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NATO says Russian jets, bombers circle Europe in unusual incidents



MOSCOW — NATO said Wednesday that it had intercepted a large number of Russian aircraft flying close to European airspace in the past two days, in an “unusual” series of incidents that brought Russian bombers as far afield as Portugal.



The aircraft — at least 19 in all — offered reminders of Russian air power at a time of the worst relations between the West and Russia since the Cold War. Russian military aircraft have significantly increased their activity in Europe since the conflict in Ukraine began earlier this year, with NATO scrambling to intercept aircraft more than 100 times in 2014. But a NATO official said the scale of the latest incidents was the most provocative this year.



Over the Atlantic Ocean and the North, Black and Baltic seas, Russian bombers, fighter jets and tanker aircraft were detected flying in international airspace, NATO said. There were no incursions into national airspace, a violation of sovereignty that would have significantly amplified the seriousness of the four incidents, three of which took place on Wednesday. ...



U.S. officials regard the flights as a show of force by the Putin government. “It’s concerning because it’s moving in the wrong direction,” said one U.S. defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the air activity publicly. “It’s not helping to de-escalate the situation in Ukraine. It’s not helping to improve relations between NATO and Russia. It’s not helping anybody.” ...



In at least one of the four incidents, the aircraft had switched off their transponders and had not filed flight plans with civilian air traffic controllers. That means that civilian air traffic control cannot track them, potentially creating a risk for civilian planes.






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Russia resuming Cold War-era bomber flights close to U.S. shores





In response to NATO's "anti-Russia inclinations," the Kremlin will resume its Cold War-era practice of sending long-range bombers to patrol the western Atlantic and eastern Pacific, Russia's defense minister announced Wednesday.



The flights, which will extend to the borders of U.S. territorial waters, follow a markedly more aggressive air defense posture by Russia in the eight months since it seized and annexed Ukraine's Crimea region in March, according to European strategic analysts.



Moscow's nuclear-capable strategic bombers regularly conducted flight operations near the U.S. maritime borders during the Soviet era but the long-range flights were sharply curtailed after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union and the division of its defense forces among its 15 republics, which became independent states.



Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced the moves, intended to flex Russia's global military muscle, at a meeting of the national military council on Wednesday. He did not say whether the long-range operations were already underway or how frequently the bomber runs would be conducted.






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Russian bomber patrols to reach Gulf of Mexico

MOSCOW -- In a show of military muscle amid tensions with the West, Russia will send long-range strategic bombers on regular patrol missions across the globe, from the Arctic Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico, a top official said Wednesday. ...



Shoigu said Russian long-range bombers will conduct flights along Russian borders and over the Arctic Ocean. He said, "In the current situation we have to maintain military presence in the western Atlantic and eastern Pacific, as well as the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico." ...



A senior U.S. military official said Russia has not previously flown actual bomber patrols over the Gulf of Mexico, including during the Cold War. ...



The bomber patrol flights have resumed under President Vladimir Putin's tenure, and they have become even more frequent in recent weeks, with NATO reporting a spike in Russian military flights over the Black, Baltic and North seas as well as the Atlantic Ocean. ...



In September, the report said, Russian strategic bombers in the Labrador Sea off Canada practiced cruise missile strikes on the U.S. Earlier this year, in May, the report said, Russian military aircraft approached within 50 miles (80 kilometers) of the California coast, the closest such Russian military flight reported since the end of the Cold War.






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Putin gave an exclusive interview with German TV station ARD, in which he defended Russia's right to carry out these missions. The relevant portion:



HUBERT SEIPEL: Last week marked the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin wall, which would not have been possible without the Soviet Union’s consent. That was back then. In the meantime, NATO is conducting exercises in the Black Sea, near the Russian borders, while Russian bombers conduct exercises in Europe’s international airspace. The Defence Minister said, if I’m not mistaken, that they fly as far as the Gulf of Mexico. All of this points to a new Cold War.

And, of course, partners exchange harsh statements. Some time ago, President Obama named Russia as a threat on a par with Ebola and the extremists, the Islamic extremists. You once called America a nouveau riche, who thinks of himself as a winner of the Cold war, and now America is trying to shape the world according to its own ideas about life. All of this is very reminiscent of a Cold War.



