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Post by Volkonski » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:52 pm

A thread for my North Fork of Long Island posts. :-D


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:popcorn:


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This place has been there for years and is very popular. Turns out they are hundreds of thousands of dollars in arrears.


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Post by Volkonski » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:28 pm

Our big North Fork news so far this year is that we are not there yet. :( Flood repairs on our TX house have kept us in Texas.

So far we have missed the annual reopening of the Modern Snack Bar, Restaurant Week, several events at the Hallockville Museum Farm, the release of the new spring beers, the Riverhead Polish Hall's Steak Night and Mrs. V's cousin's Jamesport Meeting House Choir concert.


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Post by Volkonski » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:31 pm

Lobster prices on the North Fork have reached $15 to $17 per lb. :o :shock:

Prices typically peak in April but that is crazy.


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There was a blurb on the TV the other evening about there being a shortage, for some reason I didn't get, and prices were rising.


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A combination of lousy weather, international demand, and iced-over Canadian fisheries has created a shortage that has driven whole hard-shell lobster prices to as high as $15 a pound this spring, up from about $8 a pound last year.


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Volkonski wrote:
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Our big North Fork news so far this year is that we are not there yet. :( Flood repairs on our TX house have kept us in Texas.

So far we have missed the annual reopening of the Modern Snack Bar, Restaurant Week, several events at the Hallockville Museum Farm, the release of the new spring beers, the Riverhead Polish Hall's Steak Night and Mrs. V's cousin's Jamesport Meeting House Choir concert.
And you're probably jonesing for the Lamb Youvetsi at the Hellenic Snack Bar & Restaurant on Main Road in Greenpoint. A high point of my visits to the North Fork, even when I'm on a bicycle tour and really shouldn't eat that heavily with 50 miles to go.



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JohnPCapitalist wrote:
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Volkonski wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:28 pm
Our big North Fork news so far this year is that we are not there yet. :( Flood repairs on our TX house have kept us in Texas.

So far we have missed the annual reopening of the Modern Snack Bar, Restaurant Week, several events at the Hallockville Museum Farm, the release of the new spring beers, the Riverhead Polish Hall's Steak Night and Mrs. V's cousin's Jamesport Meeting House Choir concert.
And you're probably jonesing for the Lamb Youvetsi at the Hellenic Snack Bar & Restaurant on Main Road in Greenpoint. A high point of my visits to the North Fork, even when I'm on a bicycle tour and really shouldn't eat that heavily with 50 miles to go.
Oh great. Now I am hungry and an hour to go until dinner. ;)

Yes, I've eaten there. :)


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Post by Volkonski » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:59 pm

Sigh. Another North Fork event that we will miss. :(

Ms. Baczewska has performed in Jamesport before. She is amazing. One of her close friends happens to be a director of the Jamesport Meeting House Preservation Trust. :)
Internationally-recognized, Polish-American pianist Magdalena Baczewska returns to
the Jamesport Meeting House at 7:30, Saturday evening, April 28, for a solo performance of
music by Polish and French composers, including Debussy, Ravel, Paderewski and Chopin.
Tickets are $20 in advance at jamesportmeetinghouse.org or by telephone at
631-722-0008. Tickets at the door the night of the performance will be $25.


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Post by Volkonski » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:00 pm

Mexicans coming to the North Fork to make wine. (Well, Mexicans were already making the wine. The departing Martha Clara winemaker, Juan Micieli-Martinez, was born in Mexico.)

Martha Clara Vineyards sold to Mexican winemaking family

https://riverheadlocal.com/2018/04/25/m ... ng-family/
A Mexican winemaking family has purchased Martha Clara Vineyards in Riverhead.

The Rivero-González family, Mexican wine producers in Parras, Coahuila has bought the Riverhead vineyard for an undisclosed sum, the family announced in a press release.

The Rivero-González family has 15 years experience in the Mexican wine industry and is excited about this acquisition, according to the release. The purchase will help the Rivero-González family expand their interests beyond Mexico, it said.

