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Post by Dolly » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:56 pm

Saudi Arabia's brutal punishment of a dissident

Jan 14, 2015

Last Friday, as the world's attention was riveted on the terrorists who murdered French journalists for publishing cartoons and texts lampooning Islam and the Prophet Muhammad, a 30-year-old Saudi Arabian father of three was brought in shackles to the public square outside the Al Jafali mosque in the Saudi port city of Jeddah where he was flogged with 50 lashes of a cane.

The brutal beating was only a small part of the penalties heaped upon Raef Badawi for running a website inviting public discussion — and criticism — of the powerful clerics who hold sway in Saudi Arabia, enabled and empowered by the Saudi royal family.

Under the terms of his punishment, Mr. Badawi will be back for 50 lashes again this Friday and every Friday for a total of 20 weeks until he has received the full 1,000 lashes of his sentence. In addition to the flogging, Mr. Badawi has been sentenced to 10 years in prison and fined a million Saudi riyals — about $266,000.

In response, the U. S. government has called on Saudi authorities — our so-called allies in the war on terror — "to cancel this brutal punishment and to review Mr. Badawi's case and sentence." That's it. Actually, Mr. Badawi's case already has been reviewed. In 2013, he was sentenced to seven years in prison and 600 lashes, but a Saudi court reviewing the case increased the penalty to the current 10 years and 1,000 lashes. <SNIP>

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinio ... story.html

Saudi postpones blogger lashing on medical grounds: wife

Dubai (AFP) - Saudi Arabia on Friday postponed the next round of flogging for a blogger sentenced to 1,000 lashes for insulting Islam because his wounds from last week's beating have not yet healed, his wife said.

The public flogging of Raef Badawi, who is also serving a 10-year jail sentence, has sparked an international outcry and a campaign by Amnesty International and other rights groups to free him.

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Badawi received the first 50 lashes of his sentence outside a mosque in the Red Sea city of Jeddah on January 9.

He is expected to undergo a total of 20 flogging sessions until his punishment is complete, but Haidar said the second round of lashes had been postponed on Friday.

"The prison doctor saw Badawi's health does not allow his flogging today," she told AFP by telephone from Canada where she has sought asylum with her three children.

http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-postpones-f ... 30173.html

Raif Badawi

He was arrested In 2012 on a charge of insulting Islam through electronic channels and brought to court on several charges including apostasy. He was sentenced to seven years in prison and 600 lashes in 2013, then resentenced to 1000 lashes and ten years in prison plus a fine in 2014. The lashes are being carried out over 20 weeks. The first 50 were administered on January 9, 2015.[3] <SNIP>

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Post by Dolly » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:15 pm

Saudi blogger Raif Badawi’s case referred to supreme court, says his wife

King said to have stepped in amid flogging clamour as second round of 50 lashes delayed on health grounds

The wife of the Saudi blogger Raif Badawi, who was sentenced to 1,000 lashes for criticising leading clerics, says King Abdullah has referred his case to the supreme court amid an international clamour over his flogging.

Ensaf Haidar, who lives in Canada with the couple’s three children, told the BBC the decision had raised hopes that the authorities wanted to end her husband’s punishment. But there has been no official statement from the Saudi government.

The authorities had already postponed Badawi’s flogging on medical grounds after a doctor said wounds from a previous lashing had not healed. Campaigners said the move exposed the “outrageous inhumanity” of his punishment.

The 31-year-old was due to receive 50 further lashes after Friday prayers, the first 50 having been given outside al-Jafali mosque in the port city of Jeddah last week. He was sentenced last May to 10 years in prison, a fine and 1,000 lashes after criticising Saudi Arabia’s powerful clerics on his blog. <SNIP>







http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... aif-badawi



Saudis 'to review' flogging of blogger Raif Badawi

The case of a Saudi blogger sentenced to 1,000 lashes has been referred to the Supreme Court by the king's office, the BBC has learned.

Blogger Raif Badawi's wife said the referral, made before he was flogged 50 times last Friday, gave him hope that officials would end his punishment.

