Military Guarding Mexico border

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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:46 am

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Democrats throw spotlight on Trump's troop deployment to U.S.-Mexico border

Democratic Representative Adam Smith, the new chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, will hold a hearing on Tuesday with Pentagon officials he hopes will shed light on the costs, scope and goals of a deployment that critics have derided as a political stunt.

U.S. officials told Reuters the border deployment, which has fluctuated in size over the past three months, could grow again by as many as 2,000 or more troops.

Smith is skeptical about sending U.S. troops to deal with a crisis he believes would be better handled by judges. He told Reuters his committee may consider future funding restrictions for such missions.

“It’s undeniable that we have a significant increase in asylum seekers,” Smith said.

“But that’s not so much a job for the military as it is: we need more judges. We need to process them (the asylum seekers) more quickly,” he said. ...

“What we can do is try to shine a light on it, to make the case that this is a bad idea, drum up public pressure so the president will stop doing these things,” Smith said.
Adding:
Quartz: The US border situation isn’t a national emergency, Pentagon officials tell Congress



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Post by Addie » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:06 pm

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Pentagon announces nearly 4,000 additional troops heading to US-Mexico border

Nearly 4,000 additional U.S. troops will be deployed to the southern border to assist Customs and Border Protection, the Pentagon announced Sunday.

CNN reported that 3,750 troops will head to the border for 90 days to aid in placing razor wire along the border, as well as with mobile surveillance operations. The deployment will bring the number of active-duty forces in the area supporting Customs and Border Protection to roughly 4,350.

The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump tweeted last Thursday that more troops were being sent to the border, but that building a wall would be "soooo much easier and less expensive."



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Post by tek » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 pm

aid in placing razor wire
technically, can the troops actually place the razor wire?

IANAYL, but that seems problematic to me.. but then again, this is all theater..


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Post by Adrianinflorida » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:04 pm

Trump looks at the military as his toy soldiers and toy planes and tanks. He can take them out and play war whenever he wants



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Post by neonzx » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:39 pm

Adrianinflorida wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:04 pm
Trump looks at the military as his toy soldiers and toy planes and tanks. He can take them out and play war whenever he wants
I think this stems from us not allowing him to have his military parade in DC. Payback.


To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:54 pm

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Senate Democrats Try to Cut Off ‘Emergency Funds’ for Trump’s Border Wall

A group of Senate Democrats are aiming to block President Donald Trump from building his proposed border wall by declaring a national emergency – an announcement the president could make as soon as Tuesday during his State of the Union address.

Roughly a dozen Democrats are getting behind a bill, being introduced Monday afternoon, that would prohibit Trump from building the wall using funds drawn from either the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers or the Department of Defense’s military construction accounts.

One of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM), said that Congress must “assert its role as a co-equal branch of government” and block Trump from raiding these accounts—which could contain as much as $35 billion for emergency projects—for a “politically-motivated, unjustified national emergency declaration that isn’t based in reality.”

The bill, which is titled the Restrictions Against Illegitimate Declarations for Emergency Re-Appropriations, or RAIDER, Act, states that “no funds appropriated or otherwise made available prior to the date of the enactment of this Act may be used for the construction of barriers, land acquisition, or any other associated activities on the southern border without specific statutory authorization from Congress.”



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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:20 pm

Federal government to relocate 250 Arizona troops to Texas for caravan
BY KTAR.COM
FEBRUARY 6, 2019 AT 1:15 PM

A caravan of about 1,600 Central American migrants camped Tuesday in the Mexican border city of Piedras Negras, just west of Eagle Pass, Texas. The governor of the northern state of Coahuila described the migrants as "asylum seekers," suggesting all had express intentions of surrendering to U.S. authorities.

PHOENIX — The federal government announced Wednesday that it would relocate approximately 250 troops from Arizona to Texas as a caravan of 1,600 Central American migrants neared the border.

Capt. Bill Speaks with the Department of Defense told KTAR News 92.3 FM in a statement that the troops would move to Eagle Pass, Texas, a town that lies along the Rio Grande.

The military personnel that will be relocated included police, medical personnel and engineers who will man the ports of entry.

