Non-breaking Fire: Updates, Related Articles

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A firefighter assigned to the Woolsey Fire was gravely injured after he was run over by a vehicle while sleeping in a Ventura County field late Wednesday, the Ventura County Star reported.

The firefighter, a man in his 40s, is from South Kitsap Fire and Rescue in Washington state, according to the Seattle Times and NBC. His injuries are not life-threatening, the Associated Press reported. He was airlifted to Los Robles Regional Medical Center in Thousand Oaks, according to NBC.

A 50-year-old Los Angeles man was driving a truck on private property when he ran over the firefighter, causing injuries to his chest and left side of his body, the California Highway Patrol told the Ventura County Star.

The crash wasn’t a hit-and-run and the driver wasn’t arrested, ABC 7 reported.
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/stat ... 10865.html

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NMgirl wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:37 pm
arock wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:02 pm
:snippity:

AirNow has current, forecast (today, tomorrow), and archive readings. https://gispub.epa.gov/airnow/

I looked at the archive for the Bay Area, comparing Nov 10 to today, and then the forecast for tomorrow, and there's improvement.

The Camp Fire is not growing very much right now; if the trend continues, you'll be ok by next week.
:bighug: Thanks for the info and links.
I was wrong: while the Camp Fire may not be growing very much, the smoke is not clearing. Chances of rain, maybe on Wednesday, but polluted skies expected through Tuesday.

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Shelby Grad Verified account @shelbygrad

Even by the disaster standard of California, this map is staggering. To see a whole city wiped out,
with each destroyed building noted, offers something all those horrible photos cannot. Disturbing
@priyakkumar @gaufre
visualization http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-c ... ction-map/

Shelby Grad Verified account @shelbygrad

...And it happened right away. Paradise was gone in hours. The #CampFire kept spreading over the
next week, but the real damage was done immediately.


https://twitter.com/shelbygrad/ status/1063231065186164737

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Volkonski wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:26 pm
NBC News

Verified account

@NBCNews
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JUST IN: President Trump to travel to California on Saturday "to meet with individuals impacted by the wildfires," White House says
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:twisted: please make sure he gets flame retardant paper towels....

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From this evening's community meeting:
Dave Toussaint @engineco16

#CampFire Update 11/15/2018

- 63 fatalities, 53 identified, 631 missing
- 11,862 structures destroyed (residential/commercial combined) 270 damaged, 9700 single family homes included in that total.
- 141,000+ acres burned
- 40% containment

- Possible 2nd origin of the fire

6:30 PM - Nov 15, 2018
https://twitter.com/engineco16/ status/1063257857456390144




Also, an armed looter was found in the Yankee Hill area, within the evacuation area. Pursuit, spike strips. Looter is dead as is a Sutter County K9 officer.
Joe Vazquez @joenewsman

Procession for a fallen officer. Law enforcement inside the #CampFire zone pay respects to a K9 from the Sutter Co. Sheriff’s Dept. killed in the line of duty. After getting wounded in the crossfire of an officer involved shooting, the K9 was killed by the suspect’s pit bull.
https://twitter.com/ joenewsman/status/1063256904216928256
(Short video of procession not included here.)

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Paul Doherty @pjdohertygis

This #CampFirePets map is helping unite families with their pets (and vice versa) - please share with those in the Paradise / #CampFire area. Great work by @amber_brooks_ & friends. Link to interactive map >> http://arcg.is/jenrn

6:03 PM - Nov 15, 2018 · Boulder, CO
Screenshot of Camp Fire Pets GIS page:
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https://twitter.com/pjdohertygis/ status/1063251153817755648
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Fire Watch weather for the Sierra foothills, including the Paradise area (map as of 11 p.m. PST), expected to worsen over weekend.