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In 2012, he was arrested in Jeddah and charged with "insulting Islam through electronic channels" and "going beyond the realm of obedience".

In 2013 he was cleared of apostasy, which could have carried a death sentence. <SNIP>










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Post by L00Kit » Mon May 25, 2015 1:36 pm

World's biggest hotel to open in Mecca







Four helipads will cluster around one of the largest domes in the world, like sideplates awaiting the unveiling of a momentous main course, which will be jacked up 45 storeys into the sky above the deserts of Mecca. It is the crowning feature of the holy city’s crowning glory, the superlative summit of what will be the world’s largest hotel when it opens in 2017.



With 10,000 bedrooms and 70 restaurants, plus five floors for the sole use of the Saudi royal family, the £2.3bn Abraj Kudai is an entire city of five-star luxury, catering to the increasingly high expectations of well-heeled pilgrims from the Gulf.



Modelled on a “traditional desert fortress”, seemingly filtered through the eyes of a Disneyland imagineer with classical pretensions, the steroidal scheme comprises 12 towers teetering on top of a 10-storey podium, which houses a bus station, shopping mall, food courts, conference centre and a lavishly appointed ballroom.









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Post by RTH10260 » Mon May 25, 2015 6:29 pm

I hope they consult with their neighbours in Dubai about extingishing a torch :twisted:



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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:51 am

Hajj stampede: At least 717 killed in Saudi Arabia

At least 717 people taking part in the Hajj pilgrimage have been killed in a stampede near the Islamic holy city of Mecca, officials in Saudi Arabia say.
Another 805 people were injured in the incident at Mina, which occurred as two million pilgrims were taking part in the Hajj's last major rite.
They converge on Mina to throw stones at pillars representing the devil.

Preparations for the Hajj were marred when a crane collapsed at Mecca's Grand Mosque this month, killing 109 people.

'Sudden surge'

Mina, a large valley about 5km (3 miles) from Mecca, is the location of the three Jamarat pillars and also houses more than 160,000 tents where pilgrims spend the night during the pilgrimage.



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Post by SueDB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:01 am

And the death toll continues to rise...
Over 700 reported dead
More than 700 people died and at least 800 were injured in a stampede at the Hajj pilgrimage outside the holy city of Mecca on Thursday, Saudi Arabian officials said.

Saudi Arabia's civil defense directorate said the crush happened at around 9 a.m. local time (2 a.m. ET) after there was a "sudden rise" in the number of pilgrims traveling along a major road leading to the site of a stone-throwing ritual.

This "resulted in a stampede among the pilgrims and the collapse of a large number of them," the directorate said in a statement. Emergency services were immediately dispatched and officials have prevented any more pedestrians heading to the area, it added.

In the hours after the tragedy, the death toll steadily climbed. By 3:30 p.m. local time, the number of dead stood at 717 and the number ...
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Post by Addie » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:13 am

Horrible how this keeps happening. Very sad.


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Post by SueDB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:51 am

From Alarabiya
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Al Arabiya News Channel’s correspondent in Mina, Saad Al-Matrafi, has learned that a press conference will be held right after Maghreb, or sunset, prayers where an investigation into the incident will be announced.

"Street number 204 is a road leading from the camps to the Jamarat Bridge. What happened was that a group of pilgrims on busses were allowed to descend onto the pathways that lead to the Jamarat Bridge at a time that wasn’t allocated to them,” our correspondent said.

“As they neared the area, they converged with an existing group of people who were already in the area, which pushed the area to overcapacity."

The civil defense team also said that around 4,000 members of their emergency response team, along with the Red Cross, were deployed to the scene to help lead pilgrims to safer routes away from the stampede. Rescue operations were still underway.
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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:58 am

Addie wrote:Horrible how this keeps happening. Very sad.
Inevitable to happen when the Saudis enable millions (3mio this year) to congregate for a religious duty in limited space and time.

Now if somene would re-interprete the Muslim scriptures and suggest that the pilgimage can also be done at any day of the year, not only within seven successive days at a specific date, that would even out the crowd.



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Post by Fortinbras » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:06 am

A very sad misadventure. However, some similar tragedy occurs almost every year and the Saudis haven't yet tumbled to a way to prevent such a tragedy.

