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Trump administration preparing to shelter migrant children on military bases

The Trump administration is making preparations to warehouse migrant children on military bases, according to Defense Department communications, the latest sign the government is moving forward with plans to split up families who cross the border illegally.

According to an email notification sent to Pentagon staffers, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) will make site visits at four military installations in Texas and Arkansas during the next two weeks to evaluate their suitability for child shelters.

The bases would be used to hold minors under age 18 who arrive at the border without an adult relative or after the government has separated them from their parents. HHS is the government agency responsible for providing minors with foster care until another adult relative can assume custody. ...

An official at HHS confirmed the military site visits. Speaking on condition of anonymity because the plans are not yet public, the official said HHS currently has the bed space to hold 10,571 children in its network of 100 foster-care facilities.

Those facilities are at 91 percent capacity, the HHS official said, and the Trump administration’s crackdown plans could push thousands more children into government care. The official said DHS has not provided projections for how many additional children to expect.


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Post by RTH10260 » Tue May 15, 2018 6:03 pm

Next the WH can open those alleged FEMA camps and those alleged secret tunnels under Wal-Marts..... :twisted:



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Post by Whatever4 » Wed May 16, 2018 11:56 pm

Gee — a growing opioid crisis, beds at 91% capacity, social services and non-deployment resource cuts, and now thousands of non-English-speaking children separated from their parents and put into military bases. What could go wrong?

I don’t think this administration has correctly identified who the non-human animals are. :madguy:


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Post by Kendra » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:48 pm

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 26379.html
The Trump administration is looking to build tent cities at military posts around Texas to shelter the increasing number of unaccompanied migrant children being held in detention.

The Department of Health and Human Services will visit Fort Bliss, a sprawling Army base near El Paso in the coming weeks to look at a parcel of land where the administration is considering building a tent city to hold between 1,000 and 5,000 children, according to U.S. officials and other sources familiar with the plans.

HHS officials confirmed that they’re looking at the Fort Bliss site along with Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene and Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo for potential use as temporary shelters.

The aggressive plan comes at the same time that child shelters are filling up with more children who have been separated from their parents. The number of migrant children held in U.S. government custody without their parents has increased more than 20 percent as Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen rolled out the administration's new policy zero tolerance policy that separates children from their parents who now face prosecution.



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Post by Dan1100 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:57 pm

Maybe I am missing something (not a surprise), but why don't these children fall under the jurisdiction of the state juvenile courts.

Aren't the states, not the federal government, in loco parentis (edit: wrong latin meant Parens patriae ) for children whose parents are federal prisoners?

Shouldn't they be going into state licensed foster care or state licensed group homes?


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Post by Maybenaut » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Kids. In tents. In Texas. In August. Nice.



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Post by RVInit » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:14 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:09 pm
Kids. In tents. In Texas. In August. Nice.
Yup. Wonder where they got that idea from.


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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:31 pm

Dan1100 wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:57 pm
Maybe I am missing something (not a surprise), but why don't these children fall under the jurisdiction of the state juvenile courts.

Aren't the states, not the federal government, in loco parentis (edit: wrong latin meant Parens patriae ) for children whose parents are federal prisoners?

Shouldn't they be going into state licensed foster care or state licensed group homes?
My guess: the parents and their kids have not received resident status, so they are in limbo under the "care" of the Border Patrol.



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Post by mmmirele » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:12 pm

RVInit wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:14 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:09 pm
Kids. In tents. In Texas. In August. Nice.
Yup. Wonder where they got that idea from.
And we just got rid of his damned tents. This is horrible.



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:33 am

I have avoided this thread until now. This is cruelty. :sick:


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Post by MN-Skeptic » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:53 pm

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I keep forgetting to contribute to the ACLU. This story at least kicked my butt into gear.


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Post by Dolly » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:27 pm

Undocumented immigrant says feds took daughter during breastfeeding

An undocumented immigrant from Honduras said that federal officials separated her from her daughter while she was breastfeeding her child in a detention center, an attorney told CNN.

