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Post by Kendra » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:49 pm

Someone burning documents prior to Mueller time? :sarcasm:



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Post by Kendra » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:51 pm


Fire at Trump Tower is out. Very confined (well built building). Firemen (and women) did a great job. THANK YOU!



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Post by Lani » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:54 pm

"Well built" as in 2 fires in 3 months?


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Post by Kendra » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:03 pm

Lani wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:54 pm
"Well built" as in 2 fires in 3 months?
Well, more than one occupant might want to be burning documents...



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Post by Kendra » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:30 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/US/firefighters-b ... d=54311061
Flames and smoke were spotted billowing and debris raining down from the 50th floor of the Trump Tower Saturday evening before firefighters were able to put it out, according to fire and emergency officials.

FDNY firefighters were battling the four-alarm blaze at the 58-story Fifth Avenue Trump Tower skyscraper at 57th Street in Midtown Manhattan, fire officials confirmed.

Debris could be seen raining down from the skyscraper.



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Post by GreatGrey » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:31 pm

Amazing how resilient that Chinese steel is.


I am not "someone upthread".
Trump needs to be smashed into some kind of inedible orange pâté.

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Post by Kendra » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:33 pm

GreatGrey wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:31 pm
Amazing how resilient that Chinese steel is.
:lol: :lol:



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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:15 pm

WABC
Police sources: 1 dead after fire breaks out at Trump Tower

MIDTOWN, Manhattan (WABC) -- One person is dead after a fire broke out at Trump Tower in Midtown, police sources say.

The four-alarm fire broke out on the 50th floor just after 5:30 p.m. Saturday. The fire is currently under control.

Three firefighters also suffered minor injuries. ...

There were no evacuations inside the building, but some people self-evacuated.

5th Avenue is closed between East 55th Street and East 57th Street. West 56th Street is closed from 5th Avenue to Madison Avenue.

The cause of the fire remains under investigation.


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Post by ZekeB » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:21 pm

He, himself, the great builder, wired that floor.


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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:36 pm

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Fire at Trump Tower leaves 1 dead, 4 injured, says FDNY



(CNN) One person was killed and four fiefighters were injured in a four-alarm fire at Trump Tower on Saturday, according to the New York City Fire Department.

The person who died was a resident of the building's 50th floor who had been taken to the hospital in critical condition, department spokeswoman Angelica Conroy told CNN.

The fire was contained to the 50th floor of the tower, located on Fifth Avenue in New York.

The four firefighters injured had non-life threatening injuries, Conroy said.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:57 pm

Paul Manafort is on the 43rd floor. Perhaps he was storing more boxes of files on the 50th floor.



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Post by AndyinPA » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:42 pm

Kendra wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:49 pm
Someone burning documents prior to Mueller time? :sarcasm:
My first thought, too. I'm not so sure I was thinking sarcastically.



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Post by TexasFilly » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:00 pm

I hope the deceased is not a Russian. Very sad someone lost their life. The entire apartment going up is on its face suspicious.


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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:05 pm

New York Daily News
Trump Tower blaze kills man on floor without sprinklers

A raging inferno erupted inside Trump Tower Saturday night, killing a 67-year-old man who lived on a floor without sprinklers, authorities said.

Todd Brassner was found unconscious on the 50th floor of the posh Fifth Ave. high-rise, authorities said.

He was declared dead at Mt. Sinai-West Hospital. ...

Before officials revealed the fatality, President Trump fired off a tone-deaf tweet crowing about the building’s construction.

“Fire at Trump Tower is out. Very confined (well built building). Firemen (and women) did a great job. THANK YOU!”

By 10:30 p.m., Trump had made no mention of the death at his building.


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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:14 pm

New York Times - 1998
Last year, a Council-sponsored bill calling for sprinkler systems in high-rise apartment buildings died quietly because it was opposed by the Giuliani administration, ignored by the Council leadership and lobbied against by the real estate industry, whose ability to make sizable campaign contributions has historically made it a force to reckon with in city politics.

In 1994, the Fire Department drafted a proposal to require sprinklers in new multiple-dwelling buildings. But that plan, which was also opposed by the real estate industry, was eventually dropped by the Giuliani administration. ...

