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Fifteen arrested in suspected plot against Belgian police



Belgian prosecutors said 15 people have been arrested in a series of raids against suspected Islamist militants who prosecutors believed were plotting to murder police officers.



Prosecutors said that they had seized eight guns, police uniforms and false documents in a flat officers stormed on Thursday in the southeastern town of Verviers occupied by three men.



Two of the men in the flat were shot dead after they started shooting at police and the third was arrested. Two of those being held in the security operation were detained in France. ...



Belgium has become the subject of close scrutiny from international security services because of the high number of fighters who left the country to fight in Syria. The authorities have said they believe 300 Belgian citizens have gone to Syria to fight but it is not clear how many have returned.



A court in Antwerp is due to deliver its verdict next month on 46 people accused of recruiting fighters to travel to Syria.






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Terrorism Suspects Are Detained in Police Sweeps Across Europe



BRUSSELS — European investigators moved on a broad front Friday to sweep up suspected militants, with the police announcing that 13 Belgians had been detained in this country and two in France, a day after two other Belgians believed to be planning an attack on police officers were killed in a shootout.



In an action that the authorities said was unrelated to events in Belgium, investigators in Paris said 12 people had been detained overnight. Investigators said they might have belonged to a previously undetected cell that supported one of the gunmen in the terrorist attacks that left 17 people dead in and near Paris. And in Berlin, investigators said they had seized two suspected militants in a series of raids.



The scope and breadth of the police actions across much of Western Europe dramatized the diffuse challenges facing a region far from the battlefields of Syria, Iraq and elsewhere as it becomes a reluctant front against Islamic militancy.



The threat sometimes seems hydra-headed. European investigators and counterterrorism forces face a threat from hundreds of citizens returning from jihad in the Middle East with the skills and determination to transpose their war on the West to the cosseted boulevards and suburbs of major European centers.






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Post by Addie » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:54 pm

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European countries seek sweeping new powers to curb terrorism

BRUSSELS — Belgian leaders on Friday sought sweeping new powers to monitor and punish their citizens for involvement with terrorism, joining France in an effort to rewrite laws just hours after dozens of arrests across Europe offered dramatic evidence of the threats security officials say are facing the continent.



The raids, carried out by France, Belgium and Germany on Friday to thwart unrelated terrorist plots, came after 17 people were killed in France last week in the worst terrorist attacks in that country in decades. The violence galvanized leaders and has swiftly led to grim discussions of crackdowns in nations that have long prided themselves on their willingness to live and let live.



Belgian leaders said Friday that they would seek to expand the list of offenses for which they could strip some people of their citizenship. France has fast-tracked the convictions of those accused of hate speech, handing down years-long prison sentences within hours of the initial offense. British Prime Minister David Cameron called for eagle-eyed surveillance of social networks.



Some of the counterterrorism proposals were already being discussed before two brothers claiming al-Qaeda ties stormed the offices of a Paris satirical newspaper Jan. 7, killing 12 people and initiating three days of deadly violence. But European leaders have since moved to expand those powers with a degree of political unanimity reminiscent of the ­bipartisan U.S. passage of the USA Patriot Act after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.



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Post by Addie » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:29 pm

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Belgium Mobilizes Troops After Raid Said to Have Killed Jihadists





BRUSSELS — Beefing up security around Jewish sites, embassies and other potential terrorist targets, Belgium deployed scores of heavily armed paratroopers on Saturday in Brussels, its capital, and in the port city of Antwerp, a diamond-trading center with a large Orthodox Jewish community.



It was the first time Belgian troops had been mobilized on the streets in more than two decades. The measures followed a police raid in the east of the country on Thursday that killed two men suspected of planning what officials said was an imminent and substantial terrorist attack. ...



But Belgian officials say they have so far found no link between the attack they say was being planned from a militant hide-out in the eastern town of Verviers and the Paris attacks on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, a police patrol and a kosher supermarket.



At the American Embassy in Brussels, two Belgian soldiers from the Third Parachute Battalion, based in the southeastern town of Bastogne, said they had arrived Saturday as part of a security operation coordinated with the police. Troops also stood guard outside the Jewish Museum in Brussels, the scene of an attack last May by a French jihadist who had returned from Syria.






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Post by Volkonski » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:11 pm

Just one person with a gun can do a great deal of damage in a few minutes as long as they don't mind being caught or killed. How can we protect against this type of threat without our nations becoming police states?
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Post by TollandRCR » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:43 pm





Just one person with a gun can do a great deal of damage in a few minutes as long as they don't mind being caught or killed. How can we protect against this type of threat without our nations becoming police states?





Even a police state could not guarantee that this sort of violence does not occur. The intellectual father of Apartheid, Hendrik Verwoerd, was assassinated in 1966 as he entered the House of Assembly in Capetown. It was the second attempt on his life. Both attempts involved men judged to be mentally ill, one an English businessman and the other a mixed-race parliamentary messenger.



The cost to a society of absolutely preventing this sort of attack would be too great.
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Post by Addie » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:01 pm

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Greece arrests over Belgian 'jihadist terror plot'



Greek police have arrested several people over alleged links to a suspected terror plot in Belgium.



