Neo-Nazi / White Supremacist News

[Dan1100]

Mr. Hankes said that recently the group had also embraced ideas associated with the occult and Satanism, ideologies that have further estranged its members from other white supremacists.

Satanism? That is a new one. I have heard of rise of Odenism among white surpremists and neo-nazis, but satanism?

I think pretty much any time I see 'satanism' or 'occult' come up, I really question how accurate either the reporting is or how significant the movement actually is. It has always been more the domain of 'young idiots with a webpage claiming they are something' or 'scared idiots who still believe the satatnic panic was real'

Reminiscent of the satanism scare of the 1980's that managed to infiltrate law enforcement and social services.

Mostly they found teenagers gathering in the middle of nowhere and drinking beer.

The closest the locals found was the satanic mutilation (aka field dressing) of a cow, who was satanically cut into steaks, and then eaten at a big satanic bar-b-que complete with a live band (which the perpetrators threw to help raise bail money for a friend).

Anyway, wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse

[neeneko]

Reminiscent of the satanism scare of the 1980's that managed to infiltrate law enforcement and social services.

Mostly they found teenagers gathering in the middle of nowhere and drinking beer.

Yeah, that is the moral panic that made me highly skeptical of such claims.

[mmmirele]

Reminiscent of the satanism scare of the 1980's that managed to infiltrate law enforcement and social services.

Mostly they found teenagers gathering in the middle of nowhere and drinking beer.

Yeah, that is the moral panic that made me highly skeptical of such claims.

Off topic

Well, to be honest, there's more to it than just that. There's the whole notion of "recovered memories," which is highly controversial and unproven, but caused great havoc back in the late '80s and early '90. Yesterday, I was reviewing a complaint for a civil case involving a child abuse coverup where one of the plaintiffs alleged some things which reminded me all too much of satanic ritual abuse. Unfortunarly, it was wrapped up with additional claims which were more believable. Also unfortunately, because of that state's very short statute of limitations, the case never went to a trier of fact.

However, SRA and its iterations have not gone away. Some of you probably know about this already, but there's a blog that tracks the fallout from a false accusation of ritual sexual abuse in Hampstead, London, England. Some of the perps have gotten themselves into messes more familiar to us as "freeman on the land," and suchlike. They're also covered by our sister from another mister, Quatloos.

https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/


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On the subject of Paul Nehlen, I noticed the Nazi wannabees are making it easier to see who they are because they're changing their Twitter screen names to "Paul Nehlen" and bleating incorrectly about the First Amendment. It's alternately amusing and horrifying at the same time.

[Flatpointhigh]

It's all about their freeze peach to say whatever they will without consequence.

[kate520]

Freeze Peach.

Sprout is at the age where he’s bad-curious. Someone gave him a copy of Anton Levay’s Satanic Bible and he left it on his desk. It freaked me out, so I bought a copy at the Goodwill and mr520 and I looked through it.

We didn’t read the whole thing, granted, but what we did see was fairly tame cultural griping about the hypocrisy of Christianity. I’m sure there’s bad stuff in there, but honestly, I think Levay called it ‘Satanic’ to panic the pious. I suppose if you’re the kind of person who would think Trump is the Second Coming and that it’s treasonous to say mean things about a white president, you’d believe anything.

[Orlylicious]

Nehlen is now banished to GAB and whining about it.

Nehlen.JPG

[neeneko]

We didn’t read the whole thing, granted, but what we did see was fairly tame cultural griping about the hypocrisy of Christianity. I’m sure there’s bad stuff in there, but honestly, I think Levay called it ‘Satanic’ to panic the pious.

Well, yeah. Satanism, black masses, the whole aesthetic, was basically atheistic trolling. It is all about theatrics and being intentionally blasphemous, I'm not sure there is even anything actually 'bad' in it.

[Suranis]

I remember reading about someone from the Vatican talking about Levays bunch, and he said they just play act being evil, which trivializes real evil. Which probably pissed off Levay no ebd.

[Flatpointhigh]

I remember reading about someone from the Vatican talking about Levays bunch, and he said they just play act being evil, which trivializes real evil. Which probably pissed off Levay no ebd.

LeVay couldn't give a shit about what the Vatican said.

[Suranis]

LeVay couldn't give a shit about what the Vatican said.

Heh, are you kidding? His whole existence is to mock and outrage the Church. Without them he is nothing, and he sure as hell has bugger all ideas of his own. Like any troll he lives and dies on the outrage and attention he generates. Its like Orly saying that she does not give a shit what Obama says. Its a fucking lie.

