... lsion.html
Tens of thousands of Iraqis massed in the Jadriya district of Baghdad on Friday to demand that U.S. troops leave Iraq. Mostly religious Shiites, some of whom came from the south of the country, they were responding to a call for demonstrations by Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and by heads of Shiite party-militias. Sadr heads the largest single party in parliament, with 54 seats, the Sairun. He was joined in the call for a “million-person march” by the Fath coalition (48 seats), which groups parties representing the Shiite militias who formed to fight ISIL (ISIS, Daesh) from 2014 forward.

The protesters chanted, “Get out, get out, you occupier!” and “Yes, yes to Sovereignty!”

They were angry about Trump’s assassination at Baghdad International Airport on January 3 of Iraqi commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and his Iranian colleague Gen. Qadem Soleimani, as well as about US airstrikes on December 30 on bases of the Kata’ib Hizbulah militia that al-Muhandis led, which they say left 40 dead. They underline that the base at Qa’im was used to block and kill ISIL operatives, and that the US in hitting them was apparently trying to help ISIL. (This is propaganda. The US maintains that Kata’ib Hizbullah was launching mortar attacks last fall and winter against bases where US troops were present, and killed a US contractor.)

Some of the protesters were dressed in white, the color of burial shrouds, to show their willingness to die for their cause. They were emulating Sadr’s father, Muhammad Muhammad Sadiq al-Sadr, who was threatened by Baathist dictator Saddam Hussein’s secret police in 1998 and who responded by preaching from the pulpit in a burial shroud. The secret police killed him in 1999 along with his two eldest sons as they were driving in Najaf, spraying the car with machine gun fire. The protesters were making an analogy between the assassination of the senior al-Sadr by Saddam Hussein and the assassination of Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the leader of the Kata’ib Hizbullah militia, by Donald Trump.

Read more at https://www.juancole.com/2020/01/thousa ... lsion.html
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Thousands of Iraqis gathered in Baghdad on 24 January 2020 to protest against the presence of US troops in the country, responding to a call by influential Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. (Photo by Sajad Mohamed Ali/NurPhoto via Getty Images)

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Has Trump lost Iraq to Russia over his Drone Strike on Baghdad Airport?
Juan Cole 02/07/2020 | https://www.juancole.com/2020/02/russia ... rport.html
The Iraqi establishment is interested in strengthening its military cooperation with Russia, as Baghdad seeks an alternative to the United States military after Trump bombed Baghdad airport and killed a high ranking Iraqi military commander.

Al-Bawwaba reports that that the Chief of Staff of the Iraqi Army, Lieutenant General Othman al-Ghanmi met Thursday with the Russian ambassador in Baghdad, Maksim Maksimov, to explore coordination between the Iraqi and Russian militaries.
The Iraqi military needs air support in its mop-up operations against ISIL (ISIS, Daesh) in the north of the country, which has been provided by the United States since 2014. Given the demand by powerful Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces that the US military be expelled from Iraq over the killing of their colleague, al-Mohandis, and of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani, some Iraqi leaders are alleged to be considering bringing in the Russian Aerospace Forces to replace the US Air Force. Russian fighter jets have proved devastating to fundamentalist rebels in Syria, where Russia allied with the Baath government of Bashar al-Assad.

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Former prime minister Adil Abdulmahdi, who was caretaker PM at the time of the American drone strike on Baghdad Airport, asked parliament to pass a decree obliging the executive to kick the US military out, which parliament promptly did, by a firm majority of 170 votes. Abdulmahdi, however, said that it was not his place to pursue the expulsion of the US, since he was only a caretaker prime minister.

Mohammed al-Allawi will now have to face this issue, and Saleh’s planned trip to Moscow may be part of the new government’s search for a replacement for the US Air Force.

Hassan al-Kaabi, the deputy speaker of the Iraqi parliament, called on Washington Thursday to accelerate its preparations to pull US troops out of Iraq, and to leave Iraq’s affairs to the Iraqis.

