Military to guard Mexico border?

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Post by bob » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:07 pm

CNBC: President Trump wants to send up to 4,000 National Guard troops to the Mexico border: Here's what we know about his plans:
Trump himself told reporters Thursday that there could be "anywhere from two to four thousand" National Guard members deployed. The president didn't offer a specific number when reporters asked him about the potential cost. "Depends on what we do," he said.

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[T]he Pentagon currently supports the DHS border security mission with efforts from NORTHCOM, SOUTHCOM, PACOM, the National Guard and the Army Corps of Engineers.

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During Wednesday's White House press briefing Nielsen, of Homeland Security, announced that troops would deploy immediately, even going as far to say that the National Guard could mobilize as soon as that evening.

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The National Guard will support the Custom and Border Protection with aviation, engineering, surveillance, communications, vehicle maintenance and logistical support.

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It is also unclear whether the National Guard who are mobilized to the border will be armed.
So the president is deploying fewer unarmed helpers than Dubya did. :yawn: And yet the president's base credits him for stopping a caravan of rapists. :roll:


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Re: Military to guard Mexico border?

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Post by Volkonski » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:51 pm


NBC News

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Texas National Guard is preparing to immediately deploy with supporting aircraft, vehicles, and equipment to the Texas-Mexico border. Within 72 hours, the Texas military department will have 250 personnel.
https://
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6:49 PM - Apr 6, 2018


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Post by bob » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:50 pm

HuffPo: Trump Signs Memorandum Ending ‘Catch And Release’ Policy:
The president ordered the end of the policy in which undocumented immigrants are released from detention while awaiting a court hearing on their status.

U.S. President Donald Trump signed a memorandum on Friday ordering the end of a policy, known as “catch and release,” in which undocumented immigrants are released from detention while awaiting a court hearing on their status.

As part of the memo, Trump asked Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to produce a list of military facilities that could be used to detain undocumented immigrants.
Lawsuit in 3 ... 2 ...


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Post by bob » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:54 pm

CNN: Trump presses for options to end 'catch and release' in immigration policy:
Capping a week of aggressive rhetoric on immigration and border security, President Donald Trump on Friday evening ordered his administration to double down on ending the so-called "catch and release" of deportable immigrants.

In a memo for the heads of the Departments of State, Defense, Justice, Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services, Trump ordered his officials to prepare a series of reports on further measures they can take to crack down on illegal immigration.

The memo did not prescribe any policy steps to take and largely reiterated demands from executive orders Trump signed in the early days of his presidency, but the move highlights his frustration over Congress' inability to pass any major immigration or border security legislation and lawmakers' continued refusal to fund his border wall outside of a few dozen miles.

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The memo orders a report in 45 days that lays out what the agencies have done and could do to address factors that contribute to the release of immigrants from detention, including building more detention facilities, speeding up and tightening asylum policies, defaulting to detaining immigrants rather than releasing them and exploring the use of military facilities and other types of existing structures for detention.

It orders a report In 75 days on what new powers might be needed and a report in 60 days on what has been done to pressure countries that do not readily take back their citizens who have been deported from the United States.
More base razzle-dazzling.


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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:47 am

NBC News: Mattis OKs up to 4,000 National Guard troops for border

A Pentagon memo says the troops will not be used for law enforcement, and will be armed only if required for self defense.
The Hill: Nevada’s GOP governor: Border duty not ‘an appropriate use' of National Guard


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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:06 am

bob wrote:
Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:50 pm
HuffPo: Trump Signs Memorandum Ending ‘Catch And Release’ Policy:
The president ordered the end of the policy in which undocumented immigrants are released from detention while awaiting a court hearing on their status.

U.S. President Donald Trump signed a memorandum on Friday ordering the end of a policy, known as “catch and release,” in which undocumented immigrants are released from detention while awaiting a court hearing on their status.

As part of the memo, Trump asked Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to produce a list of military facilities that could be used to detain undocumented immigrants.
Lawsuit in 3 ... 2 ...
When nobody get’s released from now on, who will house and feed the migrants? Where will Teh Donald hire that additional staff and train them? Mexicans overlooking Mexicans? PS waiting for the calls to reuse Guantanamo Bay facilities...



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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:19 am

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When will the "militias" start arriving, expecting the National Guard to welcome them, plus provide food and accommodations?