“This support is being provided under existing authorities and in accordance with previously approved requests for support,” the statement read.


http://ktar.com/story/2427491/federal-g ... r-caravan/



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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:31 pm

Arizona city officials decry new razor wire on border fence
BY ASSOCIATED PRESS | FEBRUARY 6, 2019 AT 12:35 PM
UPDATED: FEBRUARY 6, 2019 AT 2:17 PM

In this Nov. 7, 2018, photo, U.S. Army troops with the 16th Military Police Brigade install concertina wire atop the U.S.-Mexico border near the Morley pedestrian gate just east of the DeConcini Port of Entry in Nogales, Ariz.

NOGALES, Ariz. — Officials in a small Arizona border city are decrying the installation of new razor wire that now covers the entirety of a tall border wall through downtown.

The city council in Nogales, which sits on the border with Nogales, Mexico, is set to consider a resolution Wednesday night condemning the use of concertina wire. It follows reports that U.S. troops installed more horizontal layers of the wire along the border fence over the weekend.

The vote also comes one day after President Donald Trump made his case to the American people about the need for a border wall to protect the nation and how he has ordered 3,750 troops to prepare for what he called a “tremendous onslaught.”

Concertina wire has become the most visible sign of Trump’s deployment amid anxieties about a Central American caravan around the time of the midterm elections.

Soldiers have installed concertina at or near several official crossings at the border. In late November, U.S. Customs and Border Protection said the military had sent 36 miles (58 kilometers) of concertina for use in California, Arizona, and Texas.

At the start of November, soldiers in Texas installed lines of wire coils below a major bridge near McAllen.

Photos published by the Nogales International newspaper show six rows of concertina wire stacked along the approximately two-story wall.

Nogales, a city of about 20,000 people, is a fraction of the size of its Mexican counterpart, but its economy is largely reliant on Mexican shoppers and cross-border trade. Illegal crossings in that area have dropped steeply in the past several years.


http://ktar.com/story/2427441/arizona-c ... der-fence/



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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:33 pm

How many migrants did climb this section of the border wall prior to the concertina wire ? How many after the initial layering ? Why does the army, more likely the CBP, think it needs piles of wiring like in a war zone?



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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:27 am

New York Times
California Is Expected to Pull National Guard Troops Out of Border Duty

LOS ANGELES — Gov. Gavin Newsom of California is expected on Monday to withdraw nearly 400 of his state’s National Guard troops from deployment along the border with Mexico and assign them to other duties, according to aides to the governor.

The step to rescind state authorization for the border deployment is a sharp rebuke of President Trump’s continued warnings that undocumented migrants present a national security risk to the United States. It follows a similar move last week by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico.

Under a “general order” that Mr. Newsom plans to sign on Monday, 110 California National Guard troops will be redirected to support the state’s central fire agency, Cal Fire, and another 100 will work on statewide “intelligence operations” aimed at international criminal drug gangs.

Mr. Newsom is also seeking to expand the state’s Counterdrug Task Force with 150 National Guard troops, which would require funding from the Department of Defense.

Since his election in November, Mr. Newsom has emphasized a progressive vision for California and the country, pitching his state as a leader on issues like immigration, climate change and income inequality. He promised last month to “offer an alternative to the corruption and incompetence in the White House.”



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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:51 pm

Military Times
Troops do not view immigration as a “national emergency.” Not even close.

Unlike President Donald Trump, troops don’t seem to view either immigration across our southern border or Mexico itself as much of a national-security threat, the results of a recent Military Times poll suggest.

On Friday, Trump declared a national emergency along the U.S. border with Mexico, in order to secure funding for his long-proposed border wall, which Congress has refused to fund. The $8 billion border wall will be partially funded by $3.6 billion meant for military construction. ...

An October Military Times poll of nearly 900 active-duty troops found that 60 percent believed immigration was either a small threat to U.S. national security or no threat at all. Only 23 percent labeled the issue as a significant or very significant threat.

Likewise, 77 percent of respondents viewed Mexico as a small threat or none whatsoever, and only 9 percent described it as a significant or very significant threat.

Much more pressing concerns, in the eyes of troops, included cyberterrorism, Russia and China. White nationalists were also viewed as a greater threat than immigration.



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