VLADIMIR PUTIN: See, you mentioned 2001 and I said that my perspective was rather optimistic.

We have witnessed two waves of NATO expansion since 2001. If I remember correctly, seven countries – Slovenia, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romania and three Baltic States, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania – joined NATO in 2004. Two more countries joined in 2009. Those were significant geopolitical game changers.

Furthermore, the number of military bases is growing. Does Russia have military bases around the world? NATO and the United States have military bases scattered all over the globe, including in areas close to our borders, and their number is growing.

Moreover, just recently it was decided to deploy Special Operations Forces, again in close proximity to our borders.

You have mentioned various exercises, flights, ship movements, and so on. Is all of this going on? Yes, it is indeed.

However, first of all, you said – or perhaps it was an inaccurate translation – that they have been conducted in the international European airspace. Well, it is either international (neutral) or European airspace. So, please note that our exercises have been conducted exclusively in international waters and international airspace.

In 1992, we suspended the flights of our strategic aircraft and they remained at their air bases for many years. During this time, our US partners continued the flights of their nuclear aircraft to the same areas as before, including areas close to our borders. Therefore, several years ago, seeing no positive developments, no one is ready to meet us halfway, we resumed the flights of our strategic aviation to remote areas. That’s all.

English transcript of the interview: http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/23253

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Russia Baltic military actions 'unprecedented' - Poland



Poland says the level of Russian naval and air force activity in the Baltic Sea region has been "unprecedented" this week.



Defence Minister Tomasz Siemoniak said most of the activity was in international waters and airspace and Sweden was the country most affected.



Nato partners of the Baltic states, including the UK, have military jets on an air policing mission in the region, monitoring the Russian planes. ...



The spike in activity follows a study by the London-based think tank European Leadership Network, which detailed 40 incidents over recent months, including 11 that it said were of a "more aggressive or unusually provocative nature, bringing a higher level risk of escalation".



In one case, an SAS civilian airliner taking off from Copenhagen narrowly avoided colliding with a Russian reconnaissance plane.













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Russia to target Denmark's warships if it joins missile shield: ambassador



(Reuters) - Danish warships will be a target for Russian nuclear weapons if the Scandinavian country joins NATO's missile defense program, Russia's ambassador to Denmark told the newspaper Jyllands-Posten.



Mikhail Vanin said he did not think the Danes fully understood the consequences if it went ahead with a decision to join the program.



"If that happens, Danish warships will be targets for Russian nuclear missiles," Vanin said in an interview published on Saturday.



Denmark said in August it would contribute to the missile shield with radar capacity on some of its warships. ...



"Romania came under great pressure when they became a part of the (missile shield). Poland is coming under great pressure and now anyone else who wants to join in to this defensive capability will come under this diplomatic and political pressure," Breedlove said without naming Russia.








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Time for Denmark to acquire a nuclear first strike capability. They don't need much. Just one missile aimed at Moscow. ;)



Russia needs to work on its diplomacy. Getting EU nations angry at you when you are trying to get sanctions lifted is unwise.
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Who shoots a nuke at a warship, actually?



Isn't that like putting on clown shoes to stomp on an itty bitty ant?




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Who shoots a nuke at a warship, actually?



Isn't that like putting on clown shoes to stomp on an itty bitty ant?



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The only credible threat to project power beyond its immediate borders that Russia has are its nukes. Its navy is a joke. Its air force is in better shape, at least on paper, but many of its aircraft are thought to be unusable. To be taken seriously Russia has to threaten with its nukes.
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And no one want to be the first one to set one off. It is at the very least economic suicide for just one small little teensy one for the deploying country.



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Volkonski, on 22 Mar 2015 - 10:26 PM, said:

Time for Denmark to acquire a nuclear first strike capability. They don't need much. Just one missile aimed at Moscow. ;)

Russia needs to work on its diplomacy. Getting EU nations angry at you when you are trying to get sanctions lifted is unwise. :yeah:

Of course this threat is laughable cause it would only be an event as part of WW3. At that time any country in Europe will be dealing with nuclear fallout and the disappearance of a Danish warship in a cloud of steam would be seen as a minor annoiance, even to the Danish themselves.