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Post by Azastan » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:55 pm

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:19 am
Off Topic
When will the "militias" start arriving, expecting the National Guard to welcome them, plus provide food and accommodations?
Someone needs to start the rumour that Trump's sending the NG to guard the 'border' is actually a ruse to lure in the militia members so they can be rounded up and sent to FEMA camps.



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Post by Addie » Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:47 pm

ABC News
Trump adviser cites 'alarming' 200 percent increase in attempted US-Mexico border crossings

A White House adviser said an "alarming" increase of more than 200 percent in March of apprehensions people trying to cross into the U.S. from Mexico helped to prompt President Donald Trump's decision to deploy National Guard troops at the border.

“It’s alarming. It’s an over 200 percent increase and we're talking about apprehending over 50,000 people attempting to cross our border in one month,” White House homeland security and counterterrorism adviser Tom Bossert told ABC News Chief Global Affairs Correspondent and co-anchor Martha Raddatz on "This Week” Sunday.

The increase in March 2018 over the same month the year before paints a different picture than other figures from the Department of Homeland Security that show the number of people caught crossing the border illegally in 2017 was the lowest since 1971.

In March, the U.S. apprehended 50,308 unauthorized migrants, the highest number since Trump took office and more than double the same period last year, when the figure was at historic lows.

Bossert said, “A lot of the reporting tends to suggest that because we've seen record lows over the last 40 years on an annual basis, that that's good enough.”
Adding:
AP FACT CHECK: Trump is having it both ways on border policy


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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:31 pm

Addie wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:47 pm
ABC News
Trump adviser cites 'alarming' 200 percent increase in attempted US-Mexico border crossings

:snippity:
Adding:
AP FACT CHECK: Trump is having it both ways on border policy
It's spring time and the weather is getting better to camp outside until a chance for the border crossing shows up, and for the farmer the crops seasons have started. Fresh strawberries for anyone please?



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Post by Azastan » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:32 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:31 pm


It's spring time and the weather is getting better to camp outside until a chance for the border crossing shows up, and for the farmer the crops seasons have started. Fresh strawberries for anyone please?
And a cross-post:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-a ... li=BBnb7Kz

ICE is right there, waiting to pick up those people who would otherwise be working on getting those crops started.



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Post by bob » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:30 pm

Jerry Brown: California Responds to Federal Request for National Guard Personnel:
Pursuant to [the federal government's] request, the California National Guard will accept federal funding to add approximately 400 Guard members statewide to supplement the staffing of its ongoing program to combat transnational crime. This program is currently staffed by 250 personnel statewide, including 55 at the California border.

Your funding for new staffing will allow the Guard to do what it does best: support operations targeting transnational criminal gangs, human traffickers and illegal firearm and drug smugglers along the border, the coast and throughout the state. . . .

But let’s be crystal clear on the scope of this mission. This will not be a mission to build a new wall. It will not be a mission to round up women and children or detain people escaping violence and seeking a better life. And the California National Guard will not be enforcing federal immigration laws.
Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico already took the money to send additional troops.


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Post by tencats » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:49 am

California rejects border duties for National Guard troops
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ASSOCIATED PRESS | April 16, 2018, 11:25AM

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/82294 ... der-duties
SAN DIEGO — California has rejected terms of the federal government's initial plans for sending National Guard troops to the border because the work is considered too closely tied to immigration, two U.S. officials told The Associated Press.

Gov. Jerry Brown elicited rare and effusive praise from President Donald Trump last week for pledging 400 troops to the Guard's third large-scale border mission since 2006. But the Democratic governor conditioned his commitment on troops having nothing to do with immigration enforcement, even in a supporting role.

Brown's announcement last week did not address what specific jobs the California Guard would and would not do and how state officials would distinguish work related to immigration from other aspects of border enforcement, such as fighting criminal gangs and drug and gun smuggling.

Brown's offer of troops for the mission that Trump wants up to 4,000 troops to perform is still in place. But state authorities told federal officials late last week that the California Guard will not perform tasks in an initial rollout planned for all four border states, according to officials with knowledge of the talks who spoke condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.



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Post by Addie » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:39 am

Politico: Trump Ordered Troops to the Border, But They’re Doing Busywork

In this ramshackle town, National Guard soldiers are doing everything from shoveling manure to changing tires. What they’re not doing: Watching the border.


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Post by Turtle » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:02 am

Maybe Sheep Dog needs to go down there and teach them how to find white X's and rape trees.



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