:snippity:

The new owners have not decided whether they will retain the Martha Clara name, said marketing manager Kelly Tuthill. They plan to build on and enhance the vineyard’s legacy, she said.


"Martha Clara" was the name of the founder and now former owner's mother.


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:eek2: Does Trump know?


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Post by Volkonski » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:23 pm

We're missing out on all the new NoFo beers. :crying:


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Post by Volkonski » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:48 am

Neighbor Calls For Code Of Conduct As Beachgoers Trash Area

https://patch.com/new-york/northfork/ne ... utm_slot=1
Russell said while the idea of a code of conduct is "compelling," the issue is enforcement. When faced with a child trampling the grass or a bar fight in a farm field, police will need to address criminal behavior, the supervisor said.

"There's so much bad conduct taking place, with the explosion of tourism — and I don't want to just pick on tourists," Russell said. "But they come to the country and think there are no rules. People take liberties. A lot of it is just rudeness and complete inconsideration. I don't know how you legislate to stop that."

"It's not just tourists," Dunn said, pointing out that the young men building a dam on a Monday in April were likely not tourists. And, he said, "A lot of people like to hide behind finger pointing at people from the city. I'm from the city."

Russell added, in an email after the meeting: "The problem is that we tend to focus on just tourists. Bad manners is a year-round problem. I get complaints about litter, debris, noise, etc. caused by some local residents — fishermen, dog owners, etc. — just to name a few. The overwhelming majority are good, decent and respectful. Some aren't, and we can't give ourselves a pass just because we are local. That said, we can't legislate away bad behavior."


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Did not have time to comment on the above when I posted it. This seems to be an increasing problem for some reason. Maybe some parents these days are too busy to train their children to respect nature.


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Post by Volkonski » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:54 pm

ICE arrests stoke fear on North Fork

https://riverheadlocal.com/2018/04/27/i ... -east-end/
“This is something that has shaken the Hispanic community,” she said. “One incident will spread very widely and terrify a larger sphere and that will linger for a long time,” Gordon said.

Gordon said she had noticed recently how people are changing their habits because of the fear they feel. Either staying indoors, or not driving, the changes are evident, she said.

“Residents are even afraid of getting library cards for their children because they don’t want to expose themselves,” she said.

Advocates say that other people in the area—including Cutchogue, Greenport and Riverhead— have also been detained by ICE and that “there are reports of lCE presence near local delis, near Main Street, and also stopping people on their way to and from work
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ICE seems to be going for the low-hanging fruit instead of going after serious criminals.


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Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:14 am

Big news for Jamesport! :-D

County legislators approve purchase of Main Road, Jamesport site for $1.96M

https://riverheadlocal.com/2018/04/27/c ... for-1-96m/
An 11-acre site in Jamesport that includes “the most significant Native American archaeological site along Main Road” will be purchased by Suffolk County for $1.96 million.

:snippity:

The site was once slated for the construction of 42,000 square feet of retail, professional office and “bistro” uses in 10 mixed-use commercial buildings, under special permits approved by the Riverhead Town Board in April 2012.

Krupski sponsored the legislation authorizing the appraisal of the property, the first step in the county’s acquisition process. The funds for the purchase will be drawn from the county’s drinking water protection program, generated by a quarter-percent sales tax in Suffolk.

The site is home to Sharper’s Hill and an ancient Native American burial ground. Artifacts from the site have been dated to the transition period between the Archaic Period and the Early Woodland Period, about 3,000 years ago. The artifacts provided “important evidence of the mortuary customs of the little-understood Archaic Period inhabitants,” according to a historic survey conducted by the Town of Riverhead.
At the same time they are buying the development rights of 32 acres of farmland that adjoin this site.

