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Post by RTH10260 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:32 pm

Volkonski wrote:
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/gra ... 9c78d01ade
They also chanted: “The South will rise again. Russia is our friend. The South will rise again. Woo-hoo! Wooo.”
Will they enjoy their foot march to SIberia?



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Post by DrIrvingFinegarten » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:15 pm

Looks like the Charlottesville Police really think the problem was with "both sides"

http://www.wcpo.com/news/national/charl ... ing?page=2



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Post by DejaMoo » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:06 pm

DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:15 pm
Looks like the Charlottesville Police really think the problem was with "both sides"

http://www.wcpo.com/news/national/charl ... ing?page=2
Of course. This is the same police department that refused to provide protection to the local synagogue during the march.



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Post by arayder » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:20 pm

DejaMoo wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:06 pm
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:15 pm
Looks like the Charlottesville Police really think the problem was with "both sides"

http://www.wcpo.com/news/national/charl ... ing?page=2
Of course. This is the same police department that refused to provide protection to the local synagogue during the march.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arrest-warra ... 37014.html

It seems somebody, possibly one of the white supremacists, went to the magistrate's office and presented evidence that somewhere alone the time line of that day Harris did some beatin' of his own. A detective was sent to check out the facts and it seems there was enough evidence to get a warrant.

Harris is going to turn himself in.

Harris’ lawyer says the charge was a “clearly retaliatory”.

If the person that went to the magistrate's office is lying then he/she could have brought themselves a peck of trouble.



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Post by arayder » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:53 pm

So according to Mr. Merritt the claim that a police detective checked out the facts is false.



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Post by Addie » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:08 am

Newsweek: How the KKK is Targeting High School Students in White Supremacy Recruitment


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Post by DrIrvingFinegarten » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:17 pm

arayder wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:20 pm
DejaMoo wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:06 pm
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:15 pm
Looks like the Charlottesville Police really think the problem was with "both sides"

http://www.wcpo.com/news/national/charl ... ing?page=2
Of course. This is the same police department that refused to provide protection to the local synagogue during the march.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arrest-warra ... 37014.html

It seems somebody, possibly one of the white supremacists, went to the magistrate's office and presented evidence that somewhere alone the time line of that day Harris did some beatin' of his own. A detective was sent to check out the facts and it seems there was enough evidence to get a warrant.

Harris is going to turn himself in.

Harris’ lawyer says the charge was a “clearly retaliatory”.

If the person that went to the magistrate's office is lying then he/she could have brought themselves a peck of trouble.

So even though he did take a severe beating from five people, it's still possible that he may have committed the same felony himself?



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Post by arayder » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:14 am

DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:17 pm
arayder wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:20 pm

It seems somebody, possibly one of the white supremacists, went to the magistrate's office and presented evidence that somewhere alone the time line of that day Harris did some beatin' of his own. A detective was sent to check out the facts and it seems there was enough evidence to get a warrant.

Harris is going to turn himself in.

Harris’ lawyer says the charge was a “clearly retaliatory”.

If the person that went to the magistrate's office is lying then he/she could have brought themselves a peck of trouble.

So even though he did take a severe beating from five people, it's still possible that he may have committed the same felony himself?
Sure, one scenario would be that Harris attacked some white supremacists who overreacted by beating him so badly.

The other possibility is that the white supremacists see Harris as a sub-human who doesn't have the right to his own body (and hence can be beaten) and doesn't have civil rights (and hence can railroaded on a phony charge).



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Post by neeneko » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:02 am

arayder wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:14 am
The other possibility is that the white supremacists see Harris as a sub-human who doesn't have the right to his own body (and hence can be beaten) and doesn't have civil rights (and hence can railroaded on a phony charge).
The 3rd possibility is that they simply wish to make an example of what happens when someone speaks out. Witness intimidation is a fairly old white supremacist trick.



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Post by kate520 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:00 am

Yesterday I read that the police had investigated and declined to charge Harris, so the LOSer went to a magistrate who simply signed the warrant, in a citizen’s arrest kind of way. I thought I saw it from Shaun King but can’t find the specific article now. There’s this from the day of the arrest:
Charlottesville police say a person took out a warrant against Deandre Harris.

Harris is the 20-year-old man who was seen being attacked by a group of white nationalists after crowds dispersed following the “Unite the Right” rally.

He's being charged with one count of malicious wounding.

