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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:10 pm 
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We the Purple's case raises only one issue, standing. No claim has been litigated on the merits other than standing, and they can add nothing to the judicial discourse. Beyond that, SCOTUS has indicated what issues it wants to hear in the cases in which it granted certiorari, and none of those issues was adequately raised by We the Purple.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:22 pm 
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Color me purple not surprised.

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Reality Check wrote:
Color me purple not surprised.

http://www.examiner.com/essex-county-co ... -scotus-jj

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A novel challenge to the health care reform bill

Nicholas E. Purpura and Donald R. Laster Jr, both of Monmouth County, yesterday filed a motion for recusal in their case, Purpura et al. v. Sebelius et al. (Docket No. 11-7275). They contend that Justices Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor should not take part in any deliberation, either on whether to grant certiorari in their case, or in hearing oral argument, or in deciding their case or any motion thereon. The reason: both these Justices owe their jobs to Barack H. Obama, and both would lose their jobs should the Court uphold one of their fifteen counts against the massive health care reform bill.

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That count is Count Six, which says that Obama had no authority to sign the health care reform bill, or any bill, into law. Obama, they say, is not a natural-born citizen. The reason has to do, not with Obama's birth certificate (genuine or not), but with his father being a British colonial subject at the time.



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I didn't get the logic of how these two justices would lose their jobs since SCOTUS justices have life appointments. I didn't understand that it's because President (until ousted by the court) Obama had no authority to appoint them in the first place any more than he had authority to sign any bills or make any appointments because he was ineligible for all the reasons their branch of birtherism says he is.

Won't the case have to be decided before it can be decided that they have to recuse themselves ? Isn't there a chicken and egg problem here?

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I guess they forgot the standard for recusal set in Bush v Gore.

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I guess they forgot the standard for recusal set in Bush v Gore.


Or Ducks v. Cheney Hunting Co.

ETA: In addition to being a birfer, Laster is also a young earth creationist, judging by his comments in this article. http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com ... mment-3953. Bonus fun fact: Terry Hurlbut is a lying liar who makes things up and then tries to hide it. Compare the article above with the original version here: http://www.examiner.com/creationism-in- ... obal-flood. The bolded text in the conservative nooz are the "corrections" from the original article.

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1Lishell wrote:
verbalobe wrote:
I guess they forgot the standard for recusal set in Bush v Gore.


Or Ducks v. Cheney Hunting Co.

ETA: In addition to being a birfer, Laster is also a young earth creationist, judging by his comments in this article. http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com ... mment-3953. Bonus fun fact: Terry Hurlbut is a lying liar who makes things up and then tries to hide it. Compare the article above with the original version here: http://www.examiner.com/creationism-in- ... obal-flood. The bolded text in the conservative nooz are the "corrections" from the original article.

WOW!! What a shock that Laster is also a young-earth creationist. The hydroplate "theory" is almost as absurd as birther logic. It looks like "desert whales" has taken the place of "dinosaur skin" as THE smoking-gun evidence to completely refute the Theory of Evolution. What a maroon.


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Or Ducks v. Cheney Hunting Co.


=)) =)) Didn't that get consolidated with Innocent Lawyers with Shotguns v. Cheney Hunting Co.?

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Update to docket...

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No. 11-7275
Title:
Nicholas E. Purpura, et al., Petitioners
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Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, et al.
Docketed: November 9, 2011
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (11-2303)
Decision Date: September 29, 2011

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 31 2011 Petition for a writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due December 9, 2011)
Nov 25 2011 Request for recusal received from petitioner

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Just FYI - From the 3rd Circuit Docket...

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11/21/2011 Open Document MANDATE ISSUED., filed. (DW)

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Meaning exactly what?

[edit] I see, the 3rd Circuit has returned jurisdiction to the lower court.

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Just FYI - From the 3rd Circuit Docket...

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11/21/2011 Open Document MANDATE ISSUED., filed. (DW)

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Docket Update at SCOTUS...

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. 11-7275
Title:
Nicholas E. Purpura, et al., Petitioners
v.
Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, et al.
Docketed: November 9, 2011
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (11-2303)
Decision Date: September 29, 2011

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 31 2011 Petition for a writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due December 9, 2011)

Nov 25 2011 Request for recusal received from petitioner

Dec 9 2011 Waiver of right of respondents Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, et al. to respond filed.

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Rutro .... you all know what that means. ;)

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OK, young Mr. Leghorn in the first row?

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It means the case is already deadlisted, on account of how if the Supremes had any hankerin' to go there, they'd have asked Sebelius to file a brief ...

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Hmmm, Googling "waiver of right to respond" turns up a lot of birfer stuffs.

Mario, Berg, they've all had em.

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It means the case is already deadlisted, on account of how if the Supremes had any hankerin' to go there, they'd have asked Sebelius to file a brief ...


Correct, that also means those dastardly clerks killed another one. :twisted:

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I remember Mario went apoplectic when Dwight Sullivan wrote at CAAFLOG that Kerchner v Obama was dead listed and predicted it would be not be granted cert. :lol:

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I remember Mario went apoplectic when Dwight Sullivan wrote at CAAFLOG that Kerchner v Obama was dead listed and predicted it would be not be granted cert. :lol:


Is that a New Jersey birther thing?

Hurl-his-butt will write an article on this trumpeting this as some great "concession" on the Administration's part.

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In other news, the government waived its right to respond to Purpura and Laster’s certiorari petition. On the deadline date for a response, the government sent a terse letter (embedded below) declining to respond unless the Court asked them to.


terse. :-?

This is Laster of 'We the Purple':
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And the entry for Hurlbut on rationalwiki. Take a peek.
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Supreme Court Docket Update...

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No. 11-7275
Title:
Nicholas E. Purpura, et al., Petitioners
v.
Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, et al.
Docketed: November 9, 2011
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (11-2303)
Decision Date: September 29, 2011

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct 31 2011 Petition for a writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due December 9, 2011)

Nov 25 2011 Request for recusal received from petitioner

Dec 9 2011 Waiver of right of respondents Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, et al. to respond filed.

Dec 15 2011 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 6, 2012.

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Supreme Court Docket Update...

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No. 11-7275
Title:
Nicholas E. Purpura, et al., Petitioners
v.
Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, et al.
Docketed: November 9, 2011
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (11-2303)
Decision Date: September 29, 2011

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Dec 15 2011 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 6, 2012.


If SCOTUS requested a response, would that fact be reflected in the docket?

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If SCOTUS requested a response, would that fact be reflected in the docket?

Yes. As has been explained to birthers in various places, the lack of a response is a tell-tale sign this petition has been deadlisted.

IIRC, at CAAFLOG, Apuzzo berated anyone who said otherwise. And then he was proven wrong. Again.

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