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Post by SueDB » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:55 am

:confused: :confused: Also consider that it could be possible that it costs the bank more to pursue a criminal than to pay you off and blow the whole thing off. It's more trouble than it's worth by the numbers???? :think: :think: :think:

Also "good" banks want to get you your money promptly 8-) so you keep quiet.


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Post by Maybenaut » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:18 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:Not a happy situation at all, and the bank was clearly and absolutely at fault here. I can't imagine why they would have even set up a trust account, which is what this is supposed to be, that way to begin with, particularly if you hadn't asked for checks. More concerning though, is how whoever this was got the information to begin with, since there were no checks on the account and you were having bank checks issued, which could still be an issue. With the dollar amount involved, it should have been reported to both the police and FBI, I believe, since it was a large bank fraud, did they do this? I would make sure both your bank, and USAA had filed those complaints and that you have record of it, for your own protection, and quite frankly, I would insist on them closing that account and opening a new one with the blocks in place and noted at the time. The bank is absolutely liable for fraudulent transfers, but best not to tempt fate, the paperwork can take ages.
They did close the acct and open a new one. As soon as I can I'm going to distribute the money and close the account. Abd as soon as I get the refund, I'm going to fike a report with tge FBI. I just don't want to do anything that might interfere w/ the refund.

ETA: This may not be a big enough deal for the FBI, but if it turns out that a military member did this, the military *will* prosecute as attempted larceny. Not a chance they'd let it slide.



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:58 pm

Good, some banks are really reluctant to file reports or act on something like this.


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Post by Maybenaut » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:57 pm

The saga continues... I got my money back yesterday, and today I filed a report with the FBI. Dude at the FBI said it could be a few days, but someone would get back to me. So we'll see.



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Post by mimi » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:47 pm

Somebody hacked into John Brennan's email. wikileaks published unredacted document. It includes his wife's SSN, his mom's address, his home phone, other stuff.

No doubt Snowden fans will cheer this on. :? They'll figure a way to work that out.



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Post by Addie » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:17 pm

I got one, too. I haven't tried to use it yet. Do you do anything different?
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Post by Foggy » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:40 pm

My Visa card has a chip on its shoulder. :?


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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:20 pm

mimi wrote:Somebody hacked into John Brennan's email. wikileaks published unredacted document. It includes his wife's SSN, his mom's address, his home phone, other stuff.

No doubt Snowden fans will cheer this on. :? They'll figure a way to work that out.
Teen Who Hacked CIA Director’s Email Tells How He Did It

A HACKER WHO claims to have broken into the AOL account of CIA Director John Brennan says he obtained access by posing as a Verizon worker to trick another employee into revealing the spy chief’s personal information.

Using information like the four digits of Brennan’s bank card, which Verizon easily relinquished, the hacker and his associates were able to reset the password on Brennan’s AOL account repeatedly as the spy chief fought to regain control of it.

News of the hack was first reported by the New York Post after the hacker contacted the newspaper last week. The hackers described how they were able to access sensitive government documents stored as attachments in Brennan’s personal account because the spy chief had forwarded them from his work email.

The documents they accessed included the sensitive 47-page SF-86 application that Brennan had filled out to obtain his top-secret government security clearance. Millions of SF86 applications were obtained recently by hackers who broke into networks belonging to the Office of Personnel Management. The applications, which are used by the government to conduct a background check, contain a wealth of sensitive data not only about workers seeking security clearance, but also about their friends, spouses and other family members. They also include criminal history, psychological records and information about past drug use as well as potentially sensitive information about the applicant’s interactions with foreign nationals—information that can be used against those nationals in their own country.
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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:26 pm

from the Wired link above also, too:
In addition to Brennan’s AOL account, the hackers also broke into the Comcast account of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.



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Post by SueDB » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:31 pm

Addie wrote:I got one, too. I haven't tried to use it yet. Do you do anything different?
SueDB wrote:I finally got a Visa card with a chip on it.
Nope, you need a different reader to use the chipset. I haven't seen any readers out there in the real world.
Businesses hate having to buy new Telzons and crap just to stay in business.