Natalia Cornelio, an attorney with the Texas Civil Rights Project who interviewed the immigrant, told the network that the woman was handcuffed when she resisted the authorities.

The woman was being held in a detention center when the incident took place, after she was apprehended for entering the country illegally. Cornelio said the woman sobbed while recounting the incident.

The Trump administration implemented a “zero tolerance” policy earlier this year for those caught illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.

All people apprehended entering the country illegally are subject to prosecution under the policy. Adults and children are prosecuted separately, leading to their separation. < snip>
http://thehill.com/latino/392136-undocu ... astfeeding

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Post by Addie » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:52 pm

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Pentagon asked to prep housing for up to 20,000 unaccompanied immigrant kids on military bases

The Pentagon has been asked by the federal health department to provide housing on military bases for as many as 20,000 immigrant children, a U.S. official said Thursday.

The Department of Health and Human Services has asked the Defense Department if beds for kids caught crossing the border with Mexico illegally could be ready at military bases "as early as July through December 31, 2018," the Washington Post reported, citing a notification to Congressional lawmakers.

"How will that work? Is it even feasible," asked Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, the Senate minority leader, on the Senate floor.

The Post story noted that the Obama administration had used three military bases in 2014 to house around 7,000 children who cross the border without adult family members.

This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates.


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Post by Addie » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:22 pm

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‘Smacks of Totalitarianism,’ Troops Say

The Pentagon ‘is participating in a scheme that appropriates the concept of military honor to perpetrate a human rights abuse,’ one decorated veteran tells The Daily Beast.


Active-duty and retired U.S. military officers and enlisted personnel are expressing a sense of moral emergency over the Defense Department setting up detention camps for undocumented immigrants on military bases.

“It smacks of totalitarianism,” said Steve Kleinman, a retired Air Force colonel and military intelligence officer.

Raf Noboa, an Iraq War veteran and former Army sergeant, said he was astounded by the “enormous moral offense” the camps represent and which the military will be ordered to support.

“America’s military once liberated people from concentration camps,” Noboa told The Daily Beast. “It beggars the mind and our morality that it might be used to secure them.”

“I knew something bad was going to happen. I have always taken [President Trump]’s rhetoric at face value and right now, I’m not banking on the president having good will towards people of my nationality,” said an active-duty military officer of Mexican descent currently stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, one of the sites under consideration for the detention camps.


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Post by Addie » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:51 pm

The Hill OpEd - Mark Hannah
U.S. military should fight enemies, not detain immigrants

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis recently told reporters that two military bases in Texas will house immigrants — Fort Bliss in El Paso and Goodfellow Air Base in San Angelo. This comes on the heels of last week’s request by the Trump administration that the U.S. military get ready to house 20,000 immigrant children.

While many Americans are justly horrified by the callous treatment of immigrant families, there is another population for whom this policy shows a wanton disregard: the U.S. Armed Forces. The brave men and women of the American military are trained warfighters, not caregivers. President Trump should stop misusing their proficiency and patriotism to advance a dishonest immigration agenda.

Military responses are appropriate when our country is faced with a true national security threat, but the idea that immigrants pose such a threat has been thoroughly debunked. Many studies show that immigrants commit crimes less often than native-born Americans, and cities with growing immigrant populations are becoming less violent, not more.

For all the Trump administration’s alarmist rhetoric about gangs infiltrating the U.S., recent Border Patrol data shows that fewer than one-tenth of one percent of migrants captured at the Southern border are even suspected of having gang affiliations. President Trump’s claim that immigrants are bringing “drugs and crime” simply does not add up.

Detaining immigrants on U.S. military bases is just one part of a broader policy of militarizing immigration enforcement, and follows the deployment of 4,000 National Guard troops to the border this spring.