The magistrate had a Charlottesville detective verify the facts in the warrant.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/36556116/arr ... dre-harris


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Post by Addie » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:16 pm

HuffPo: Thousands Of Disturbing Neo-Nazi Flyers Mailed To Pennsylvania Residents


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Post by Addie » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:41 am

Daily Beast
White Supremacists Busted in Meth-and-Guns Ring

Nine white supremacists were arrested in Arkansas, along with 35 other people, on Wednesday as part of a major crackdown on local gun and drug crime.

The “To the Dirt” investigation was named for the New Aryan Empire slogan, which references the pledge that members of the Arkansas-based white supremacist prison gang are in the group until they die.

Law officials say they began investigating crimes by the white supremacist group and quickly realized their drug trade expanded into other states. Over the course of two years, agents made 59 controlled purchases of methamphetamine and seized more than 25 pounds of meth.

Eight of the indicted white supremacists are members of the NAE, according to law enforcement, while the ninth belongs to the White Aryan Resistance, a neo-Nazi organization led by former KKK Grand Dragon Tom Metzger. Indictments were issued for 70 people, with 23 remaining at large.

Members of both NAE and WAR have been involved in a “laundry list of criminal activity,” said Glenn Daniel, a lieutenant in Arkansas’ Russellville Police Department. The NAE was also the subject of a kidnapping and battery case in June that left one man with a stab wound.


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Post by Addie » Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:31 pm

Associated Press
KKK Leader Denied Bail for Firing Weapon at Virginia Rally

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) - A Baltimore Ku Klux Klan leader charged with firing a pistol during a violent white nationalist rally in Charlottesville has been denied bail despite his claim that he acted in self-defense.

Richard Wilson Preston is accused of firing a weapon within 1,000 feet of a school during the August rally. ...

He said he fired a shot after a friend was threatened by a counterprotester holding a makeshift flamethrower.

The judge's ruling means Preston will remain in the Albemarle Charlottesville Regional Jail pending a December hearing.


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Post by Volkonski » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:20 pm

Fla. gov declares state of emergency for Richard Spencer speech

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch ... cer-campus
Spencer is scheduled to speak at the University of Florida campus in Gainesville on Thursday.

Scott declared the state of emergency in Alachua County, noting that Spencer's speeches in other states have in the past "sparked protests and counter-protests resulting in episodes of violence, civil unrest and multiple arrests," according to the Tampa Bay Times.

“I find that the threat of a potential emergency is imminent,” Scott said in a seven-page executive order.

Scott said in a statement that everyone has a right to voice their opinions.


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Post by Fortinbras » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:49 am

A recent British news report ....
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ke ... mg00000009

After 40 years of membership in the National Front, a gay Jewish man seems to have finally become uncomfortable about its historic antisemitism and homophobia. No telling how long it would take him to let go of a red hot branding iron.



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Post by pipistrelle » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:52 am

I don't know how I managed it but I ended up on a certain site where they were giving out advice about a certain event. It was gag city, including this:

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Post by DejaMoo » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:33 am

Post-Hurricane, White Supremacists Show Up, Run off FEMA, Take Over Texas Town
...in Fort Bend County is a small agricultural community outside of Rosharon called Little Cambodia. It’s populated by Cambodian refuges, has its own Buddhist temple and has been pretty self sufficient. The area suffered serious flooding, and being outside of larger communities, was left on its own as the effort to respond to the disaster was organized. American Freedom Keepers, a lose affiliation of gun-toting anti-government screwballs based in Portland, Oregon, saw an opportunity, joined forces with a motorcycle club called Confederate Riders of America and swept in proclaiming that they are in charge of recovery. FEMA representatives were threatened by this crowd when they arrived trying to assess the situation and promptly left, feeling the area unsafe for their workers. AFK has now essentially taken over the community. The Confederate Riders say the community “is not ready for federal help”, whatever that means. The Fort Bend County sheriff is apparently trying to get handle on the situation.

So, who are these people? AFK is led by some guy who calls himself Francis Marion, apparently after a Revolutionary War figure who was famous for guerrilla tactics. AFK is identified with anti-government figures like Cliven Bundy and show up at white supremacist rallies around the country. They were highly visible last month at the white nationalist “Unite the Right” rally where KKK and Neo-Nazis clashed with anti-fascism counter protestors. A counter protester was killed by a white supremacist who plowed into a crowd with his car. AFK was a named participant in the rally, and they posted pictures of themselves wearing body armor and camo and toting guns at the rally.