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In any large exchange, Denmark would cease to exist as they are in the crossfire.



So...I really don't think it matters all that much when the "balloon goes up"




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NATO Caps Size of Russia’s Mission After Internal Reports of Espionage ...



Not for long. NATO, publicly citing an administrative effort to limit the size of delegations from “partner nations” like Russia, has capped them at 30 members.



But Western officials said the move also followed a confidential assessment by the alliance’s Civilian Intelligence Committee that intelligence agents had been part of Russia’s delegation.



No one is shocked that spies might be in Russia’s delegation, and shrinking its size would hardly eliminate the risk of espionage, said the Western officials, who asked not to be identified talking about intelligence issues. But they said it could make the problem easier to manage. ...



NATO’s intelligence committee, which made the assessment that members of the Russian delegation had been using their status to spy, is led by Norway under a rotating chairmanship and is made up of representatives from the intelligence services of all of the alliance’s members.



The West has previously expelled Russian diplomats for espionage. But the suspension of NATO’s cooperation with Russia and the alliance’s coming headquarters move have provided it with an opportunity to take more far-reaching and, some Western diplomats say, long overdue action.






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NATO: Big Military Build-up on Russia-Ukraine Border



NATO's chief on Thursday reported a sizeable Russian military buildup on the border with Ukraine that he said would enable pro-Moscow separatists to launch a new offensive with little warning.



NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Russia has substantially stepped up supplies to the rebels, as well as providing them with advanced training and equipment like drones, despite a cease-fire.



Making an accusation of their own, Russian officials said U.S. military instructors were training Ukrainian national guardsmen in urban fighting techniques in the same eastern regions where Ukrainian forces and separatists have been fighting for the past year.



In Washington, the U.S. State Department rejected the Russian claim of U.S. trainers in eastern Ukraine, saying all the activity was in western Ukraine near the border with Poland. ...



Stoltenberg said the reported Russian moves undermine the cease-fire declared in eastern Ukraine and violate the Minsk agreements entered into by Moscow. He said more than 1,000 pieces of Russian military equipment have been moved over the past month, including tanks, artillery and air defense units.






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Associated PressUS to Put Military Equipment in Several European CountriesTALLINN, Estonia — Defense Secretary Ash Carter announced Tuesday that the U.S. will spread about 250 tanks, armored vehicles and other military equipment across six European nations, including the Baltic states, to help reassure NATO allies facing an array of threats from Russia and terrorist groups.Each set of equipment would be enough to equip a military company or battalion, and would go on at least a temporary basis to Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Romania. Carter said the equipment could be moved around the region for training and military exercises, and would include Bradley fighting vehicles and self-propelled howitzer artillery guns."We intend to move those equipment sets around as exercises move around," Carter told a news conference. "They're not static. Their purpose is to enable richer training and more mobility to forces in Europe." He said the U.S. presence will be "persistent" but "agile."But while the stated goal of the move is that American forces moving in and out of Europe will be better able to do training, it also would allow NATO nations to more quickly respond to any military crisis in the region. 
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WSJ NATO to Weigh Nuclear Threats From RussiaBRUSSELS—NATO defense ministers will gather Wednesday facing a challenge they have not confronted since the end of the Cold War: vocal nuclear threats from an assertive Kremlin.Russian President Vladimir Putin said last week he’s adding 40 inter-continental ballistic missiles to Russia’s arsenal. Moscow has incorporated nuclear components into its recent military exercises, and it has increased flights of nuclear-capable bombers. Russia’s leaders in recent months have repeatedly cited the country’s nuclear capabilities. ...“The nuclear messaging of Russia is destabilizing, it’s unjustified, and it’s dangerous,” NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said Monday. “What we learned during the Cold War is that everything related to nuclear weapons has to be dealt with in a very cautious way.”Douglas Lute, the American ambassador to NATO, said Tuesday the U.S. and NATO are reviewing their options. The U.S. has accused Russia of violating the 1987 Intermediate Nuclear Forces treaty by testing a medium-range missile.“There is a general assessment under way in Washington, and a parallel assessment here in NATO, to look at all the possible implications of what Russia says about its nuclear weapons…and what we actually see on the ground in terms of development and deployment,” Mr. Lute said.
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Russia’s Driving the Nordics Into NATO

Putin’s aggressive behavior toward the Baltics is forcing Swedish and Finnish skeptics to rethink membership in the Western alliance.

