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[/break1]msn.com/15-states-start-petitons-to-leave-the-usa]Citizens in 15 States Start Fruitless Petitions





It’s either the political theater equivalent of a hissy fit or the start of more than a dozen new countries: Citizens in 15 states have filed petitions to secede from the United States after Tuesday’s election. These include Louisiana (which led the charge), the Republic of Texas, Kentucky, Colorado, New Jersey, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Oregon. And somewhat hilariously, someone in North Dakota filed a petition requesting New York secede, which seems pretty rude, given they are sort of handling a major natural disaster right now. Although this is largely seen as symbolic, the filers in each state still have a month to gather 25,000 signatures to have their peaceful withdrawal from the U.S.A. considered by the president. Good luck with that. =)) =)) =)) =))


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I wonder how many signatures they will get from the likes Daniel Boone Pickens or Jemima Puddleducks.

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I wonder how many signatures they will get from the likes Daniel Boone Pickens or Jemima Puddleducks.There's probably a couple of duplicates like Donald Duck, Otto Matic, Minnie Mouse, Bruce Wayne etc.
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Aren't they two horns on the same old goat?

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Craig Maus, President, The Confederate Society of America, has issued a strong [link]warning to secessionists,http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/11/ ... ssion.html[/link]: what you are doing may have negative repercussions. Instead of secession, what you should be seeking is restoration of the Government of the Confederate States of America -- the "Government that was Never Surrendered- Deo Vindice!"However, RESTORATION is an altogether different venue as ALL LAWS DERIVED & ENACTED PRIOR TO 1865 REMAIN IN EFFECT BUT HAVE SIMPLY BEEN ‘CLOSETED’ BY THE IDEOLOGUES IN WASHINGTON.Therefore, by becoming a Confederate Citizen, in addition to holding a dual U.S. Citizenship, YOU CAN RESTORE THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTS!THE CONFEDERATE GOVERNMENT IS IN ABSENTIA! THUS THE CURRENT & BOGUS EDICTS WASHINGTON HAS DESIGNED & CRAFTED EVER SINCE 1865 can be Overridden & Challenged.The Provisional Government of The Confederate Republic is currently preparing a COMPLETE & TOTAL EXPOSE regarding The CURRENT Laws & Statutes regarding Secession and Nullification so YOU can understand them & thus, the Real Options YOU can presume.
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Craig Maus, President, The Confederate Society of America, has issued a strong [link]warning to secessionists,http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/11/ ... ssion.html[/link]: what you are doing may have negative repercussions. Instead of secession, what you should be seeking is restoration of the Government of the Confederate States of America -- the "Government that was Never Surrendered- Deo Vindice!"However, RESTORATION is an altogether different venue as ALL LAWS DERIVED & ENACTED PRIOR TO 1865 REMAIN IN EFFECT BUT HAVE SIMPLY BEEN ‘CLOSETED’ BY THE IDEOLOGUES IN WASHINGTON.Therefore, by becoming a Confederate Citizen, in addition to holding a dual U.S. Citizenship, YOU CAN RESTORE THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTS!THE CONFEDERATE GOVERNMENT IS IN ABSENTIA! THUS THE CURRENT & BOGUS EDICTS WASHINGTON HAS DESIGNED & CRAFTED EVER SINCE 1865 can be Overridden & Challenged.The Provisional Government of The Confederate Republic is currently preparing a COMPLETE & TOTAL EXPOSE regarding The CURRENT Laws & Statutes regarding Secession and Nullification so YOU can understand them & thus, the Real Options YOU can presume.So is the Rhodesia Government in Exile...[/break1]rhodesia.nl/Exile/index.html]Rhodesia GIE...patiently waiting for the invitation to return in all it's glory - Oh yes, the bar is over there.
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However, RESTORATION is an altogether different venue as ALL LAWS DERIVED & ENACTED PRIOR TO 1865 REMAIN IN EFFECT BUT HAVE SIMPLY BEEN ‘CLOSETED’ BY THE IDEOLOGUES IN WASHINGTON.Chickens. They should go with 1861, not 1865. They won't because they don't want to be seen as openly advocating for the repeal of the 13th amendment. Cowards.