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Joseph Elfelt @MappingSupport

Last hotspot map I plan to post for #WoolseyFire. Friday 11/16 100,235 acres per 8:55pm infrared flight yesterday + analysis by fire staff. Stay tuned for my interactive map with USGS data showing risk of debris flow. Open #GISsurfer map: https://bit.ly/2AZ7I7d #GeoSpatial

4:58 AM - Nov 16, 2018


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:brickwallsmall:


Trump blames forest poor management on the California fires, says if forest areas had been raked out, "you wouldn't have the fires." (via Fox)

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A couple of driving through the fire videos, both fathers with one or two young children, a situation that probably isn't covered in basic parenting classes:



Fox2 Dad stays calm, sings to young daughter during harrowing Camp Fire evacuation







Very long video:


'

City of Redding GIS @ReddingGIS

#CampFire Butte County GIS just recently released a comprehensive set of authoritative maps for the Camp Fire. Maps include fire perimeter, evacuation zones, damaged structures, missing pets, and more. http://arcg.is/1jzmyO

9:33 AM - Nov 16, 2018
http://buttecountygis.maps.arcgis.com/a ... 0c640a30b3

https://twitter.com/ReddingGIS/ status/1063485173818318848

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Deer Creek Resources @DeerCreekGIS

We used LANDSAT imagery to create these infrared visualizations of the initial push of the #campfire.
@CAL_FIRE @usfs_psw @R5_Fire_News
9:45 AM - 15 Nov 2018









https://twitter.com/DeerCreekGIS/ status/1063125888269570051

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I flew into San Francisco this afternoon. Due to the intense smoke haze, the city has an eerily apocalyptic atmosphere. Schools are closed, even some small shops in our neighborhood closed for the day. There aren’t a lot of people on the streets and I haven’t seen any kids outside at all (not that there are ever a lot of kids around San Francisco anyway).

We brought masks with us and had ordered a couple of HEPA air cleaners, which were on our doorstep when we arrived, thank god. We stopped and bought groceries on the way home from SFO, and we haven’t left the house. It’s depressing as hell.

Last I checked the index was 238, no improvement in sight. :cantlook:

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From tonight's community meeting.

146,000 acres. 50% contained. 5,632 personnel.

Additional 50 fire engines for tomorrow night's critical fire weather.
Fire most active on NE and E sides, in Feather River Canyon and Big Bend area.
Along south and east sides, working 3-500 feet in from containment lines to make sure there's no slop over.

==
47,200 evacuated
1,164 in shelters

==
Single family damaged 216
Single family destroyed 9,700

Multi-unit residential damaged 16
Multi-unit residential destroyed 144

Mix residential/commercial damaged 0
Mix residential/commercial destroyed 7

Commercial damaged 64
Commercial destroyed 336

Other minor structures damaged 69
Other minor structures destroyed 2,076

Total damaged 368
Total destroyed 12,263

==

11 people have been taken to UC Davis Burn Center.
1 released
1 critical
1 serious
8 fair
burns over 20-50% of body

==

Law enforcement talked to 100 individuals in evacuation area in last 24 hours; all had valid reasons to be there.

==
All vehicles blocking roads or along roads have been towed, 179 total.
All but 6 have been identified, and they expect to ID most of those 6.
90% have total burn damage.
Those identified can be released immediately.

==

Since last night, 8 more human remains have been located and collected.
Total is now 71; 58 of those with tentative ID; 2 more positive ID (total to 6)
All 8 located today in structures, 7 in Paradise, 1 in Magalia

==
The list of missing/unaccounted for should be considered dynamic/work-in-progress/raw data.
329 have been accounted for, an increase of 102 from yesterday.
List now totals 1,011 which is an increase of 380. Sheriff stressed that people should not assume this will be total number of fatalities.

Source of data:
1. people calling special phone numbers set up to report missing people
2. email
3. information from first chaotic day when dispatchers got as much info entered into computer aided dispatch system which they are now going through to gather names (a long process)

Some names are duplicates or triplicates as different spellings are given, and staff is cross-checking.

Staffing has been increased.

Quite a few questions about this list, I had difficulty hearing all of it, but there was some tension from those asking questions.

