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Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:25 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
https://abcnews.go.com/US/bernie-madoff ... d=64542412
Bernie Madoff applies for clemency, asks for commutation of his 150-year sentence

Madoff filed a petition for clemency requesting a "commutation of sentence" sometime before July 1, 2019, according to Justice Department records. The current status is "pending."

Clemency petitions are reviewed by the Justice Department and the president.

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:48 am
by AndyinPA
I'm not so sure they are "reviewed" by the Justice Department these days. I thought twitler bypassed them on some of his pardons. Of course, he's got Barr there now. Who's to tell twitler he can't pardon or offer clemency to someone? I know how things are supposed to work, but these days things don't work the way they used to.

I wonder if twitler knew Madoff personally.

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:16 am
by noblepa
Madoff just needs to say some nice things about Trump and he's almost guaranteed a full pardon.

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:44 am
by ZekeB
noblepa wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:16 am
Madoff just needs to say some nice things about Trump and he's almost guaranteed a full pardon.
And campaign contributions. Shirley he has a considerable amount stashed in foreign banks.

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:56 am
by TexasFilly
Of course he's seeking "clemency" because why not?

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:10 pm
by Reeeko
TexasFilly wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:56 am
Of course he's seeking "clemency" because why not?
If I was Madoff, I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer the safety of a jail cell where my marks can't reach me...

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:19 pm
by Sterngard Friegen
Trump could show some empathy and knock a couple of years off Madoff's sentence.

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:21 pm
by Somerset
TexasFilly wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:56 am
Of course he's seeking "clemency" because why not?
Pretty much. It can't hurt to ask, and if any president might be bought by money and flattery, it's this one.

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:23 pm
by TexasFilly
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:19 pm
Trump could show some empathy and knock a couple of years off Madoff's sentence.
He's Trump's kinda guy. If only Bernie had thought of creating a fake "University."

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:15 pm
by ObjectiveDoubter
TexasFilly wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:23 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:19 pm
Trump could show some empathy and knock a couple of years off Madoff's sentence.
He's Trump's kinda guy. If only Bernie had thought of creating a fake "University."
It's remarkably similar: Trump manages to find a new low almost daily. Now Madoff, equally amoral, is trying for the record, driven by shameless chutzpah. As a friend to too many who were victimized by Madoff (through Madoff's Calif. gonif connection, Stanley Chais), I find myself to be humorless about this.

Re: Bernie Madoff seeks clemency

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:28 pm
by Northland10
AndyinPA wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:48 am
I'm not so sure they are "reviewed" by the Justice Department these days. I thought twitler bypassed them on some of his pardons. Of course, he's got Barr there now. Who's to tell twitler he can't pardon or offer clemency to someone? I know how things are supposed to work, but these days things don't work the way they used to.

I wonder if twitler knew Madoff personally.
A President bypassing his government with pardons and clemency is not a new thing. Lincoln used to drive Stanton nuts doing this. However, Lincoln's reasons were usually based on an oversized heart and empathy for the families. The Twitler, not so much.