Jeffs and 10 Others Indicted for Food Stamp Fraud Conspiracy and Money Laundering

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Post by Dan1100 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:43 pm

Getting back to this particular case, the court left out a major element of the crime from the jury instructions.

Whether there are technicalities or not in criminal law is really semantics more than anything else. But, leaving out a major element of the crime from the jury instruction just isn't a technicality.

How'd you like to be on trial for receiving stolen property you bought at a flea market and have them leave out the "knew or should have known the property was stolen" part or be on trial for moving your car around in your driveway after a few beers and have them leave out "on a public roadway"?
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Post by Maybenaut » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:50 pm

Well, that's kind of my point. Things that are truly minor (i.e., "harmless beyond a reasonable doubt" under California v. Chapman) don't result in convictions being avoided or overturned. It's got to be big. And big things aren't technicalities; they're due process violations.
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Post by Kendra » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 pm


Inside Warren Jeffs' Polygamous Sect:

The community of Short Creek, on the border of Utah and Arizona, has been the stronghold of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

They’re known for practicing polygamy and following the prophet Warren Jeffs, who is serving a life sentence for pedophilia.

Now, many FLDS homes are facing eviction. NBC Left Field takes a look.

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Post by AndyinPA » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:07 pm

I've watched the movie about Warren Jeffs and this town and the one in Texas several times, so this was interesting. I guess it's a solution, but it's obviously very difficult for the people in the town.

I'm not sure, but I think this is also the town where a woman was just elected as mayor who is not FLDS. All of the men on the governing board of the town resigned as she was a woman and an apostate.

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Post by DejaMoo » Wed May 29, 2019 4:11 pm

Grand Marais watches helplessly as Mormon cult leader Seth Jeffs settles in
In January, Utah attorney Alan Mortensen finally ended his yearlong manhunt. He walked up a driveway in Eden Prairie and handed a man in a white baseball cap some papers. Then he walked away.

That man was Seth Jeffs, brother to infamous cult leader Warren Jeffs. Warren is already serving a life sentence for his actions as the head of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints, a Mormon offshoot best known for marrying a parade of underage girls to grown men, Warren included.

Now a survivor from the church is accusing Seth of helping his brother sexually assault her when she was just 8 years old – and standing by as she was repeatedly abused through her teenage years. Mortensen traveled to Minnesota to serve him court documents. But while hunting for Seth, he and KARE 11 discovered the former cult higher-up had been keeping himself busy.

Seth is listed as the “managing member” of a company called Emerald Industries, which purchased a remote 40 acres on Pike Lake Road just west of Grand Marais. He has a permit to construct a nearly 6,000-square-foot building there.

Mortensen worries he might be trying to build another compound and “start a religious colony” on Minnesota’s North Shore.
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That’s not to say [Cook County Sheriff Pat Eliasen's] department isn't paying attention. They’ve seen Seth working on the property, and there are a few incidents there that are currently under investigation. Eliasen can’t talk about them. In the meantime, he says, residents can stay vigilant if they see children working on the property, or if they see children in town “showing signs of distress.”

“Yes, please, please notify us,” he says.
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