Its a bit like those guys who were all hot and heavy to arrest Pope Benedict when he visited England... only for their balls to shrivel up when they realized that the Vatican was ignoring them and he was coming anyway. Then Richard Dawkins suddenly "got ill and could not make it" and they all slunk away.

Anyway, agree to disagree.

[voxpopuluxe]

We didn’t read the whole thing, granted, but what we did see was fairly tame cultural griping about the hypocrisy of Christianity. I’m sure there’s bad stuff in there, but honestly, I think Levay called it ‘Satanic’ to panic the pious.

Well, yeah. Satanism, black masses, the whole aesthetic, was basically atheistic trolling.

Among the individuals who are identifying as neo-nazis or "Atomwaffen," at the moment, I'm sure that a lot of the "Satanism" is an act on top of an act. It wouldn't surprise me if they started identifying as cannibals, too. The whole shtick is to seem as terrifying as possible. That said, there's a difference between a bunch of nerds in robes calling themselves "Satanists" and a gang-cult trying to incite each other to ever more violent acts. It's precisely the difference between a cabaret act like LaVey and a gang like the Manson family. My guess, too, is that a claim to be "Satanists" filters for a type of individual likely to be responsive to further entreaties.

On this topic, I've been following the work of Luke O'Brien, Christopher Mathias, A.C. Thompson, and Ali Winston, in particular.

Two recent interesting articles:

The Alt-Right is Killing People

I Married A White Supremacist: How my husband went down the rabbit hole of Neo-Nazism

[RoadScholar]

I can assure you there are actual Satanists, and that the last thing they want is for you to know about them.

If they're in the news, by and large, they're poseurs.

The ones I am aware of would refer to the 'nerds in robes' as something along the lines of "lunch."

[DejaMoo]

I remember reading about someone from the Vatican talking about Levays bunch, and he said they just play act being evil, which trivializes real evil. Which probably pissed off Levay no ebd.

LaVey would've said they had the wrong group, because his official Church of Satan is an atheist organization. Read his manifesto, it's all about self-actualization, understanding there are no gods and pursuing your life to its fullest. People who worship an evil being are devil worshipers, not Church of Satan Satanists.

Of course, Satanism is used to describe a hodge-podge of beliefs and practices, just like Christianity. Anyone can call themselves Christians or Satanists...but LaVey's official Church of Satan is quite explicit as to their group's specific beliefs and practices.

As an example of another Satanic group, the Satanic Missionary Society in Washington had their own prayer line for a number of years. If you want to entertain yourself by listening to their online archive of prayer requests phoned into the hotline, visit their site at http://www.satanicmission.org/
They'll also help you sell your soul to the devil, if you're so inclined. And for the Catholics possessing a sense of humor, they also sell indulgences.

[mmmirele]

Quinn Norton was hired yesterday by the New York Times as a tech opinion writer. She was then fired six hours later after it became clear she'd used racial and anti-LGBT slurs in various places online.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a83 ... 06751f8fbe

Then there was the whole business with Norton being especially cuddly with the neo-Nazi founder of "The Daily Stormer," one Andrew Auermheimer, AKA "weev", which is why the story is here.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/ ... urce=atltw

The only thing I'm wondering is if the Times would have defended Norton longer if she'd been a white male.

[mmmirele]

Neo-Nazi pagans buy 44 acres in Tennessee and some neighbors are nervous.

There, where the asphalt turns into a narrow gravel path traveling through the woods, is where Angela Dover Meadows has purchased a 44-acre parcel of land. Her husband, Eric Meadows, has posted on social media about bulldozer work being done in a wooded area in Southeast Tennessee for a project called Wotans Nation.

Eric Meadows is a former member of the National Socialist Movement who operated as the training director for a paramilitary wing of the League of the South, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit organization that tracks the activity of hate groups nationwide.

Meadows has been active in North Georgia for years and was based out of Rome, Ga., according to an article submitted by an anti-fascist group to the website It's Going Down. He has been a particularly active member of the white supremacist movement for years, attending rallies and holding meetings, among other things, according to the law center. He also hosted an internet radio show called "NSM Hoff," releasing episodes with titles such as "White Power Hour" until he canceled the show after only a few months.

