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Post by Addie » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:32 pm

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Trump says he wants military to guard U.S.-Mexico border until wall is built

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants the military to deploy troops along the U.S.-Mexico border to protect the nation until a wall is built at the southern border.

"We are going to be guarding our border with our military. That's a big step,” Trump said during a session at the White House with the leaders of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. "We cannot have people flowing into our country illegally, disappearing and, by the way, never showing up for court."

A senior official at the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday that putting troops on the U.S.-Mexico border had been under discussion but that no roll-out had been planned because of unresolved policy issues. The official said Secretary of Defense James Mattis did not want armed troops at the border.

Spokespeople for the Pentagon and Mattis did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


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Post by kate520 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:44 pm

I’m having a panic attack over this. :panic: :panic:

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kate520 wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:44 pm
I’m having a panic attack over this. :panic: :panic:

Addie, help! Need more hugs!
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I needed some last night. The Sinclair thing takes me back to McCarthy.


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Post by kate520 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:47 pm

It’s escalating fast, seem to me.
Let’s go huddle over there in the corner together, TRL. :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:


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Post by Slim Cognito » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:48 pm

Addie wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:32 pm
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Trump says he wants military to guard U.S.-Mexico border until wall is built

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants the military to deploy troops along the U.S.-Mexico border to protect the nation until a wall is built at the southern border.

"We are going to be guarding our border with our military. That's a big step,” Trump said during a session at the White House with the leaders of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. "We cannot have people flowing into our country illegally, disappearing and, by the way, never showing up for court."

A senior official at the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday that putting troops on the U.S.-Mexico border had been under discussion but that no roll-out had been planned because of unresolved policy issues. The official said Secretary of Defense James Mattis did not want armed troops at the border.

Spokespeople for the Pentagon and Mattis did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:48 pm

Addie wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:32 pm
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Trump says he wants military to guard U.S.-Mexico border until wall is built
:snippity:
If you don't want any military personnel along the border, they could of course lay out mine fields. A bit messy when they get washed away in stormy conditions especially when they end up on Mexican territory.



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Post by Chilidog » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:48 pm

Since being an undocumented immigrant is essentially a civil misdemeanor, would this violate posse comitus?



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Post by kate520 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:50 pm

Seriously, chili! This is all kinds of wrong, and even if he’s prevented from doing it, it shows his malevolent intent. What’s next?


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Post by ZekeB » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:53 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:48 pm
Since being an undocumented immigrant is essentially a civil misdemeanor, would this violate posse comitus?
You just attach the troops to the Texas National Guard instead of doing it the other way around. I’m amazed that someone didn’t dream this up at Dennys.


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Post by Addie » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:54 pm

Me, too, need hugz :grouphug:

Yesterday morning a taxi driver was carrying my groceries for me and told me he'd lived in Chicago for 14 years and had to leave his wife and kids behind. I burst out :crying:


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Post by AndyinPA » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:55 pm

kate520 wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:50 pm
Seriously, chili! This is all kinds of wrong, and even if he’s prevented from doing it, it shows his malevolent intent. What’s next?
I'd say that's the big question. Unfortunately, we know it will be bad.



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:55 pm

kate520 wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:47 pm
It’s escalating fast, seem to me.
Let’s go huddle over there in the corner together, TRL. :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
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Post by kate520 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:56 pm

Addie wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:54 pm
Me, too, need hugz :grouphug:

Yesterday morning a taxi driver was carrying my groceries for me and told me he'd lived in Chicago for 14 years and had to leave his wife and kids behind. I burst out :crying:
:crying: :crying:
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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:57 pm

ZekeB wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:53 pm
Chilidog wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:48 pm
Since being an undocumented immigrant is essentially a civil misdemeanor, would this violate posse comitus?
You just attach the troops to the Texas National Guard instead of doing it the other way around. I’m amazed that someone didn’t dream this up at Dennys.
What great deal will dotus make with California to convince them to take the army supplement :?: :think:



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Post by kate520 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:59 pm

They’re already fighting about Zinke’s plan to take federal land away from CA’s purview and mine and frack the hell out of it. Also, too, they want to strip us of the right to require more stringent emission laws than the fed.


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Post by TollandRCR » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:06 pm

The resident in the White House is violating many norms. Is there no way to stop him?


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Post by ZekeB » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:07 pm

The sooner this moran gets thrown out of office, the better.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:08 pm

I predict an ICE v. Military war. ICE is not going to want Mattis having any control over its playground.


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Post by bob » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:09 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:48 pm
Since being an undocumented immigrant is essentially a civil misdemeanor, would this violate posse comitus?
My WAG is that is exactly why the DHS and DoD are being so coy.

Don't forget: Fitzpatrick "indicted" Obama because a local commander briefly deployed forces to restore order in a nearby town.


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Post by Mikedunford » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:21 pm

This is another case where taking a deep breath and waiting to hear the details might be called for. Both W and Obama deployed National Guard troops to help secure the Mexican border, in addition to some states (Texas) independently deciding to use non-federalized Guard at/near the border.


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Post by Suranis » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:24 pm

Helicopter an Aircfaft Carrier over and drop it in the middle of the Border. Easy.


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Post by RoadScholar » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:51 pm

Have helicopters scoop up plastic trash from the Great Pacific Ocean Plastic Trash Eddy and dump it on the border.

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Post by Addie » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:53 pm

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GOP rep: I'm not comfortable with Trump sending troops to southern border

A GOP lawmaker on Tuesday voiced disapproval with President Trump’s vow to send troops to the U.S.-Mexico border to prevent illegal crossings.

“I don’t really feel really comfortable with deploying military troops and creating the possibility for an increase in violence and an escalation of the conflict,” Rep. Francis Rooney (R-Fla.) said on CNN.

Instead, Rooney said, "These people should be stopped at the border and vetted out, just the normal process, and we should have plenty of agents down there to do that." He voiced concerns that deploying troops would escalate tensions “unnecessarily.”

“I would rather have the dealings with immigration be handled in a civil context and not a military one,” he said.


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Post by AndyinPA » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:57 pm

This totally disregards the fact that there aren't many people crossing the Mexican border these days. Most of the illegal immigration is from people who come in on visas and overstay. I guess he'll need to put up walls and send in the troops to all the international airports, too. :brickwallsmall:



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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:58 pm

Will they be sent to shoot people or just strong-arm them back across the border?



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