Archie Spigner, the chairman of the City Council's Housing and Buildings Committee, said yesterday that he received a telephone call this week from Donald J. Trump, the real estate developer, who expressed concern about the high cost of installation and other problems that he had with sprinklers. Mr. Trump confirmed yesterday that he had ''received and placed calls'' from and to various city officials.

It is that kind of easy access to city leaders by the opposition that proponents of sprinkler legislation fear. ''It is a hard battle, because real estate interests make political contributions,'' said John A. Viniello, the president of the National Fire Sprinkler Association, which has also made contributions and whose members stand to profit from laws requiring sprinklers. ''If they are financially supporting the City Council and the Mayor, it is difficult for politicians to take action that is unpopular with them.'' ...

Steven Spinola, the president of the Real Estate Board of New York, an industry group, said yesterday that most fatal fires occur in two- and three-family homes, not in high-rise buildings that have fire-resistant construction. He and Mr. Trump said that in addition to being costly -- up to $4 per square foot to equip an entire building, Mr. Spinola said -- sprinklers were also prone to vandalism and mishaps, and widely disliked by tenants for esthetic reasons.


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Post by Skip Intro » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:37 pm

The Trump fire alarm system.



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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:29 am

Towering Inferno 1974




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Post by Addie » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:32 am

CBS News
Trump Tower fire is second 2018 blaze in sprinkler-free residential tower

The fire on the 50th floor New York City's Trump Tower that left 67-year-old Todd Brassner dead and six firefighters injured was the second fire in the building in 2018. President Trump's centerpiece Manhattan skyscraper opened in 1984, but does not have sprinklers on its residential floors, a measure required in new buildings since 1999. President Trump, then a private citizen and property developer, lobbied to try and prevent the mandate at the time.

New York City in 1999 became last big city in the nation to require sprinklers, according to the New York Daily News. Under the 1999 legislation, buildings constructed before then were only required to have sprinklers if they underwent gut renovations.

According to The New York Times, Mr. Trump was one of the developers in the late 1990s who lobbied against sprinklers in buildings. He then recanted once the legislation passed with grandfathering provisions that meant existing buildings did not need to install them, saying that he understood they made residents "feel safer." FDNY Commissioner Daniel Nigro said on Saturday that there is extra fire protection at Trump Tower when Mr. Trump is there.

Then-New York city mayor and now staunch Trump ally Rudy Giuliani signed the bill requiring sprinklers into force on March 24, 1999, having opposed it when it was first proposed in 1997. The legislation was spurred on by a major fire in a so-called "fireproof" apartment block with no sprinklers on New York's Upper West Side the previous December, and another in a Brooklyn housing project the same month in which hallway sprinklers failed. Survivors wanted all buildings to have sprinklers, but the legislation that was passed was not retrospective, much to the delight of existing property owners who cited cost as a major reason not to be compelled to retrofit their buildings. At the time the legislation was being discussed, Mr. Trump had just started construction on a 72-story tower near the United Nations, and he subsequently said he would install sprinklers there at a cost of $3 million.


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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:01 am

Addie wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:32 am
CBS News
Trump Tower fire is second 2018 blaze in sprinkler-free residential tower
:snippity:
How much more are the fire insurance premiums for a highrise without a sprinkler system, especially where firefighters have difficulty to reach the target?



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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:01 am

RTH10260 wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:01 am
Addie wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:32 am
CBS News
Trump Tower fire is second 2018 blaze in sprinkler-free residential tower
:snippity:
How much more are the fire insurance premiums for a highrise without a sprinkler system, especially where firefighters have difficulty to reach the target? Don't tenants need a liability insurance to cover costs of the building owner?



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Post by Whip » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:03 am

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:57 pm
Paul Manafort is on the 43rd floor. Perhaps he was storing more boxes of files on the 50th floor.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=u5GSt_1523140437



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Post by Kendra » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:27 am

No thoughts and prayers yet on Twitter...



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Post by Whip » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:55 am

he must be in Jersey as an Apache helicopter flew over yesterday.



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Post by Kendra » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:04 am

:?:

Aren't things like fire drills and escape plans supposed to be required? Or a way to notify residents on what to do? Not being intimately familiar with high rise living, so just curious.



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