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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:46 am

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Democrats throw spotlight on Trump's troop deployment to U.S.-Mexico border

Democratic Representative Adam Smith, the new chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, will hold a hearing on Tuesday with Pentagon officials he hopes will shed light on the costs, scope and goals of a deployment that critics have derided as a political stunt.

U.S. officials told Reuters the border deployment, which has fluctuated in size over the past three months, could grow again by as many as 2,000 or more troops.

Smith is skeptical about sending U.S. troops to deal with a crisis he believes would be better handled by judges. He told Reuters his committee may consider future funding restrictions for such missions.

“It’s undeniable that we have a significant increase in asylum seekers,” Smith said.

“But that’s not so much a job for the military as it is: we need more judges. We need to process them (the asylum seekers) more quickly,” he said. ...

“What we can do is try to shine a light on it, to make the case that this is a bad idea, drum up public pressure so the president will stop doing these things,” Smith said.
Adding:
Quartz: The US border situation isn’t a national emergency, Pentagon officials tell Congress

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Post by Addie » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:06 pm

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Pentagon announces nearly 4,000 additional troops heading to US-Mexico border

Nearly 4,000 additional U.S. troops will be deployed to the southern border to assist Customs and Border Protection, the Pentagon announced Sunday.

CNN reported that 3,750 troops will head to the border for 90 days to aid in placing razor wire along the border, as well as with mobile surveillance operations. The deployment will bring the number of active-duty forces in the area supporting Customs and Border Protection to roughly 4,350.

The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump tweeted last Thursday that more troops were being sent to the border, but that building a wall would be "soooo much easier and less expensive."

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Post by tek » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 pm

aid in placing razor wire
technically, can the troops actually place the razor wire?

IANAYL, but that seems problematic to me.. but then again, this is all theater..
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Post by Adrianinflorida » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:04 pm

Trump looks at the military as his toy soldiers and toy planes and tanks. He can take them out and play war whenever he wants

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Post by neonzx » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:39 pm

Adrianinflorida wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:04 pm
Trump looks at the military as his toy soldiers and toy planes and tanks. He can take them out and play war whenever he wants
I think this stems from us not allowing him to have his military parade in DC. Payback.
To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:54 pm

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Senate Democrats Try to Cut Off ‘Emergency Funds’ for Trump’s Border Wall

A group of Senate Democrats are aiming to block President Donald Trump from building his proposed border wall by declaring a national emergency – an announcement the president could make as soon as Tuesday during his State of the Union address.

Roughly a dozen Democrats are getting behind a bill, being introduced Monday afternoon, that would prohibit Trump from building the wall using funds drawn from either the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers or the Department of Defense’s military construction accounts.

One of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM), said that Congress must “assert its role as a co-equal branch of government” and block Trump from raiding these accounts—which could contain as much as $35 billion for emergency projects—for a “politically-motivated, unjustified national emergency declaration that isn’t based in reality.”

The bill, which is titled the Restrictions Against Illegitimate Declarations for Emergency Re-Appropriations, or RAIDER, Act, states that “no funds appropriated or otherwise made available prior to the date of the enactment of this Act may be used for the construction of barriers, land acquisition, or any other associated activities on the southern border without specific statutory authorization from Congress.”

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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:20 pm

Federal government to relocate 250 Arizona troops to Texas for caravan
BY KTAR.COM
FEBRUARY 6, 2019 AT 1:15 PM

A caravan of about 1,600 Central American migrants camped Tuesday in the Mexican border city of Piedras Negras, just west of Eagle Pass, Texas. The governor of the northern state of Coahuila described the migrants as "asylum seekers," suggesting all had express intentions of surrendering to U.S. authorities.

PHOENIX — The federal government announced Wednesday that it would relocate approximately 250 troops from Arizona to Texas as a caravan of 1,600 Central American migrants neared the border.

Capt. Bill Speaks with the Department of Defense told KTAR News 92.3 FM in a statement that the troops would move to Eagle Pass, Texas, a town that lies along the Rio Grande.

The military personnel that will be relocated included police, medical personnel and engineers who will man the ports of entry.