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Unfortunately, this is often the result when someone unmasks radicals like AFK and Confederate Riders. Bad guys, who tote guns in public “protecting” white supremacists and those who celebrate the most shameful chapter in our history live in an upside down world where gun toting weirdos are the victims and normal people just asking questions are the bad guys. AFK suffered backlash for participating in the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville and other racist events. To counter that bad press, they rush down to a hurricane ravaged area, enlist the Confederate Riders, and run actual aid workers out of an area badly in need of help, declaring themselves in charge. That’s one of the goofiest traits of these kinds of groups – they just decide they’re going to “protect” a certain group of people (like the racists in Charlottesville) and self-appoint themselves as in charge, ignoring and even opposing those actually in authority. In this case, armed racists are trying to recast themselves as selfless do gooders. After all, how can they be racists when they’re helping Asian people? Oh, and please ignore that AR-15 standing in the corner.

The result is always the same – these militia style folks get in the way; they confuse things; they slow down response; oh, and they scare the shit out of normal people. Then, they declare victory, post it on Facebook, then run off to the next white supremacist event where they can get more attention for themselves by declaring “free speech”.



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Post by TexasFilly » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:53 am

Volkonski wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:20 pm
Fla. gov declares state of emergency for Richard Spencer speech

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch ... cer-campus
Spencer is scheduled to speak at the University of Florida campus in Gainesville on Thursday.

Scott declared the state of emergency in Alachua County, noting that Spencer's speeches in other states have in the past "sparked protests and counter-protests resulting in episodes of violence, civil unrest and multiple arrests," according to the Tampa Bay Times.

“I find that the threat of a potential emergency is imminent,” Scott said in a seven-page executive order.

Scott said in a statement that everyone has a right to voice their opinions.
[University of Florida President]Fuchs estimated the extra cost in security and other expenses at $600,000, but the source of the funding wasn't clear.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/un ... er-n812151


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Post by Fortinbras » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:18 pm

The University of Florida is reportedly spending $600,000 on security for Spencer's appearance, notwithstanding they don't want Spencer to appear.

My inclination is to spend a great deal less protecting only the University's property - buildings and shrubbery - and giving much warning well in advance that all people on all sides will have to fend for themselves. Presumably students and others not desiring to get involved will stay out of harm's way. People willing to take risks will take them.



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Post by RVInit » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:33 pm

I think it's dangerous to take on the attitude that we should just sit by and do nothing while these hate groups mobilize and march through the streets, yelling offensive racial slurs. I'm not suggesting that anyone here is suggesting that we do this, I'm only giving my general two cents worth here. Doing nothing and failing to mount protest against their messages would only serve to strengthen and encourage them. I would rather that nobody actually physically engage with them, I far prefer that those of us who are against them would turn out in very large number, stay a safe distance away, but vehemently protest against messages of hatred and division.


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Post by Fortinbras » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:56 pm

I am not enthused about spending more than half-a-million of a university's budget to prevent neo-nazis (nearly all not affiliated with the school) from having their heads dented. Let them know, going in, that it's entirely at their own risk. And pretty much the same for any limousine liberals who feel self-righteous enough to beat up on the mentally ill, even (or esp) those who might be muscular and armed.



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Post by Dan1100 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:59 pm

Fortinbras wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:18 pm
The University of Florida is reportedly spending $600,000 on security for Spencer's appearance, notwithstanding they don't want Spencer to appear.

My inclination is to spend a great deal less protecting only the University's property - buildings and shrubbery - and giving much warning well in advance that all people on all sides will have to fend for themselves. Presumably students and others not desiring to get involved will stay out of harm's way. People willing to take risks will take them.
That sounds good, until a couple of college kids get themselves killed.

I am on the side of overwhelming numerical superiority and strict enforcement against the neo-nazi trash. Outnumber them 5 to 1, keep the protesters separate from them as best you can, and haul any neo-nazi that commits the slightest infraction to jail. Drop a water bottle or cigarette butt on the ground, go to jail type of enforcement. If it becomes legally justifiable, immediately declare them an unlawful assembly and if they don't immediately disburse, give them some St. Louis County style tear gas therapy.


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Post by Volkonski » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:05 pm

Security ramped up for white nationalist Richard Spencer's Florida event today

http://abcnews.go.com/US/security-rampe ... d=50585570
Security costs for the University of Florida Police Department, Gainesville Police Department, Alachua County Sheriff's Office, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Florida Highway Patrol and other agencies total more than $500,000, according to the school website.

School President W. Kent Fuchs has since said the spending is closer to $600,000, The Associated Press reported.
Seems to me that Richard Spenser should be responsible for those extra costs.


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