==
Coroner in Sacramento is handling identification.
Of 63 bodies/remains there, 39 have been examined.
18 DNA samples
Of 6 positive ID, 4 by fingerprints, 2 by teeth

==

Mutual Aid Law Enforcement.
200 officers immediately assigned to Butte County and nearby areas.
CHP, other state, and federal agencies assisting, plus National Guard

==
Mass Fatality Mutual Aid System
600 people, largest deployment of search and rescue in CA

400 SAR, including 24 K9s
112 National Guard
N (couldn't hear) anthropologists (determine whether animal or human bone)
23 missing persons experts
N forensic odontologists
15 pathologists

==
Drone teams working with permission of Cal Fire, from Menlo Park PD, Alameda and Contra Costa SO, Union City PD.
Have covered 1,500 acres, taken 10,000 photos which will be shared with search teams in field and used in GIS (if you looked at the Redding/Carr Fire GIS maps with property lines, etc., plus before/after, that's what will happen)

==
ANDE Rapid DNA from Longmont, CO, providing services free of charge. https://www.ande.com/
"DNA in a Box"
They are working with coroner in Sacramento and with family members.
Need parents and children of missing to go to Family Assistance Center (central place for government agencies, insurance, etc., to meet with evacuated residents) for swabs (if they go elsewhere, results will take much longer).
Swab goes in a box, processed by machine in 2 hours, entered in database.

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A bit off-topic (but maybe these places will burn some day):

https://www.fs.fed.us/geology/resources ... index.html

A Story Map of Geologic Features of Our National Forests. Map with marked locations, click to go to photos and text describing feature(s). Most are in Alaska, the West, and the western edge of the Great Plains, but there are some in Minnesota, Arkansas, Midwest, Florida, North Carolina.

It's a nice change from hazy skies and burned landscapes.


And, because it's been a while and I need a smile, here's a Super Scooper video from 2013: truck fire on the Trans-Labrador Highway. It could be any air tanker, and there's no scooping.


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NMgirl wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:24 pm
I flew into San Francisco this afternoon. Due to the intense smoke haze, the city has an eerily apocalyptic atmosphere. Schools are closed, even some small shops in our neighborhood closed for the day. There aren’t a lot of people on the streets and I haven’t seen any kids outside at all (not that there are ever a lot of kids around San Francisco anyway).

We brought masks with us and had ordered a couple of HEPA air cleaners, which were on our doorstep when we arrived, thank god. We stopped and bought groceries on the way home from SFO, and we haven’t left the house. It’s depressing as hell.

Last I checked the index was 238, no improvement in sight. :cantlook:
The smoke is awful, I know what it was like in Western WA last two summers with what came from Canada and Eastern WA, which was really nasty; but nothing to resort to wearing masks. Watch what that haze does to the sun in the morning, we had these eerie blood orange sunrises.

Still, we also still have beds and blankets and real toilets. I :crying: watching a CNN reporter talking to a young boy and his grandmother camped at the WalMart parking lot and was asked what he missed most. Answer: his bed, and a real toilet :crying:

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I spoke with my sister yesterday. She is east of Sacramento in El Dorado Hills and says that the air quality has been horrible there. She is still walking her dogs because she feels it is necessary for their mental health but says she doesn't see many others doing so. She has been following the situation in Paradise very closely. She does not yet know the fate of her small property there and may drive up if the area is open after Thanksgiving since she will have the moral support of my niece and nephew-in-law then.

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HeatherGray wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:47 am
I spoke with my sister yesterday. She is east of Sacramento in El Dorado Hills and says that the air quality has been horrible there. She is still walking her dogs because she feels it is necessary for their mental health but says she doesn't see many others doing so. She has been following the situation in Paradise very closely. She does not yet know the fate of her small property there and may drive up if the area is open after Thanksgiving since she will have the moral support of my niece and nephew-in-law then.
If your sister is following the situation closely, then she probably knows where to find evacuation information (if not, https://www.buttecounty.net/). It can't hurt to have something like a property tax bill as proof of "residence."

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Last daily community meeting tonight. They will use press releases or, if needed, schedule a press conference in the future.

149,000 acres. 55% contained. 5,624 personnel.

46,031 evacuated
983 in shelters

Total damaged 470
Total destroyed 12,794 (single-family homes destroyed 9,700)

NE and E area of fire is most active.
50 extra fire engines for structure protection in Berry Creek area tonight and tomorrow because of critical fire weather.

Red Flag tonight and Sunday. 50 mph on ridges. Visibility should improve.