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Post by RVInit » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:31 pm

Trump is achieving a couple of probable goals by using the military. Number one he probably would love nothing more than to be able to use the military as his personal police force. Number two - he can hide these kids from the press. It will be very difficult for the press to gain access in order to report what is happening to these kids or adults who would be kept on military bases.


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Post by Danraft » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:42 pm

What stood out to me of The Hill article above, was the "one tenth of one percent" of Border Patrol apprehensions are gang related"

Following the links to the provided data yields

USBP Nationwide Apprehensions by Gang Affiliation
FY2014 - FY2018TD through May 31, 2018

Gang Affiliation FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018TD
18th Street 96 84 47 61 75
Angelino Hei. 13 0 0 0 1 0
Bandidos 1 0 0 0 0
Barrio Azteca 7 6 4 3 0
Border Brothers 0 0 0 0 0
Brown Pride 0 0 0 0 0
Folk Nation 0 0 0 0 0
Hard Times 13 0 0 1 0 0
Hells Angels 0 0 1 0 0
Herma (HPL) 2 2 0 3 1
Latin Kings 17 16 18 6 5
Los Zetas 0 0 1 0 0
MS-13 437 335 253 228 275 <<=== Note decreasing trend
Mara-R 0 0 0 1 0
Mal s t. 0 0 1 0 1
Mexican Mafia 3 4 6 4 3
Mexicles 0 0 0 0 0
Mexikanemi 7 2 0 3 0
Nortenos 13 14 5 6 4
Other 183 154 136 90 57
Outlaws 1 0 0 0 0
Paisas 86 73 119 53 42
(PRM) 0 0 0 0 0
Playboys 0 0 1 0 0
South Los 1 0 0 0 0
(sur-13) 160 140 90 66 39
Tango Blast 18 14 16 8 5
Texas Syndicate 2 0 3 1 1
West Park 0 0 0 1 0
Zetas 0 0 0 1 1
Total 1,034 844 702 536 509. <<==== Note decreasing trend

And the total :

U.S. Customs and Border Protection is the nation’s largest federal law enforcement agency charged with securing the nation’s borders and facilitating international travel and trade. Our top priority is to keep terrorists and their weapons from entering the United States.
Sekrit Stuffs!
At the nation’s more than 300 ports of entry, CBP officers have a complex mission with broad law enforcement authorities tied to screening all foreign visitors, returning American citizens and imported cargo that enters the U.S. Along the nation’s borders, the United States Border Patrol and Air and Marine Operations are the uniformed law enforcement arms of CBP responsible for securing U.S. borders between ports of entry.

The following is a summary of CBP enforcement actions related to inadmissibles, apprehensions, arrests of individuals with criminal convictions and individuals who have been apprehended multiple times crossing the border illegally.

Visit CBP's Southwest Border Migration page for demographic information regarding apprehensions and inadmissibles on the southwest border and the Use of Force page for use-of-force statistics and case summaries.

TOTAL CBP ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
Numbers below reflect FY2016 and FY2017 totals, FY2018TD (October 1, 2017 - May 31, 2018)

FY2016 FY2017 FY2018TD
OFFICE OF FIELD OPERATIONS (OFO)
Total Inadmissibles1 274,821 216,370 153,489
U.S. BORDER PATROL
Total Apprehensions2 415,816 310,531 256,857
Total Enforcement Actions 690,637 526,901 410,346 <<=== Note decreasing Trend Sekrit Stuffs!
1Inadmissibles refers to individuals encountered at ports of entry who are seeking lawful admission into the United States but are determined to be inadmissible, individuals presenting themselves to seek humanitarian protection under our laws, and individuals who withdraw an application for admission and return to their countries of origin within a short timeframe.
2Apprehensions refers to the physical control or temporary detainment of a person who is not lawfully in the U.S. which may or may not result in an arrest.

Table did not transfer well. :crying:
This is important data.Link
This directly contradicts EVERYTHING the admin has been using for justification of this ill conceived and brutal policy.
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