“This support is being provided under existing authorities and in accordance with previously approved requests for support,” the statement read.


http://ktar.com/story/2427491/federal-g ... r-caravan/

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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:31 pm

Arizona city officials decry new razor wire on border fence
BY ASSOCIATED PRESS | FEBRUARY 6, 2019 AT 12:35 PM
UPDATED: FEBRUARY 6, 2019 AT 2:17 PM

In this Nov. 7, 2018, photo, U.S. Army troops with the 16th Military Police Brigade install concertina wire atop the U.S.-Mexico border near the Morley pedestrian gate just east of the DeConcini Port of Entry in Nogales, Ariz.

NOGALES, Ariz. — Officials in a small Arizona border city are decrying the installation of new razor wire that now covers the entirety of a tall border wall through downtown.

The city council in Nogales, which sits on the border with Nogales, Mexico, is set to consider a resolution Wednesday night condemning the use of concertina wire. It follows reports that U.S. troops installed more horizontal layers of the wire along the border fence over the weekend.

The vote also comes one day after President Donald Trump made his case to the American people about the need for a border wall to protect the nation and how he has ordered 3,750 troops to prepare for what he called a “tremendous onslaught.”

Concertina wire has become the most visible sign of Trump’s deployment amid anxieties about a Central American caravan around the time of the midterm elections.

Soldiers have installed concertina at or near several official crossings at the border. In late November, U.S. Customs and Border Protection said the military had sent 36 miles (58 kilometers) of concertina for use in California, Arizona, and Texas.

At the start of November, soldiers in Texas installed lines of wire coils below a major bridge near McAllen.

Photos published by the Nogales International newspaper show six rows of concertina wire stacked along the approximately two-story wall.

Nogales, a city of about 20,000 people, is a fraction of the size of its Mexican counterpart, but its economy is largely reliant on Mexican shoppers and cross-border trade. Illegal crossings in that area have dropped steeply in the past several years.


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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:33 pm

How many migrants did climb this section of the border wall prior to the concertina wire ? How many after the initial layering ? Why does the army, more likely the CBP, think it needs piles of wiring like in a war zone?

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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:27 am

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California Is Expected to Pull National Guard Troops Out of Border Duty

LOS ANGELES — Gov. Gavin Newsom of California is expected on Monday to withdraw nearly 400 of his state’s National Guard troops from deployment along the border with Mexico and assign them to other duties, according to aides to the governor.

The step to rescind state authorization for the border deployment is a sharp rebuke of President Trump’s continued warnings that undocumented migrants present a national security risk to the United States. It follows a similar move last week by Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico.

Under a “general order” that Mr. Newsom plans to sign on Monday, 110 California National Guard troops will be redirected to support the state’s central fire agency, Cal Fire, and another 100 will work on statewide “intelligence operations” aimed at international criminal drug gangs.

Mr. Newsom is also seeking to expand the state’s Counterdrug Task Force with 150 National Guard troops, which would require funding from the Department of Defense.

Since his election in November, Mr. Newsom has emphasized a progressive vision for California and the country, pitching his state as a leader on issues like immigration, climate change and income inequality. He promised last month to “offer an alternative to the corruption and incompetence in the White House.”

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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:51 pm

Military Times
Troops do not view immigration as a “national emergency.” Not even close.

Unlike President Donald Trump, troops don’t seem to view either immigration across our southern border or Mexico itself as much of a national-security threat, the results of a recent Military Times poll suggest.

On Friday, Trump declared a national emergency along the U.S. border with Mexico, in order to secure funding for his long-proposed border wall, which Congress has refused to fund. The $8 billion border wall will be partially funded by $3.6 billion meant for military construction. ...

An October Military Times poll of nearly 900 active-duty troops found that 60 percent believed immigration was either a small threat to U.S. national security or no threat at all. Only 23 percent labeled the issue as a significant or very significant threat.

Likewise, 77 percent of respondents viewed Mexico as a small threat or none whatsoever, and only 9 percent described it as a significant or very significant threat.

Much more pressing concerns, in the eyes of troops, included cyberterrorism, Russia and China. White nationalists were also viewed as a greater threat than immigration.

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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:54 am

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Trump administration directs 1,000 more troops to Mexican border

The Pentagon announced Friday that it would direct an additional 1,000 troops to the U.S.-Mexico border to install barbed wiring along existing border fences.

Defense officials said at a news briefing that the total size of the U.S. deployment of troops to the southern border would reach 6,000 by March 1, with 140 miles of additional Concertina wiring to be installed.