Sheriff's report:
A lot of changes in evacuation areas, from orders to warnings, meaning that residents can move back in, an indication of progress in restoring infrastructure, removing debris and hazards, conducting damage surveys, and searching for remains

If you find remains, don't disturb, call sheriff. Be respectful, don't take photos (and esp don't post on social media -- and yeah, it happened the first day)

List of unaccounted for persons: raw data. Still going through call logs.
714 accounted for, +385 today
1,276 unaccounted for, +265 today (increase mostly from call logs)

Some people aren't looking at list because they don't want to see friends' names, so they don't know their name is on list

5 additional remains found today. 76 total. 63 tentative ID, 6 positive ID (no change on positive ID)
4 were found in Paradise structures, 1 outside in Concow area

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If you live in fire country, please read this article.
Lessons from Camp Fire: Staying alive in California fire country

Even as smoke chokes the sky and shrouds the sun, millions of Bay Area and other California residents remain unprepared for the next inferno.

More than half of us still haven’t signed up for official evacuation alerts. We don’t practice our escape routes – or perhaps there aren’t any. Parked cars crowd narrow streets. Too few of us have “to go” kits. We trust fallible WiFi, cable TV and cell phones for life-saving information.

“If you’re not paying attention, you’re really screwed,” said geographer Gregory Simon of the University of Colorado Denver, who studies the impact of fire in established communities, like the Oakland Hills. In extreme conditions, he said, “fire moves several football fields a minute.”

Satellite images reveal the fury of the Camp Fire. Wind-blown flames raced 12 miles and hit Paradise within four hours of ignition, just as residents were just waking up. Flying embers flew 2.5 miles ahead of the advancing fire front, according to UC Berkeley Landsat analyses. Temperatures exceeded a scorching 1,150 degrees, melting the aluminum alloy of cars’ engine blocks.
. . .
The Mercury News Lessons from Camp Fire: Staying alive in California fire country

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California Fire: Why Did Some Paradise Homes Burns and Other Survive? A Cal Fire Team Sifts Through the Ruins to Find Out

The survivors of Paradise aren’t the only ones with a story to tell about the fire that destroyed their town.

Buried within the harrowing tales of escape and heart-wrenching loss suffered by Paradise’s 27,000 residents, among the charred Ponderosa pines and scorched rubble, are clues to what transpired when a small fire broke out nearby on the morning of Nov. 8 and swallowed the town in a matter of hours.

While thousands of firefighters currently battle the Camp fire in Butte County and hundreds of law enforcement officers search for human remains among the ruins, it’s up a few dozen California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection investigators to read what the forest — and the buildings both standing and destroyed within it — has to tell them about why the Camp fire chose to destroy what it did that day.

The story is of keen interest to Jeff Hakala, a fire captain who was a firefighter for 20 years with Cal Fire before switching over to the agency’s prevention side with a focus on land use planning. Hakala spent a part of his firefighter training at Paradise’s Fire Station 35, about a mile down the road, in the 1990s.

. . .
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... ml#nt=card

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Devin Nunes on Maria Bartolimo (sp?) show. Says the forests are burning like this because logging. If we'd bring the loggers back in, they'd clear things out and then there'd be no fuel to burn. He did not get into what happens (or used to happen) with over logging and unstable hills and wildlife habitat and important stuff like that. :?: I'd like to ask him is if there's any evidence of massive wildfires like this back in the day when the white man first landed on the west coast and found those massive forests.

Interview finished up with the Nunes version of the Russia investigation and the FISA abuses etc. Worth a watch. If I find the video I'll post it on the appropriate thread.

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Very interesting article, arock, thank you.
arock wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:40 pm
California Fire: Why Did Some Paradise Homes Burns and Other Survive? A Cal Fire Team Sifts Through the Ruins to Find Out
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... ml#nt=card

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Woolsey Fire, Ventura and Los Angeles counties

96,949 acres - 91% contained. 1,086 personnel.
1,452 structures destroyed - 337 damaged (structures = all types, not just residences). Currently 90% of the burn assessment is complete.
Civilian fatalities: 3.


Source: Cal Fire Woolsey Fire
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Camp Fire, Butte County

150,000 acres. 65% contained. 5,332 personnel.
Civilian fatalities: 77.
Single-family residences destroyed: 10,364.

Multiple California Urban Search & Rescue (US&R) Task Forces and US&R Human Remains Detection Canine Search Teams have arrived to assist Butte County Sheriff with the search for, and recovery of, victims missing in the areas affected by the Camp Fire.

Source: Cal Fire Camp Fire (No more daily press briefing, so few details.)

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From Butte County Sheriff's Office.
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