Also adjoining this site is the private wildlife refuge Turtle Rescue of the Hamptons (which is located in Jamesport and not in the Hamptons :? ). The turtle rescuers no longer need to worry about development disturbing the turtles. :thumbs:

Fun fact- The North Fork is home to six species of turtle- the endangered eastern mud turtle, the painted turtle, the eastern box turtle, the diamondback terrapin, the Spotted Turtle and the official State Reptile of NY, the common snapping turtle.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/James ... 8148?hl=en


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Volkonski wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:49 pm
Did not have time to comment on the above when I posted it. This seems to be an increasing problem for some reason. Maybe some parents these days are too busy to train their children to respect nature.
A problem not isolated to Lawn Guyland, or even this time in history. Anthropologists would have nothing to do if people didn't leave a bit of their trash about.



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Volkonski wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:14 am
Big news for Jamesport! :-D

County legislators approve purchase of Main Road, Jamesport site for $1.96M

https://riverheadlocal.com/2018/04/27/c ... for-1-96m/
An 11-acre site in Jamesport that includes “the most significant Native American archaeological site along Main Road” will be purchased by Suffolk County for $1.96 million.

:snippity:
At the same time they are buying the development rights of 32 acres of farmland that adjoin this site.
:snippity:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/James ... 8148?hl=en
Hope they made due dilligence and don't end up with the remains of the archaic settlement that relates to the burial grounds ;)



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Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:13 pm

Cuomo Demands ICE 'Cease And Desist,' Threatens Legal Action

https://patch.com/new-york/easthampton/ ... gal-action
EAST HAMPTON, NY — New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo has demanded that U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement immediately "cease and desist" its ICE raids and threatened legal action.

In a letter to ICE Deputy Director and Senior Official Thomas D. Homan, Cuomo said tactics deployed by agents "have become increasingly reckless and reflect a serious disregard for the rule of law."

Cuomo also signed an executive order — modifying executive order #170 to prohibit ICE arrests in state facilities without a warrant.

The executive order prohibits state agencies and officers from inquiring about a person's immigration status unless required by law — or necessary to determine eligibility for a benefit or service, or for disclosing information to federal immigration authorities for the purpose of civil enforcement. The executive order also prohibits law enforcement officers from inquiring about immigration status unless investigating illegal criminal activity.
(Yes, I know, East Hampton is on the South Fork. :) )
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:54 pm
ICE arrests stoke fear on North Fork

https://riverheadlocal.com/2018/04/27/i ... -east-end/
“This is something that has shaken the Hispanic community,” she said. “One incident will spread very widely and terrify a larger sphere and that will linger for a long time,” Gordon said.

Gordon said she had noticed recently how people are changing their habits because of the fear they feel. Either staying indoors, or not driving, the changes are evident, she said.

“Residents are even afraid of getting library cards for their children because they don’t want to expose themselves,” she said.

Advocates say that other people in the area—including Cutchogue, Greenport and Riverhead— have also been detained by ICE and that “there are reports of lCE presence near local delis, near Main Street, and also stopping people on their way to and from work
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ICE seems to be going for the low-hanging fruit instead of going after serious criminals.


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Post by Volkonski » Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:09 pm

Oh dear!. :(

A coastal scientist sounds alarm on the inescapably dire impacts of sea level rise

https://riverheadlocal.com/2018/04/29/a ... evel-rise/
“The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation last year issued a “medium projection” of sea level rise for Long Island of 16 inches by the 2050s and a ‘’high projection” by then of 30 inches, McCallister points out. He has a master’s of science degree in coastal management from Nova Southeastern University in Florida. A Center Moriches native, he worked as a marine scientist in Florida for 12 years before returning to Long Island. He was the founder and leader of Peconic Baykeeper for 16 years before establishing Defend H20 in Sag Harbor.

“There will be monumental change along the Long Island coast,” says McAllister. “There will be a higher groundwater table and what is termed coastal inundation or, in other words, persistent flooding. The groundwater will be rising from below. And, the shoreline will be migrating. So we’d have to be spend exorbitant amounts of money to pump sand all the time—“sand folly or perpetual beach nourishment, which is economically and environmentally unsustainable,” or take the option of “armoring the coast” in versions of the Montauk mess,“and the third option, which I am advocating, is for retreat in the more vulnerable areas.”