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Post by SueDB » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:35 pm

The chip on the card isn't new. In 2000, the casino I worked at was testing using the "Smart Card" for player tracking and "banking" functions. We found that it was too easily compromised with the readers/programming available at the time. Don't know if they have made any improvements, but I wasn't and continue not to be impressed by any of this card crap.


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Post by Somerset » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:59 pm

SueDB wrote:
Addie wrote:I got one, too. I haven't tried to use it yet. Do you do anything different?
SueDB wrote:I finally got a Visa card with a chip on it.
Nope, you need a different reader to use the chipset. I haven't seen any readers out there in the real world.
Businesses hate having to buy new Telzons and crap just to stay in business.
We've had chipped cards for the last several years, and most places read them (many are non-contact now, but also contact readers). Most accounts also have the magnetic strip disabled - You have to specifically request the bank to activate the strip for overseas travel.



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Post by Somerset » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:03 am

RTH10260 wrote:
mimi wrote:Somebody hacked into John Brennan's email. wikileaks published unredacted document. It includes his wife's SSN, his mom's address, his home phone, other stuff.

No doubt Snowden fans will cheer this on. :? They'll figure a way to work that out.
Teen Who Hacked CIA Director’s Email Tells How He Did It

A HACKER WHO claims to have broken into the AOL account of CIA Director John Brennan says he obtained access by posing as a Verizon worker to trick another employee into revealing the spy chief’s personal information.

Using information like the four digits of Brennan’s bank card, which Verizon easily relinquished, the hacker and his associates were able to reset the password on Brennan’s AOL account repeatedly as the spy chief fought to regain control of it.
I didn't realize anyone still had an AOL account, let alone kept confidential material stored there. This guy is the head of our top spy agency?



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Post by SueDB » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:04 am

Somerset wrote:
SueDB wrote:
Addie wrote:I got one, too. I haven't tried to use it yet. Do you do anything different?
Nope, you need a different reader to use the chipset. I haven't seen any readers out there in the real world.
Businesses hate having to buy new Telzons and crap just to stay in business.
We've had chipped cards for the last several years, and most places read them (many are non-contact now, but also contact readers). Most accounts also have the magnetic strip disabled - You have to specifically request the bank to activate the strip for overseas travel.
We haven't gotten that advanced over here in 'Merica...


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Post by Dr. Blue » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:54 am

SueDB wrote:
Addie wrote:I got one, too. I haven't tried to use it yet. Do you do anything different?
SueDB wrote:I finally got a Visa card with a chip on it.
Nope, you need a different reader to use the chipset. I haven't seen any readers out there in the real world.
Businesses hate having to buy new Telzons and crap just to stay in business.
Wow, really? I'm not sure where you are, but here in the not-exactly-technical-cutting-edge area of the South that I live in, pretty much all stores have upgraded to stations with chip readers. The only exception I can think of is the mom-and-pop Thai restaurant I ate at yesterday. Now whether the chip reader part is ENABLED is a different matter. I always try the chip reader first, even if it just says "swipe", and then swipe only if the chip reader doesn't work. I'll usually say something as well if it doesn't work, but it's not like the cashiers really care. The one that frustrates me the most is Home Depot. They upgraded all their point-of-sale terminals a long time ago - in fact, the entire damn country is upgrading in large part because Home Depot got hacked - and yet for about a year they've simply not enabled the hardware they upgraded to. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

The strange part is that phone-based payments (Apple pay and Android pay) stickers are showing up all over the place - they can apparently get that enabled almost immediately, but the much simpler technology of a chip-enabled terminal is causing them problems. I'm betting that Apple and Google have been better at providing "incentives" for adoption of their technologies.



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Post by Addie » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:05 am

I read this article last week, just before my new card arrived. Since it remarks on "customers who hadn’t updated their account information," does that mean I should do something with other payment accounts, as well as Netflix? I see that the three-digit security number has changed and there's the chip, but all else looks the same.