The story ends with one of the county residents saying "everyone in Meigs County is racist."Blergh. Fertile country for these types.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/loca ... an/463443/

[Volkonski]

Since The Republic of Florida is in the news here are their "best" training moments.



There looks to be maybe 4 or 5 of them at most.

These are their best moments?

Pathetic.

[Volkonski]

Matt Pearce
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@mattdpearce

Andrew Anglin backpedaling at the Daily Stormer after a Florida white nationalist group claims the Florida massacre suspect as a member. I'm sharing because it's a look at the movement's internal politics during situations like this, which happen with disturbing frequency.
1:27 PM - Feb 15, 2018

[Judge Roy Bean]

Since The Republic of Florida is in the news here are their "best" training moments.



There looks to be maybe 4 or 5 of them at most.

These are their best moments?

Pathetic.

Wannabe "militia" playing out a cheezy fantasy; their first encounter with an actual SWAT team would be embarrassingly short and if they raised a weapon, probably fatal.

[RTH10260]

Since The Republic of Florida is in the news here are their "best" training moments.

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=140&v=CldRzrU_G5o

There looks to be maybe 4 or 5 of them at most.

These are their best moments?

Pathetic.

Video is no longer available...

[Volkonski]

All the ROF YouTube videos have been taken down.

The ROF website is still up.

https://republicofflorida.wordpress.com/

ROF's plan-

Our current short-term goals are to occupy urban areas to recruit suburban young whites, Then to “Withdrawal” into majority white urban areas to create communes, While maintaining a permanent small presence.

Long term, Our towns will become our ethnostates. Were not going to ask permission from the estableshemnt to have our territorial imparrative!

Many grammar and spelling errors on the site.

[Judge Roy Bean]

All the ROF YouTube videos have been taken down.

The ROF website is still up.

https://republicofflorida.wordpress.com/

ROF's plan-

Our current short-term goals are to occupy urban areas to recruit suburban young whites, Then to “Withdrawal” into majority white urban areas to create communes, While maintaining a permanent small presence.

Long term, Our towns will become our ethnostates. Were not going to ask permission from the estableshemnt to have our territorial imparrative!

Many grammar and spelling errors on the site.

Somehow, something tells me their ardent followers wouldn't notice.

[Flatpointhigh]

LeVay couldn't give a shit about what the Vatican said.

Heh, are you kidding? His whole existence is to mock and outrage the Church. Without them he is nothing, and he sure as hell has bugger all ideas of his own. Like any troll he lives and dies on the outrage and attention he generates. Its like Orly saying that she does not give a shit what Obama says. Its a fucking lie.

Its a bit like those guys who were all hot and heavy to arrest Pope Benedict when he visited England... only for their balls to shrivel up when they realized that the Vatican was ignoring them and he was coming anyway. Then Richard Dawkins suddenly "got ill and could not make it" and they all slunk away.

Anyway, agree to disagree.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wh ... 6726e1285c

All The White Supremacists Running For Office In 2018
Plus candidates who’ve said white supremacist things, hung out with white supremacists, or talked to anti-Semitic publications.


There are at least three white supremacists currently running for Congress, and a fourth running for a state House seat. Two other candidates — one of whom can unambiguously be called a white supremacist, and one who has ties to white supremacist groups but denies being a white supremacist himself — announced runs for public office, but have since dropped out of their respective races.

Still more Republican candidates, many of whom are running for re-election, have used white supremacist slogans, invited white supremacists to official government events, or granted interviews to racist or anti-Semitic publications.

It’s important to identify these candidates, not only so people know who’s on their ballot, but because ― as we’ve seen ― someone who’s thought of as fringe one year can be in the White House the next.

[Azastan]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wh ... 6726e1285c

All The White Supremacists Running For Office In 2018
Plus candidates who’ve said white supremacist things, hung out with white supremacists, or talked to anti-Semitic publications.


There are at least three white supremacists currently running for Congress, and a fourth running for a state House seat. Two other candidates — one of whom can unambiguously be called a white supremacist, and one who has ties to white supremacist groups but denies being a white supremacist himself — announced runs for public office, but have since dropped out of their respective races.

Still more Republican candidates, many of whom are running for re-election, have used white supremacist slogans, invited white supremacists to official government events, or granted interviews to racist or anti-Semitic publications.

It’s important to identify these candidates, not only so people know who’s on their ballot, but because ― as we’ve seen ― someone who’s thought of as fringe one year can be in the White House the next.

Your link sent me to a 404 page.

[realist]

Same here, 404.