For examples of locations of significant Long Island sea level rise necessitating retreat, he cites Dune Road in Southampton Town; Hashamomuck Cove in Southold on the North Fork; Gerard Drive in The Springs in East Hampton Town; along the bay front in Mastic Beach; “and what I refer to as the ‘front row’ of motels in downtown Montauk. These are clear examples of where relocation or coastal retreat is critical.”

“But every coastal area will be impacted—the oceanfront the worst, but even Shelter Island’s sheltered waters will rise—as well as all the harbors of Long Island,” he continues. The Fire Island barrier beach “will be especially vulnerable.’
At Hashamomuck Cove the North Fork is only about 440 feet wide. If that washes away it would cut the North Fork in two between Southold and Greenport. There would then be no road connecting Southold and Greenport via land (North Road). Main Road which runs south of Hashamomuck Cove has a bridge.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0888722 ... authuser=0

http://defendh2o.org/
In sounding this message recently via email, he included a photo of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ $8.4 million project involving the placement of “geotextile” sandbags on 3.100 feet of beach in Montauk in 2016. Since then, there have been two substantial wash-outs costing $700,000 each for repairs.
The dramatic photo of those sandbags is here-

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Post by Volkonski » Tue May 01, 2018 12:50 pm

Farm Bureau members tell Zeldin severe labor shortage jeopardizes the future of agriculture on the East End

https://riverheadlocal.com/2018/04/30/f ... -east-end/
Instead of conversation about the bureaucratic difficulties they encounter with the H2A visa program — the federal program that allows a foreign national entry to the United States for seasonal agricultural work — Farm Bureau members told Rep. Lee Zeldin they are facing a severe labor shortage that’s jeopardizing their ability to expand — and even their ability to survive.

“If you go around the room, the overhwelming concern you’d hear is the shortage of labor, the lack of labor,” L.I. Farm Bureau president Karl Novak told the congressman, opening up comments from the gathering of about 20 local ag industry representatives. “And if you listen to any of the economists talk about the economy one of the biggest threats they see to economic growth is the labor shortage,” Novak said.

“We operate in the highest cost production area in the U.S. as far as agriculture is concerned. We’ve been talking about this for 20 years — a workable, streamlined guest worker program, immigration reform and one thing that’s becoming a concern and just made headlines this week, ICE raids and immigration enforcement,” Novak said.

“There’s a tremendous shortage of labor for low-skilled jobs,” said Novak, general manager at Half Hollow Nursery in Laurel. “We need immigration reform.”
Zeldin is a Trump supporter.

The labor shortage on the North Fork isn't confined to farm workers. The high cost of living and lack of affordable housing cause young people to move away.


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The "labor shortage" will hit and seriously hurt the agriculture states that depend on labor intensive products, after which at the very least prices will rise and shortages may ensue, but the economic impact could be devastating to the areas and economies so impacted. Many ag businesses are what could charitably be called fragile, and this could well wipe many of them out and when they go, a lot of others could well follow.


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Post by Volkonski » Tue May 08, 2018 6:21 pm

Just got an email from our North Fork lawn and garden service.
To our valued customers,

We apologize for the delays due to the late starting season. We have also been short laborers for getting all the work done. Please be assured that we are working hard to make sure all the jobs; Spring Clean-ups, weeding and mulching your gardens to get them ready for the summer will be completed as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.
If you need a (physically demanding) job and don't mind living 10 to a room, the North Fork is the place for you!


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Volkonski wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:21 pm
Just got an email from our North Fork lawn and garden service.
To our valued customers,

We apologize for the delays due to the late starting season. We have also been short laborers for getting all the work done. Please be assured that we are working hard to make sure all the jobs; Spring Clean-ups, weeding and mulching your gardens to get them ready for the summer will be completed as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.
If you need a (physically demanding) job and don't mind living 10 to a room, the North Fork is the place for you!
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