“That mission has evolved,” a senior defense official said. “We are now transitioning to supporting [areas] between the ports of entry. We’re laying down another 140 miles of concertina wire — [we’re] about 30 percent done with that — as well as providing a ground-based detection and monitoring mission in support of CBP."

"Our numbers right now total are about 5,000. They’ll increase to about 6,000 by March 1," the official added.

The additional 1,000 troops are active-duty and are primarily being sent to support the two missions at the border, the official said.

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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:22 pm

I hope that all that fresh concertina wire is coming from real American produce - I cannot believe that the Army had such big storage facilities for the stuff. I bet there is an emerging market of prayer rugs south of the border that are needed to cross the extra wiring. How many immigrants have been reported to jump the border fence in those areas to be wired?

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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:56 pm

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Gov. Evers withdraws Wisconsin National Guard troops from southern border

MADISON — Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers is ordering the state’s National Guard troops to withdraw from the nation’s southern border and return home.

Former Republican Gov. Scott Walker ordered troops to Arizona in June to assist with administrative duties along the border. Evers, a Democrat, issued an executive order on Monday ordering them to withdraw.

Evers said in a news release announcing the order that about 112 troops are currently serving in Arizona. He said in the release that keeping the borders safe and protecting immigrants seeking asylum is the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol’s job and there’s not enough evidence to support Republican President Donald Trump’s declaration that a national emergency exists along the border.

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Post by Addie » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:15 pm

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Marine Corps commandant says deploying troops to the border poses ‘unacceptable risk’

The commandant of the Marines has warned the Pentagon that deployments to the southwest border and funding transfers under the president's emergency declaration, among other unexpected demands, have posed “unacceptable risk to Marine Corps combat readiness and solvency.”

In two internal memos, Marine Corps Gen. Robert Neller said the “unplanned/unbudgeted” deployment along the border that President Trump ordered last fall, and shifts of other funds to support border security, had forced him to cancel or reduce planned military training in at least five countries, and delay urgent repairs at bases.

The border deployment and funding transfers, as well as recovery costs from hurricanes Florence and Michael, new housing allowances and civilian pay raises, are taking a toll on combat readiness, Neller wrote to Navy Secretary Richard Spencer and Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan. ...

Members of Congress have pressed to learn which military construction projects would be deferred or canceled to divert money that could be used to build Trump’s long-promised border wall under the emergency.

On Monday, the Pentagon sent Congress a list of more than 400 military construction projects around the country and worldwide that could be affected.

The 21-page document cites more than $12.8 billion in projects that could be delayed or canceled under the emergency, including 31 projects totaling $1.1 billion in California.

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Post by Addie » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:01 pm

NBC News: Trump advisers discussed whether military could build and run migrant detention camps

Top Trump advisers met at the White House Tuesday to talk about increasing military involvement at the border, including building tent cities for migrants.

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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:16 pm

Addie wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:01 pm
NBC News: Trump advisers discussed whether military could build and run migrant detention camps

Top Trump advisers met at the White House Tuesday to talk about increasing military involvement at the border, including building tent cities for migrants.
dotus wrote:"I'm going to have to call up more military. Our military, don't forget, can't act like a military would act. Because if they got a little rough, everybody would go crazy. ... Our military can't act like they would normally act. ... They have all these horrible laws that the Democrats won't change. They will not change them."

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Post by Turtle » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:22 pm

Those pesky democrats and their constitutional amendments

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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:56 pm

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Mexican Soldiers Question, Disarm Two U.S. Army Troops in Apparent Confusion About Border Location, Incident Documents Reveal

Two U.S. Army soldiers sat in an unmarked Chevrolet Tahoe owned by U.S. Customs and Border Protection on the west side of an El Paso County, Texas, Colonia known as Las Pampas.

It was April 13, and the Army sergeant and private had set up a hasty observation post north of the Rio Grande River, but south of the border fence in U.S. territory. The soldiers were members of B Battery, 1st Battalion, 37th Field Artillery Regiment, out of Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington.

The unit, part of the southwest border mission President Donald Trump first ordered in October 2018, recently had their deployment extended to September.

At roughly 2:00 p.m. local time, the soldiers observed five to six individuals dressed in green pixelated military camouflage uniforms and carrying weapons, which appeared to be FX-05 Xiuhcoatl, an assault rifle designed and built for the Mexican armed forces.

