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Prager U are basically trolls -- SMACKDOWN.

Federal court tosses conservatives' First Amendment suit against YouTube
YouTube is not a "state actor" bound by the First Amendment, the court ruled.
By NANCY SCOLA 02/26/2020 05:25 PM EST

A federal court today rejected a conservative nonprofit's First Amendment suit against YouTube, ruling that the Google-owned company's "braggadocio" about free speech doesn't create a legal requirement to host others' content without restrictions. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling against Prager University is a blow to some conservatives' arguments that platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter are legally liable for decisions that, as they see it, silence right-of-center voices.

YouTube is not a "state actor" bound by the First Amendment, the court ruled, rejecting Prager's argument that the company "performs a public function." It cited a Supreme Court precedent on that principle just last year. "Despite YouTube’s ubiquity and its role as a public-facing platform, it remains a private forum," the appellate court ruled.

Prager University, co-founded by conservative talk-show host Dennis Prager, publishes videos with titles like "Black Fathers Matter" and "So, You Think You're Tolerant?" It had argued that by restricting access to its videos through age limits and other means, YouTube was in legal violation of its stated commitment to act as a public forum for free expression.

A three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit upheld a lower court's ruling dismissing that claim, as well as one arguing YouTube had violated federal laws on deceptive advertising. "YouTube’s braggadocio about its commitment to free speech constitutes opinions," the court ruled today.
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Orlylicious wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:06 am
Prager U are basically trolls
The 9th's ruling; n.b.:
9th Cir. wrote:See, e.g., Freedom Watch, Inc. v. Google, Inc., 368 F. Supp. 3d 30, 40 (D.D.C. 2019) (“Facebook and Twitter … are private businesses that do not become ‘state actors’ based solely on the provision of their social media networks to the public.”)
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The pseudolawyers lurve to make this claim, despite it repeatedly being smacked down in the courts.
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Loomer could go work for them, they have the same belief systems, except, I suspect egos would quickly get in the way.
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bob wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Orlylicious wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:06 am
Prager U are basically trolls
The 9th's ruling; n.b.:
9th Cir. wrote:See, e.g., Freedom Watch, Inc. v. Google, Inc., 368 F. Supp. 3d 30, 40 (D.D.C. 2019) (“Facebook and Twitter … are private businesses that do not become ‘state actors’ based solely on the provision of their social media networks to the public.”)
:dance:

The pseudolawyers lurve to make this claim, despite it repeatedly being smacked down in the courts.
I had a member of this forum make the same argument to me in a recent message, i.e., that deleting an offensive Facebook post was "censorship." Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

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boots wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:27 am
bob wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Orlylicious wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:06 am
Prager U are basically trolls
The 9th's ruling; n.b.:
9th Cir. wrote:See, e.g., Freedom Watch, Inc. v. Google, Inc., 368 F. Supp. 3d 30, 40 (D.D.C. 2019) (“Facebook and Twitter … are private businesses that do not become ‘state actors’ based solely on the provision of their social media networks to the public.”)
:dance:

The pseudolawyers lurve to make this claim, despite it repeatedly being smacked down in the courts.
I had a member of this forum make the same argument to me in a recent message, i.e., that deleting an offensive Facebook post was "censorship." Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Well, to be accurate, it may be censorship, it is just not state censorship.
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woodworker wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:20 pm
boots wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:27 am
bob wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:29 pm

The 9th's ruling; n.b.:

:dance:

The pseudolawyers lurve to make this claim, despite it repeatedly being smacked down in the courts.
I had a member of this forum make the same argument to me in a recent message, i.e., that deleting an offensive Facebook post was "censorship." Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Well, to be accurate, it may be censorship, it is just not state censorship.
So then youtube is "censoring" after all?

Or not?

I say not.

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boots wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:45 pm
woodworker wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:20 pm
boots wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:27 am


I had a member of this forum make the same argument to me in a recent message, i.e., that deleting an offensive Facebook post was "censorship." Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
Well, to be accurate, it may be censorship, it is just not state censorship.
So then youtube is "censoring" after all?

Or not?

I say not.
You'Tube is preventing video from being shown, based on its own rules, TOS, etc. That is the essence of censorship. The fact that YouTube is not a "state' actor is what makes the difference between permissible and impermissible censorship (broadly speaking). And that is the basis for the dismissal. Google and YouTube are not state actors so they can censor all they want.
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Plus, those TOS are part of the legal agreement for them allowing you to post your dearly held delusions.
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Wonkette and the Post and Email have moderated comments in a way that is basically censorship. However, it is not illegal per the 1st Amendment because neither Yr Wonkette and Sharon are state actors.

Wonkette is also up front about it.
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Northland10 wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:19 pm
Wonkette and the Post and Email have moderated comments in a way that is basically censorship.
Heck, Foogy is, basically, a censor: first-three-posts moderation; no personal attacks; time-outs and banes for the rulesbreakers.

:torches:

(I kid; private censorship is a reality in civilization; but the magickal thinking to transform social media into state actors isn't going to happen.)
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Yeah, but I never violate the First Amendment to the US Constitution.

See, the real issue is not whether it's censorship, but whether it's prohibited censorship in violation of the First Amendment.

And the first thing you have to do in order to violate the First Amendment is to be a government official acting with governmental authority. The US government or a state government, that is.

'Course, I'm a government officer in the Galactic Grand Jury and the District Court of Bun-Dogs, but those aren't subject to the US Constitution.

Neither, they say, are Twitter, Facebook, or the Goog. :blink:
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And Lordy, don't they whine about that.
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I don't understand (yes I really do, but so what) why people are all of a sudden upset about "platforms" engaging in censorship. This has been going on since the first newspapers were published (and probably before that). Choosing which letters to the editor to publish, choosing which articles to publish, choosing how to edit and portray an article, choosing what to cover -- all of these decisions apply across other forms of media. Heck, look at a dictionary or encyclopedia -- how do they define things, how are things described.

If you want to look at it in the basest form, every time an EDITOR makes an editorial decision, what slant to take, what to include, how extensively, if at all, should something be covered, how long should an article be, etc., they are effectively engaging in censorship. And state actors engage in censorship all the time, from deciding what can be included on a sample ballot to prohibiting bogus health claims in advertising or even deciding what, and how something, can be advertised.

End of my rant for today. Must take more drugs.
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Mike milks it for all it's worth. What was Chuck thinking.
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Awww what a shame for the Kremlin. (Posobiec works for OANN)





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