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However, RESTORATION is an altogether different venue as ALL LAWS DERIVED & ENACTED PRIOR TO 1865 REMAIN IN EFFECT BUT HAVE SIMPLY BEEN ‘CLOSETED’ BY THE IDEOLOGUES IN WASHINGTON.Chickens. They should go with 1861, not 1865. They won't because they don't want to be seen as openly advocating for the repeal of the 13th amendment. Cowards.1861 to 1865 is the total time the government was in effect - it did say all laws PRIOR to 1865. That pretty much covers it there guy.The 13th Amendment was not part of the CSA Constitution and as such had no effect in another country.
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I guess it was just a fancy sound stage with an actor pretending to be Robert E. Lee signing the surrender. hmm Texas V White.

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Craig Maus, President, The Confederate Society of America, has issued a strong [link]warning to secessionists,http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/11/ ... ssion.html[/link]: what you are doing may have negative repercussions. Instead of secession, what you should be seeking is restoration of the Government of the Confederate States of America -- the "Government that was Never Surrendered- Deo Vindice!"However, RESTORATION is an altogether different venue as ALL LAWS DERIVED & ENACTED PRIOR TO 1865 REMAIN IN EFFECT BUT HAVE SIMPLY BEEN ‘CLOSETED’ BY THE IDEOLOGUES IN WASHINGTON.Therefore, by becoming a Confederate Citizen, in addition to holding a dual U.S. Citizenship, YOU CAN RESTORE THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTS!THE CONFEDERATE GOVERNMENT IS IN ABSENTIA! THUS THE CURRENT & BOGUS EDICTS WASHINGTON HAS DESIGNED & CRAFTED EVER SINCE 1865 can be Overridden & Challenged.The Provisional Government of The Confederate Republic is currently preparing a COMPLETE & TOTAL EXPOSE regarding The CURRENT Laws & Statutes regarding Secession and Nullification so YOU can understand them & thus, the Real Options YOU can presume.Because nothing says "I'm a raving loony" like randomly capitalizing words.

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Anyone see the Mockumentary about the CSA winning the War of the Rebellion???[/break1]wikipedia.org/wiki/C.S.A.]Wiki Confederate States of America 'The Movie"
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I guess it was just a fancy sound stage with an actor pretending to be Robert E. Lee signing the surrender. hmm Texas V White.Hee, the RWNJ brainiacs I'm seeing online who claim to have read Texas v White seem to think that secession is easy peasy.





All ya have to do is get 26 other states to bid bon voyage to whatever state wants to secede and it's a done deal.
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Therefore, by becoming a Confederate Citizen, in addition to holding a dual U.S. Citizenship, YOU CAN RESTORE THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTS!But a dual U.S.A-C.S.A. citizen would be ineligible to be the president of either nation! :-k
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WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:Grant the God-Fearing, Tooth-Challenged, Cousin-Wives and Uncle-Husbands of Texas' Petition to Secede from the USThe People of the Great State of Texas are tired of the Government of the United States coming around here with their fancy, high-falutin notions about dental care, non-cousin-marrying, nasal breathing, Lubbock invading, and tolerance toward the unheartlandishly-hued, sodomitarians, and not-men.A petition has been filed with White House to "peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government." Currently, that petition has 8,646 signatures. That's nearly half the population of the United States according to God-fearing conservative statistician Dick Morris.We the undersigned urge you to grant that petition.[/break1]whitehouse.gov/petition/grant-god-fearing-tooth-challenged-cousin-wives-and-uncle-husbands-texas-petition-secede-us/gN9SN37q]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... s/gN9SN37q
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The White House shirley won't simply count the entries on a "petition." They would discover that among the 25,000+ on one of the petitions, there are 1,100 instances of Daffy Duck having signed, 22,000 instances of signatures by persons not resident in the state that is "petitioning" to secede, and 10,000 instances of duplicate names.
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The White House shirley won't simply count the entries on a "petition." They would discover that among the 25,000+ on one of the petitions, there are 1,100 instances of Daffy Duck having signed, 22,000 instances of signatures by persons not resident in the state that is "petitioning" to secede, and 10,000 instances of duplicate names. Or Seymour Heiney or Ivanna Mann or Hugh Jazz. Those might be the only signatures. :lol: I'm always amused when downstate legislators kick up some dust that they are tired of Chicago telling the rest of Illinois what to do. They want to cut Cook and some collar counties loose. If they did that, they would lose more than 80% of the current state revenue. Downstate takes more than its share of state and federal monies, but that doesn't stop them from crying over their soybeans.