Russian intimidation of its Baltic sea neighbors is accelerating their cooperation. Sweden is now considering taking part in NATO’s joint expeditionary force. This would deploy in response to any Russian provocation in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, the alliance’s most vulnerable members. Sweden has just increased its bilateral military ties with Poland, the region’s military heavyweight. Sweden’s small but influential Centre Party has just dumped its anti-NATO position. Another traditionally NATO-skeptical party, the Christian Democrats, are likely to follow suit at their party conference on October 11.

The reaction is hardly surprising. Russian warplanes fire flares at the Swedish fighter aircraft that intercept them; Sweden’s security police states openly that Russia is the country’s biggest intelligence threat.

Yet Russia is fuming. “Swedish membership in NATO would have politico-military and foreign policy consequences, and would require retaliatory measures from Russia,” the foreign ministry said. Sweden—run by a red-green coalition government which does not actually want to join NATO—complained sharply.

In Finland, the other non-NATO country in the region, people are looking on with interest mixed with concern. They do not want to be caught by surprise, as they were in 1990 when Sweden suddenly declared that it wanted to join the European Union.

The NATO debate is moving faster in Sweden than in Finland. Finland’s president Sauli Niinisto recently downplayed the idea that his country could defend its Baltic neighbors, arguing: ”Finland is not in a position where it could offer others security guarantees which we ourselves don't even have.”
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Putin keeps going out of his way to make problems for Russia. :roll:
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Turkey intercepts Russian fighter jet violating its airspace

Turkey has said that a Russian jet violated its airspace near the Syrian border over the weekend. Ankara scrambled fighters of its own and has since summoned Moscow's ambassador.

"The Russian aircraft exited Turkish airspace into Syria after it was intercepted by two F-16s from the Turkish Air Force, which were conducting patrols in the region," Turkey's foreign ministry said in a statement on Monday. The Russian jet was said to have infringed Turkish airspace on Saturday at 12:08 pm (0908 GMT) in Turkey's southern Hatay province.

Turkish Foreign Minister Feridun Sinirlioglu also spoke with his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, and with other NATO countries to convey his country's unease regarding the incident.

Ankara's foreign ministry officials also summoned Moscow's ambassador to register a "strong protest," according to officials.

Ankara urged Moscow not to repeat the violation, failing which it would be held "responsible for any undesired incident that may occur," the official statement said.
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CNN: Russia says Turkish airspace violation 'a mistake,' Turkish media report

New York Times: NATO Warns Russia After Warplane Enters Turkish Airspace
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NATO secretary general confirms second Russian violation of Turkish airspace

NATO's secretary general confirmed Tuesday a second incursion by Russian planes into Turkish airspace, condemning the action in strong terms.

"Russian combat aircraft have violated Turkish airspace," Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said, according to NATO's website. "This is unacceptable."

Stoltenberg elaborated at a news conference.

"We also have seen two of them, two violations of Turkish airspace," he said. "Intelligence that we have received provides me with reason to say it doesn't look like an accident."

The first violation of Turkey's airspace is reported to have happened Saturday. The second was Sunday, officials said.
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NATO secretary general confirms second Russian violation of Turkish airspace

NATO's secretary general confirmed Tuesday a second incursion by Russian planes into Turkish airspace, condemning the action in strong terms.

"Russian combat aircraft have violated Turkish airspace," Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said, according to NATO's website. "This is unacceptable."

Stoltenberg elaborated at a news conference.

"We also have seen two of them, two violations of Turkish airspace," he said. "Intelligence that we have received provides me with reason to say it doesn't look like an accident."

The first violation of Turkey's airspace is reported to have happened Saturday. The second was Sunday, officials said.
Putin trying to see what he can get away with. :x If it happens again we should parachute American radical Muslims into Islamic areas of southern Russia. ;)
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Oh goodie, Putin is spending money he doesn't have to send troops and ships to Syria. Looks like he is failing to learn a lesson from the money wasted by the USA in the Middle East over the last decade. ;)
NATO on Tuesday rejected Moscow's explanation that its warplanes violated the airspace of alliance member Turkey at the weekend by mistake and said Russia was sending more ground troops to Syria and building up its naval presence.