For comparison, you may want to consider the highway casualties in the US on, say, New Year's Eve.



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Post by SueDB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:15 am

On top of that they get to contend with the Iranis who lost about 40 some folks. Every year the Iranis bitch about Saudi A. having Mecca/Medina within it's borders.


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Post by ZekeB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:17 am

SueDB wrote:On top of that they get to contend with the Iranis who lost about 40 some folks. Every year the Iranis bitch about Saudi A. having Mecca/Medina within it's borders.
Of course. It's good to have a piece of the tourism trade.


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Post by SueDB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:21 am

ZekeB wrote:
SueDB wrote:On top of that they get to contend with the Iranis who lost about 40 some folks. Every year the Iranis bitch about Saudi A. having Mecca/Medina within it's borders.
Of course. It's good to have a piece of the tourism trade.

The Iranis just don't have enough money to uproot the whole town of Medina and move it to Qom or another town you can't pronounce.


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Post by Foggy » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:26 am

After something like this has happened once, it's irresponsible to let it happen again.

After it's happened twice, it's intolerable and must be prevented at any cost.

But this is the 8th time. And another 800 are dead, maybe more.

Shocking. Criminal. I can but gape in horror.


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Post by ZekeB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:40 am

SueDB wrote:The Iranis just don't have enough money to uproot the whole town of Medina and move it to Qom or another town you can't pronounce.
Isn't Medina proclaimed in the Quran as being the designated place? How do you change that without a whisper from Him?


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Post by SueDB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:11 am

ZekeB wrote:
SueDB wrote:The Iranis just don't have enough money to uproot the whole town of Medina and move it to Qom or another town you can't pronounce.
Isn't Medina proclaimed in the Quran as being the designated place? How do you change that without a whisper from Him?
Heck, Him has been whispering to the Irani Ayatollahs for 1200 years or so. If you don't believe me, just ask him. ;)


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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:41 pm

ZekeB wrote:
SueDB wrote:The Iranis just don't have enough money to uproot the whole town of Medina and move it to Qom or another town you can't pronounce.
Isn't Medina proclaimed in the Quran as being the designated place? How do you change that without a whisper from Him?
I suggest one goes back in history and implements again the kind of transport they had in those days, camel back. That ought to get the numbers back to what the place was built for.



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Post by Suranis » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:36 am

This is a list of the Major deaths at the Hajj

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/09 ... .html?_r=0

Afaik people die at this in in minor incidents every year. The Saudis have no idea how to deal wuith this and as long as the money keeps flowing on any case they wont care


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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:16 am

Suranis wrote:This is a list of the Major deaths at the Hajj

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/09 ... .html?_r=0

Afaik people die at this in in minor incidents every year. The Saudis have no idea how to deal wuith this and as long as the money keeps flowing on any case they wont care
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Post by SueDB » Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:36 pm

As per most years Iran Pitches a Bitch
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran on Saturday vowed to take international legal action against Saudi Arabia's rulers over the crush of Muslim pilgrims at this year's hajj, which killed at least 769 people, including 136 Iranians, and has led to an escalation of tensions between the regional archrivals.

The pilgrims suffocated or were trampled to death Thursday when two massive crowds converged on a narrow street, in the worst disaster to occur during the annual pilgrimage in a quarter-century. Shiite Iran has accused Sunni Saudi Arabia of mismanaging the pilgrimage, which annually draws some 2 million people from 180 countries.

Iranians comprise the largest group of casualties identified so far. Iranian state TV says a former ambassador to Lebanon, as well as two Iranian state TV reporters and a prominent political analyst are among those still missing. The semi-official Fars news agency said a former ambassador to Slovenia was among the dead.

"Under international law, this incident is absolutely subject to prosecution. The Al-Saud must be responsive," Iran's State Prosecutor Ebrahim Raisi told state TV, referring to Saudi Arabia

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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:06 pm

News Agency Compiles New Tally for Stampede’s Death Toll

The crush and stampede last month outside Saudi Arabia’s holy city of Mecca killed at least 1,470 people during the hajj, a new tally showed Friday, making it the deadliest event to ever strike the annual pilgrimage.