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#MAGA :sarcasm:

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tencats wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:12 am
Has Trump lost Iraq to Russia over his Drone Strike on Baghdad Airport?
Juan Cole 02/07/2020 | https://www.juancole.com/2020/02/russia ... rport.html
The Iraqi establishment is interested in strengthening its military cooperation with Russia, as Baghdad seeks an alternative to the United States military after Trump bombed Baghdad airport and killed a high ranking Iraqi military commander.

Al-Bawwaba reports that that the Chief of Staff of the Iraqi Army, Lieutenant General Othman al-Ghanmi met Thursday with the Russian ambassador in Baghdad, Maksim Maksimov, to explore coordination between the Iraqi and Russian militaries.
The Iraqi military needs air support in its mop-up operations against ISIL (ISIS, Daesh) in the north of the country, which has been provided by the United States since 2014. Given the demand by powerful Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces that the US military be expelled from Iraq over the killing of their colleague, al-Mohandis, and of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani, some Iraqi leaders are alleged to be considering bringing in the Russian Aerospace Forces to replace the US Air Force. Russian fighter jets have proved devastating to fundamentalist rebels in Syria, where Russia allied with the Baath government of Bashar al-Assad.

:snippity:

Former prime minister Adil Abdulmahdi, who was caretaker PM at the time of the American drone strike on Baghdad Airport, asked parliament to pass a decree obliging the executive to kick the US military out, which parliament promptly did, by a firm majority of 170 votes. Abdulmahdi, however, said that it was not his place to pursue the expulsion of the US, since he was only a caretaker prime minister.

Mohammed al-Allawi will now have to face this issue, and Saleh’s planned trip to Moscow may be part of the new government’s search for a replacement for the US Air Force.

Hassan al-Kaabi, the deputy speaker of the Iraqi parliament, called on Washington Thursday to accelerate its preparations to pull US troops out of Iraq, and to leave Iraq’s affairs to the Iraqis.
Well, it sounds pretty smart to me. Thanks to trump, Putin is now the most powerful man in the Middle East who doesn't live in the Middle East. When Putin tells trump to leave, we'll leave.
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Rocket Attack Kills Three U.S. Coalition Members in Iraq
Rockets struck Camp Taji where Iraqi, American and other coalition troops are based.

By Alissa J. Rubin and Eric Schmitt
March 11, 2020

BAGHDAD — A volley of rockets struck a sprawling military base north of Baghdad Wednesday evening, killing three service members, two of them Americans and one British, according to a United States official and an Iraqi military officer, both in Iraq.

The attack came less than three months after a similar rocket attack killed an American contractor in Iraq, setting off a spiral of attacks that nearly led to war between the United States and Iran.

The two Americans killed Wednesday were active-duty troops with the Army and Air Force, an American military official said. The official said that 12 members of the American-led military coalition in Iraq of various nationalities were wounded in the attack on the base, Camp Taji.

The White House and Pentagon had no immediate comment on the rocket attacks.

A senior Trump administration official said that senior national security aides were closely following the situation but declined to comment further until a more detailed assessment of what happened and who was responsible was available.

A British defense spokesman confirmed “an incident involving U.K. service personnel” but declined to comment further.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/worl ... ttack.html

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U.S. launches strikes in Iraq against Iranian-backed militias after attack that killed coalition troops

Dan Lamothe and Louisa Loveluck
March 13, 2020 at 3:01 a.m. GMT+1

The United States launched airstrikes against an Iranian-backed militia in Iraq early Friday, responding to a rocket attack on a military base that killed one British and two U.S. service members in a new round of escalating tensions.

The Pentagon said in a statement that U.S. forces hit facilities “across Iraq” linked to Kataib Hezbollah, including storage facilities that housed weapons used in attacks on American and coalition troops.

“The United States will not tolerate attacks against our people, our interests, or our allies,” Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said in the statement. “As we have demonstrated in recent months, we will take any action necessary to protect our forces in Iraq and the region.”

The aerial bombardment took place around 1:30 a.m., according to the Iraqi military. It was unclear whether any militia members were killed.

In response to a request for a White House statement, a senior administration official said that President Trump had directed U.S. forces to conduct strikes on five Kataib Hezbollah weapons storage facilities "to significantly degrade the group’s ability to carry out future attacks.”



https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... tack-iraq/

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