The armed men swiftly approached the U.S. service members, crossing over from the Mexican side of the Rio Grande River into U.S. territory, ordering the soldiers out of their vehicle at gunpoint.

What transpired on that afternoon of April 13 near the small town of Clint, Texas, underscores the confusion between the physical location of the border fence and where the geographical U.S.-Mexico border begins and ends.

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Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:03 pm

Volkonski wrote:
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PayPal and GoFundMe have cut off the United Constitutional Patriots.
:-D

Crowdfunding Sites Have Cut Off An Armed Militia Detaining Migrants At The Border

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sa ... ain-paypal
On Friday, the militia was notified that both their PayPal and GoFundMe campaigns had been shut down for violating the crowdfunding sites' policy on the promotion of hate or violence, and in at least one instance allegedly using the funds to buy firearms. Cheney denied that the group used donations to purchase weapons.

"The account associated with United Constitutional Patriots has been closed due to a violation of our Acceptable Use Policy," a PayPal spokesperson told BuzzFeed News in a statement. "We do not allow PayPal services to be used to promote hate, violence, or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory."

That decision, Cheney said, dealt a significant blow to the group's operations in a remote area near the southern border, where costs can quickly add up.
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Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:10 pm

FBI arrests alleged member of armed group stopping migrants in New Mexico
"The rule of law should be in the hands of trained law enforcement officials, not armed vigilantes," New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas said.


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Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, of Flora Vista, New Mexico, was arrested for allegedly being a felon in possession of a weapon, New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas and the FBI said.

The arrest comes after New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, a Democrat, demanded that members of a militia group, some of whom are armed, stop detaining migrants at the New Mexico-Mexico border.

Balderas said in a statement that Hopkins is "a member of the armed group of individuals reportedly detaining migrants near Sunland Park, New Mexico."

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The FBI Albuquerque division said that Hopkins, who is also known as Johnny Horton Jr., was arrested with the assistance of the Sunland Park Police Department
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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:21 pm

Good :thumbs:

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Post by Lorain » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:27 am

This is a list of past and present army units whose names include the word guard. Border guards, coast guards, Home Guards, national guards, honour guards, republican guards, and royal guards are listed under their own articles. See also Presidential Guard (disambiguation) and Red Guards (disambiguation).

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Post by Addie » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:06 am

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Trump’s angry tweet about a common border incident prompts a Mexican investigation ...

Then there is President Trump’s version.

“Mexico’s Soldiers recently pulled guns on our National Guard Soldiers, probably as a diversionary tactic for drug smugglers on the Border,” he tweeted early Wednesday.

He went on: “Better not happen again! We are now sending ARMED SOLDIERS to the Border.” ...

In separate statements, officials of both Mexico and the United States described the incident as a misunderstanding that was quickly corrected — and made no mention of weapons being drawn or any link to drug smuggling.

Mexican military members confronted two U.S. soldiers driving on U.S. territory “in a zone where the limits of the border are not clear,” Mexico’s foreign ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.

The incident was “common … [and] without consequences for both governments, which maintain permanent and fluid communication,” the statement said.

After a “brief discussion” between soldiers from the two countries, the Mexican military members “departed the area,” Maj. Mark R. Lazane, a U.S. military spokesman, said in a statement. “Though they were south of the border fence, U.S. soldiers remained in U.S. territory, north of the actual border.”

U.S. border fences and barriers are often situated somewhat north of the actual international boundary line.

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Post by Addie » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:51 pm

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Pentagon set to expand military role along southern border

The Pentagon is preparing to loosen rules that bar troops from interacting with migrants entering the United States, expanding the military’s involvement in President Trump’s operation along the southern border.

Senior Defense Department officials have recommended that acting defense secretary Patrick Shanahan approve a new request from the Department of Homeland Security to provide military lawyers, cooks and drivers to assist with handling a surge of migrants along the southern border.

The move would require authorizing waivers for about 300 troops to a long-standing policy prohibiting military personnel from coming into contact with migrants.

The Pentagon has approved only one previous request to waive the policy since the beginning of Trump’s recent border buildup, in order to provide migrants with emergency medical care if required. There are about 2,900 active-duty and 2,000 National Guard troops along the border.

Shanahan is expected to sign the request on Friday.

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