Bloomberg
Netflix Blames Chip-Based Credit Cards for U.S. Growth Shortfall ...

The introduction of the new credit and debit cards, designed to help prevent fraud, was one of several factors weighing on signups during the quarter, Hastings and Chief Financial Officer David Wells said on a video conference call.

That change interrupted the payment system used by Los Gatos, California-based Netflix and its customers, leading to what Hastings in his letter called an “inability to collect” from customers who hadn’t updated their account information. The result was more-than-expected turnover among subscribers, or “involuntary churn.”

“There was a relative surge we didn’t anticipate correctly around this conversion to more secure chip-based credit cards,” Hastings said in an interview. “It’s a minor tactical issue. We’ll be through it in a couple months. Next year everyone will have chip-based cards.”


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Post by SueDB » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:51 am

Wells Fargo took the opportunity to change my account number on the card, so I had to redo anything I had linked to it.... like Netflix etc.


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Post by SueDB » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:54 am

The expiration date changed and that needs to be updated on all account in which you use the card.


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Post by Addie » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:09 am

Right, right, I should have thought of that :oops:

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Post by SueDB » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:11 am

Addie wrote:Right, right, I should have thought of that :oops:

Thank you :bighug:
You're welcome fellow fogbowser... ;)


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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:41 pm

If You've Eaten at Wendy's, Start Worrying About Your Bank Account
Delish By Rheanna O'Neil Bellomo
February 3, 2016 12:00 PM

A massive security breach has put customers' credit and debit cards at risk.​


If you've been redeeming your dollar Frostys like crazy this month (as you should!), you might want to check your bank account. The purveyors of pulled pork fries are currently investigating a possible breach in the company's security system after customers reported fraudulent charges to their credit and debit cards.

According to cybersecurity expert Brian Krebs-who was the first to discover Target's megawatt data breach back in 2013-Wendy's is looking into "unusual activity" on said cards in some locations. "Fraudulent charges may have occurred elsewhere after the cards were legitimately used at some of our restaurants," Wendy's spokesman Bob Bertini told Krebs. Bertini also said that the burger chain has since hired a security firm to investigate.
http://news.yahoo.com/youve-eaten-wendy ... 38045.html



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Post by Volkonski » Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:21 pm

Was just informed yesterday by BoA that I will be getting a replacement card issues ASAP because of a data breach at an unnamed vendor.

Darn, have to redo all my online payment accounts. :(


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Post by kate520 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:24 pm

Dang. Reading this while Sprout is munching on his Wendy's snack. :madguy:


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Post by Dr. Blue » Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:53 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
If you've been redeeming your dollar Frostys like crazy this month (as you should!), you might want to check your bank account. The purveyors of pulled pork fries are currently investigating a possible breach in the company's security system after customers reported fraudulent charges to their credit and debit cards.

According to cybersecurity expert Brian Krebs-who was the first to discover Target's megawatt data breach back in 2013-Wendy's is looking into "unusual activity" on said cards in some locations. "Fraudulent charges may have occurred elsewhere after the cards were legitimately used at some of our restaurants," Wendy's spokesman Bob Bertini told Krebs. Bertini also said that the burger chain has since hired a security firm to investigate.
http://news.yahoo.com/youve-eaten-wendy ... 38045.html
OK, this is interesting for two reasons. First, as someone who almost never eats fast food: pulled pork fries? Really? That's a thing?

Second, and more seriously, does anyone know if Wendys has switched over to chip readers instead of magnetic stripe? I know that the plan was that after some time in the Fall (Nov 1? something like that), any merchant who hadn't converted to the more secure technology would be liable for fraud and not the bank. If that's the case (deadline didn't get delayed, and Wendys didn't upgrade) this could be very expensive for Wendys.

I'll probably did into this a bit...



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Post by Foggy » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:10 pm

They're pining for the good ol' days when people found fingers in their chili ... :daydream:


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