One of the men is alleged to have been in contact with the cell in Verviers, Belgium, where a shootout with police left two suspects dead on Thursday.



Europe is on high alert after Islamist gunmen killed 17 people in Paris. More than 20 people have been arrested in Belgium, France and Germany. ...














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Post by Addie » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:23 pm

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Isis using UK female jihadists to incite terror acts back home, say researchers



A hardcore of British women who have travelled to Syria to join Islamic State (Isis) are encouraging other women in the UK to carry out terrorist attacks back home, the Observer has learned.



The role of British female jihadists in inciting terrorism in the UK has been uncovered by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR) at King’s College London, which has identified a group of around 30 female Britons based in northern Syria.



According to monitoring of their social media accounts, a number have been acting as Isis recruiters or openly praising the Charlie Hebdo shootings, while encouraging more bloodshed, including the beheadings of westerners.



Until now, the western women joining Isis have largely been portrayed as passive – travelling to marry jihadists and bear their children away from the frontline. But as police across the UK prepare for possible attacks against them and with Europe on high alert following arrests of suspected Islamist militants in Belgium, France and Germany, the ICSR work shows that many such women are part of the escalating threat.



Melanie Smith, research fellow at the ICSR and the person in charge of the first known database of female foreign fighters, said: “British women tend to incite [attacks], they say to people that can’t move to the Islamic State: ‘Why not carry out something at home?’ That’s a common message: if you can’t leave your family behind or afford to move to Syria then carry out something.”






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Post by Foggy » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:04 am



The cost to a society of absolutely preventing this sort of attack would be too great.





Sadly, I agree.



I still support background checks and other reasonable restrictions, though.
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Post by SueDB » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:43 am

There are other "reasonable restrictions" on the other rights outlined in the Bill of Rights.

There's no reason why the 2nd should be any different.



Even those Amendments intended to ban something like the alcohol beverage ban had exceptions. It was not an absolute ban on absolute alcohol.



Also there isn't an absolute right to vote. Convicted felons in many states cannot vote... if you're blek... you know the drill here.



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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:34 am

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French police detain five Russians suspected of plotting attack



Five Russians from Chechnya have been detained in southern France on suspicion of preparing an attack, local prosecutors said on Tuesday.

The five suspects were detained on Monday in the town of Beziers near the Mediterranean coast, around 70 kilometres (40 miles) from Montpellier.

The prosecutor said certain "products" had been recovered during their searches, without giving further details.

One of those arrested lived in Beziers, and another "probably" in Montpellier, the prosecutor added. The addresses of the other three were still being sought.






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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:25 pm

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British Jihadist who faked death admits terror offences ...



Legal restrictions have been lifted to allow reporting of his guilty pleas.



Khawaja spent the first six months of last year in Syria alongside jihadist fighters, the Old Bailey heard.



Police say that his group were involved in major propaganda drives to attract other recruits and were also involved in serious violence.



In one image, Khawaja is seen holding a severed head taken out of a bag - although he masked his face to try to avoid detection.



Khawaja, who joined other Britons in the conflict, later used a social media account to announce his death during fighting.



Police believe this was an attempt to sneak back into the UK unseen.






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Post by DumbScribblyUnctious » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:48 pm



The cost to a society of absolutely preventing this sort of attack would be too great.





Also in agreement. The medicine would be more damaging than the disease.

Until there is no longer a culture or theological authority that is permissive of such radical interpretations of the Islamic faith I don't see how Islamic terrorism is really ever going to go away.

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Post by ducktape » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:12 pm

Until there is no longer a culture or theological authority that is permissive of such radical interpretations of the Islamic faith I don't see how Islamic terrorism is really ever going to go away.

Part of the issue with that, actually, is that there is no accepted theological authority in Islam -- no Pope, no "head of the X Sect," just a whole bunch of clerics, imams, thought leaders, etc., all with their own followings and who may or may not agree with each other.



Much of what we know of Islam isn't dictated by the Koran, but is from other writings, traditions and interpretations. Other than sharing the Five Pillars of Islam, Muslims can have quite different practices -- as should be obvious with the number of Muslims in the world vs the number of radical jihadists.



One thing that doesn't help at all is our ignorant Western attitude that all Muslims must be suspect and are probably at least sympathizers with terrorists. That would be like thinking the Pope is suspect because Timothy McVeigh was a Christian Dominionist.

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Until there is no longer a culture or theological authority that is permissive of such radical interpretations of the Islamic faith I don't see how Islamic terrorism is really ever going to go away.



Part of the issue with that, actually, is that there is no accepted theological authority in Islam -- no Pope, no "head of the X Sect," just a whole bunch of clerics, imams, thought leaders, etc., all with their own followings and who may or may not agree with each other.



Much of what we know of Islam isn't dictated by the Koran, but is from other writings, traditions and interpretations. Other than sharing the Five Pillars of Islam, Muslims can have quite different practices -- as should be obvious with the number of Muslims in the world vs the number of radical jihadists.





:yeah:





One thing that doesn't help at all is our ignorant Western attitude that all Muslims must be suspect and are probably at least sympathizers with terrorists. That would be like thinking the Pope is suspect because Timothy McVeigh was a Christian Dominionist.