The Associated Press count is 701 higher than Saudi Arabia’s official tally of 769 killed and 934 injured in the Sept. 24 disaster in Mina, a few miles from the holy city of Mecca. Saudi officials, who could not be reached for comment Friday, have said their tally remains accurate and have not updated their casualty toll since Sept. 26.
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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:12 am

Last month’s Hajj stampede becomes ‘deadliest in history’
22/10 00:05 CET updated at 22/10 - 11:01

Almost a month after the Hajj stampede, the Associated Press reports the death toll has passed 2,000, making it the deadliest crush in the pilgrimage’s history.

Figures released by 34 foreign governments affected by the tragedy seem to back up the tally. However, Saudi Arabia, where the incident took place, has not updated its official toll since two days after the crush, in late September.

Mali is thought to have lost at least 198 pilgrims. Volunteers have set up a crisis centre to help locate those still missing.

Kadiatou Cissoko volunteers at the centre.

“Parents come to post photos of those who are missing, just in case we have any information,” she explained. “Volunteers from Mecca have gone to the hospitals to take photos of those wounded in order to make comparisons.”
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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:31 pm

Irans PressTV gleefully quotes Russian RT:
IMF warns Saudi Arabia may go bankrupt by 2020
Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:18PM

The IMF says Saudi Arabia may run out of assets within the next five years if the government maintains its current policies.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has warned in a report that Saudi Arabia may run out of financial assets within the next five years if the government maintains its current policies.

Saudi Arabia is expected to run a budget deficit of 21.6 percent in 2015 and 19.4 percent in 2016, according the IMF’s latest regional economic outlook. The country needs to adjust spending, the IMF urged.

The IMF says the region’s outlook is currently being shaped by several key factors the most important of which include deepening regional conflicts and slumping oil prices.
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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:01 pm

Turmoil in the kingdom?
Growing princes' revolt could bring down Saudi Arabian king as sons of country's founder believe he is leading it to ruin
  • Anonymous Saudi prince claimed royal family wants to oust King Salman
  • He said royals and Islamic clerics want to replace him with younger brother, Prince Ahmed
  • They have criticised his decision to wage costly war in Yemen and 'poor handling' of Hajj disaster
By JAY AKBAR FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 18:56 GMT, 24 October 2015 | UPDATED: 22:59 GMT, 24 October 2015

A Saudi prince has claimed the several members of the royal family want to oust the country's ailing ruler King Salman, 79, and replace him with his younger brother, it has been reported.

He is reported to have said the country's influential Islamic clerics - known as the Ulama - would back the attempted coup which has been proposed by eight of the 12 sons of Saudi Arabia's founder, King Ibn Saud.

The prince supposedly said around 75 per cent of the Ulama prefer Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz, 73, to his older brother.

The prince, who has not revealed his identity for security reasons, recently published two letters calling for the Saudi royal family to oust the current leadership, the Independent reported.

He told the Independent: 'Either the King will leave Saudi Arabia... and he will be very respected inside and outside the country.
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Post by Addie » Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:10 pm

New York Times
Saudi Arabia Puts 47 to Death, Including Prominent Shiite Cleric

BAGHDAD — Saudi Arabia drew condemnation from Iran and its allies in the region on Saturday after putting to death a prominent Shiite cleric who had criticized the government’s treatment of its Shiite minority, in a mass execution of 47 men on terrorism-related charges.

Saudi officials said the mass execution, one of the largest in the kingdom in decades, was aimed at deterring those committed to violence against the state. But analysts said that the grouping of the cleric, Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, with hardened militants was a message to dissidents, and that it could exacerbate sectarian tensions across the Middle East.

The executions were the first of 2016 and followed a year in which at least 157 people were put to death, the conservative Muslim kingdom’s highest yearly total in two decades.

They coincided with increased attacks on Saudi Arabia’s Sunni monarchy by the jihadists of the Islamic State as well as with an escalating rivalry with Shiite Iran that has fueled conflicts in Syria, Yemen and elsewhere.


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