With Russia extending its air strikes to include the ancient city of Palmyra, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said he was losing patience with Russian violations of his country's air space.

"An attack on Turkey means an attack on NATO," Erdogan warned at a Brussels news conference.

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had reports of a substantial Russian military build-up in Syria, including ground troops and ships in the eastern Mediterranean.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/ ... DS20151006

Otto von Bismark predicted that "Some damn foolish thing in the Balkans" would set off a general European war. He was right and 11 million people died. :( What he would say about the situation in the Middle East now?
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Turkey Demands That Russia Respect Its Borders

ANKARA, Turkey — Turkey's prime minister demanded Wednesday that Russia respect Turkey's borders, saying the nation won't "make any concessions" on matters of border security, after two Russian warplanes strayed into Turkish airspace over the weekend.

Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu also renewed criticism of the Russian airstrikes in Syria, insisting they were mainly targeting the moderate Syrian opposition and therefore helping strengthen the extremist Islamic State group that is fighting Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces. He asked that Russia also respect Turkey's security concerns over neighboring Syria.

On Wednesday, Turkey's military reported a new incident, saying surface-to-air missile systems based in Syria locked radar on Turkish jets for 1 minute and 30 seconds Tuesday. It was not clear if they were Syrian or Russian systems.

Russian warplanes violated Turkey's borders twice over the weekend, drawing strong protests from Turkey's NATO allies. Turkey scrambled F-16s in response and also summoned the Russian ambassador to lodge a protest. Ankara also reported its jets were harassed during patrols of the Syrian border by fighter jets and surface-to-air missile systems in Syria.
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NATO, Alarmed by Russian Actions in Syria, Shores Up Defenses

BRUSSELS — Confronted with its biggest military challenge since the end of the Cold War, a weakened NATO took steps Thursday to shore up its flanks, both in the Middle East and Europe, as Russia continued to test the credibility of the alliance’s bedrock principle of collective defense.

Western officials have been alarmed by the speed and scale of Moscow’s intervention in Syria. Russia’s warplanes have violated Turkish airspace — deliberately so, NATO officials have said — and its warships in the Caspian Sea have fired cruise missiles at targets in Syria — though several seemed to have fallen short of their mark, landing somewhere in Iran, a senior American defense official said on Thursday.

Not wanting to inflame the situation, but also wary of appearing too passive, Western officials have responded cautiously, taking a number of limited steps while raising the rhetorical heat on Moscow.

On Thursday they said they had stepped up military exercises and deployed a small number of logistics personnel in Eastern and Central Europe. Britain announced that it would send soldiers to the Baltic countries, Poland and Ukraine after the show of force by Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin. Germany condemned Russia’s operations in Syria in unusually pointed terms.

“We are implementing the biggest reinforcement of our collective defense since the end of the Cold War,” NATO’s secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg, said before a meeting of defense ministers here on Thursday. After the meeting, he said, “All of this sends a message to NATO citizens: NATO will defend you, NATO is on the ground, NATO is ready.”
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Russia is testing it's latest toys to see if they work before trying to use them in Ukraine. According to a news report, their new missiles fired from the Caspian Sea took short detour landing in Iran.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/politics/ ... nded-iran/
Washington (CNN)A number of cruise missiles launched from a Russian ship and aimed at targets in Syria have crashed in Iran, two U.S. officials told CNN Thursday.

Monitoring by U.S. military and intelligence assets has concluded that at least four missiles crashed as they flew over Iran. One official said there may be casualties, but another official said this is not yet known.

It's unclear where in Iran the missiles landed. The Russian ships have been positioned in the south Caspian Sea, meaning the likely flight path for missiles into Syria would cross over both Iran and Iraq.

The Russians have been firing a relatively new cruise missile called "Kaliber," using it for the firs
Also the Russians to my knowledge never asked permission to overfly Iran or Iraq with live warheads (which the weapons must do).
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