About the "all Muslims must be suspect" part: in principle I agree on that, a majority just goes on with their daily lives, as a non-performing religious person. But than just as many are never exposed to another religion cause no foreigners cross their path, so never challenged.



But the western tolerance to other opinions is essentially an outcome from the Enlightenment Period and ingrained in our culture. Christianity as main religion concerns itself with an afterlife, and it wishes to have as many happy participants as possible. And for those that cannot be convinced, they predict an eternal bad place.



In stark contrast, Islam teaches that their religious rules apply here and now for everyone. Christians and Jews theoretically are tolerated based on some historical common roots, but they are second class citizens. As for the followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and any other religious movements (including Atheists), they are considered vermin to be eliminated if conversion is not possible. And remember: conversion is a one way trap door or lethal consequences await, once a Muslim always a Muslim.



IMHO the western communities are being much too political correct and appeasing to local Muslims that tend to ignore that they are living in a secular society and thrive to overthrow the local ways of hundreds of years. This seems especially to apply to the many Muslim immigrants from many corners of the world. Most of these come as refugees, displaced persons of the wars in their countries of origin. Also too many looking for work under the disguise of being asylum seekers. They have no understanding of the concept of being guest in their new countries, and do not adjust to the traditions here. They try to force their unwelcome religious ways rather than performing quietly within their own circles. It doesn't help that a number of hate speech and anti-rassism laws, and variants protecting minorities, are used to suppress pointed free speech highlighting some of the darker sides (as seen in the western world) of Islam.



[warning]Just this much for now. I guess an extended discussion of Islam would take up much space in the Religion forum area. At the moment I am not willing to go deeper into the matter.[/warning]

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Post by Addie » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:33 am

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Ceuta: Suspected jihadists held in Spanish territory



Four suspected members of an Islamist militant network have been arrested in the Spanish territory of Ceuta, which borders Morocco.



Spain's interior ministry said police had targeted two properties in dawn raids.



It added that officers were investigating whether the suspects were planning attacks in Spain.



Spanish police have arrested about 50 suspected jihadists over the past year, the ministry said earlier this month.



Spanish Interior Minister Jorge Fernandez Diaz said the men were two pairs of brothers who were "highly radicalised and highly trained", the Reuters news agency reported.






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Post by Addie » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:42 am

Unclear as yet if it's part of a "plot" but this happened.



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French soldiers by Jewish community center attacked





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An attacker with a knife hidden in his bag attacked three soldiers on an anti-terror patrol in front of a Jewish community center in southern France on Tuesday, two police officials said.



Sarah Baron, a police union official in the city of Nice, said the attacker was detained after the attack near the Galeries Lafayette department store. Nice Mayor Christian Estrosi said the attacker had an identity card with the name Moussa Coulibaly.



The surname, which is relatively common for families of Malian descent, is the same as that of the man who seized hostages in a kosher supermarket in Paris and gunned down a policewoman last month.



Another police official said the attacker pulled a knife at least 20 centimeters (8 inches) long out of a bag and set upon one of the soldiers, injuring him in the chin. He then swiped two other soldiers — one in the cheek, the other in the forearm — before being apprehended by riot police stationed near the building, which houses the city's Jewish community center. ...



Mayor Estrosi told BFM television that a possible accomplice had been detained.










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Post by TexasFilly » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:15 pm

Geez!
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Post by Addie » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:55 pm

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Three French soldiers attacked outside Jewish centre



Nice (France) (AFP) - Three soldiers on patrol outside a Jewish community centre on the French Riviera were attacked on Tuesday by a man who was only last week expelled from Turkey, a security source said. ...



A security source involved in the investigation told AFP the man was expelled from Turkey last week and had been interrogated by French intelligence services upon his return. ...



Anti-terrorist prosecutors in Paris have taken charge of the investigation, a judicial source told AFP.



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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:09 pm

Without link: a news report mentions a second man apprehended by police nearby. Seems he may be an acomplice, seems to also have a criminal background.

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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:50 pm

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Copenhagen free speech debate shooting: One dead



Gunmen killed one person and injured three police officers during a free speech debate in Copenhagen attended by a controversial Swedish cartoonist, officials said.



The French ambassador was also present at the debate.



Reports say up to 40 shots were fired during the attack and a manhunt has been launched.



Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks has faced death threats after drawing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.



He was not harmed during the attack.






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Post by Roboe » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:27 pm

It's not yet known if the civilian was one of the attackers or somone getting caught in the crossfire. The police presence at the scene was mainly PET (Police intelligence), who had also searched people entering the room where the event took place. There's a bit of confusion as to whether or not the assailants had been shouting in Danish or Arabic.

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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:47 pm

There's audio here. You don't hear the shouting, but the sound of the shots is chilling.
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Post by Roboe » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:57 pm

I should probably add that by pure coincidence, I was in a meeting yesterday in our parochial church council, where we discussed having a theme day on religious fundamentalism. A shame it won't be held until September, because it suddenly became quite relevant...

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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:20 pm

It's a blessing the shots came from outside and so many people escaped harm.
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