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[link]Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States Of America.,https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... a/dmQl1bXL[/link]

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Therefore, by becoming a Confederate Citizen, in addition to holding a dual U.S. Citizenship, YOU CAN RESTORE THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTS!But a dual U.S.A-C.S.A. citizen would be ineligible to be the president of either nation! :-kDe minimis. The main problem is that Virginia is not going to secede. Where will they meet to vote the re-introduction of slavery? In some courthouse out of reach of black university students AND Holder's jet plane?West-Virginia, of course, would secede this time. A good opportunity to re-unite Ol' Virginy, make Puerto Rico a state and keep the 50 star flag.You heard it here first.

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There is always Montgomery, Alabama. :D The original capitol of the Confederacy.
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[link]Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States Of America.,https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... a/dmQl1bXL[/link]Shared that. 8-)

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[link]Disgruntled Austinites Petition To Secede From Texas,http://austinist.com/2012/11/13/disgrun ... ion_to.php[/link]"The petition to allow Austin to withdraw from Texas states:Austin Texas continues to suffer difficulties stemming from the lack of civil, religious, and political freedoms imposed upon the city by less liberally minded Texans. It is entirely feasible for Austin to operate as its own state, within the United States, in the event that Texas is successful in the current bid to secede. It is important for Austin to remain in the union as to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers."

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There is always Montgomery, Alabama. :D The original capitol of the Confederacy.Yabbut, it's in Democratic hands as are most of the large cities of the south....well, most that I am aware of.


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Let's take a look at the numbers:Say that the US tells Texas "Fine, whatever, you don't want to play anymore, then go".First off, what makes Texas think that they get to keep all the military equipment at bases there? Sure, they get the bases. But squat else. Same with the Johnson Space Center. We get the equipment, they can keep the buildings.Then there's the numbers -Current news reports say that 60,000 signed this (many of which don't live in Texas, but that's neither here or there). Their current population is 25,674,681. So 0.23% signed this petition.Mitt Romney got 4,555,799 votes in Texas. "Others", (Virgil Goode and other write ins) got 2,584. So we'll say 4,558,383 That means only 17.75% of the population of Texas voted for Mitt Romney or "other" (I'm leaving Gary Johnson's votes out of this)But for the sake of argument, let's figure that the same percentage that voted for Romney (57.19%) want to stay in the new Texas, while everyone else gets the hell out. That's a population of 14,683,350.The Texas Military Forces consist of the Texas National Guard, the Texas Air National Guard, and the Texas State Guard. According to their 2012-2013 appropriations request, they have 25,381 members (19,564 National Guard, 3013 Air National Guard, 1921 Texas State Guard, and 883 state and federal employees.) They don't have much in the way of maritime forces. Let's figure that they stick around as well.Here's the thing. To the south is Mexico (population 113,910,608). With a standing military of 259,770, divided between Army, Air Force, and Navy, with fairly modern equipment. Not to mention the fact that the narco-controlled Ciudad Juárez is right across the border from El Paso.Mexicans also remember the Alamo. And who won there. And guarding the Texas/Mexican border would be the responsibility of the new Republic of Texas, not the US.So how long would the "Republic of Texas" last before becoming part of Mexico again??

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Why doesn't the US government simply sell Texas to Mexico for the consideration of $10? :P We could always keep our bases like we did in the Civil War, but not employ the locals. They get squat. We get the airports. They get squat. We bottle up all navigable waterways and ports. We dismantle all overpasses on federal highways and exits. We dismantle all connected bridges and rail lines. We place an international embargo on them. We move NASA. We don't allow them to have visas. We maintain control of oil production, refinement and shipment.Let's see them survive.It's fun to have a crazy day once in a while. :dazed:

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