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Post by Till Eulenspiegel » Mon May 07, 2018 1:01 am

You may have a slip of the tongue when you say "grams " and mean "milligrams ". Mr. Üzümcü spoke of "cups " of liquid, though . Seems to be clueless in this field.


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Post by RTH10260 » Tue May 29, 2018 9:49 pm

Sergei Skripal discharged from Salisbury hospital
Russia demands access to poisoned former spy and daughter to ensure they do not want help

Steven Morris and Patrick Wintour
Fri 18 May 2018 15.37 BST First published on Fri 18 May 2018 10.32 BST

Moscow has demanded a meeting with Sergei Skripal, the Russian former spy poisoned by a nerve agent in Salisbury, following his discharge from hospital.

Vladimir Putin said he was pleased Skripal had been released from hospital on Friday, more than 10 weeks after the poisoning, and wished him well.

“God grant him good health,” the Russian president said. “If a military-grade poison had been used, the man would have died on the spot. Thank God he recovered and that he left [hospital].”

Russia’s ambassador to London, Alexander Yakovenko, also welcomed Skripal’s release, but claimed the UK would be breaking international law if it did not allow access to him and his daughter, Yulia, who was also poisoned and was discharged last month.

Yakovenko said nobody actually knew if the pair were alive and suggested that, if they were, they may have already left the country. Scotland Yard made clear that no details of the security arrangements for the pair would be given.

Salisbury district hospital announced on Friday morning that Skripal had been discharged.

The chief executive, Cara Charles-Barks, said it was good news that Skripal was well enough to be discharged.



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Post by RTH10260 » Tue May 29, 2018 9:54 pm

We didn’t expect Skripals to survive, says Salisbury poisoning doctor
Hospital staff recall moment ex-spy and daughter were rushed in for emergency care

Caroline Davies
Tue 29 May 2018 00.01 BST Last modified on Tue 29 May 2018 18.27 BST

A hospital consultant who treated the former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, for exposure to the military nerve agent novichok did not initially think the two would survive, he has revealed.

Staff at Salisbury district hospital have described the extraordinary situation they faced when the Skripals were brought in for emergency care after being found unconscious on a bench in the town after their attempted assassination on 4 March.

Doctors said there was concern over the potential scale of the incident and if more casualties would be admitted as a result of contamination.

Dr Stephen Jukes, an intensive care consultant, told BBC2’s Newsnight in an interview to be broadcast on Tuesday: “When we first were aware this was a nerve agent, we were expecting them not to survive. We would try all our therapies. We would ensure the best clinical care. But all the evidence was there that they would not survive.”

On admission, the medical team suspected both were experiencing an opioid overdose, but that diagnosis quickly changed to a nerve agent poisoning.

Dr Duncan Murray, the head of intensive care, recalled his shock as he spoke to the nurse in charge, “and it was this conversation I really could never have imagined in my wildest imagination having with anyone”.


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Post by vic » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:55 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eu ... story.html
British police: 2 people critical near poisoned spy town

By Associated Press
July 4 at 2:53 AM

LONDON — British police have declared a “major incident” after two people were exposed to an unknown substance in a town near where a former Russian spy and his daughter were poisoned with nerve agent.

In a statement, the Wiltshire Police forces say a man and a woman — both in their 40s — are in critical condition after being found in Amesbury, eight miles (13 kilometers) from Salisbury, where Sergei and Yulia Skripal were poisoned on March 4.

Police on Wednesday were cordoning off places the people visited before falling ill, but public health officials say there is not believed to be a wider risk. They were hospitalized Saturday for suspected drug overdoses.

Britain accuses Russia of poisoning the Skripals with a Novichok nerve agent. Moscow denies the allegation. The poisoning sparked a Cold War-style diplomatic crisis between Russia and the West, including the expulsion of hundreds of diplomats from both sides.

The statement from Wiltshire Police came only a month after police from 40 departments in England and Wales returned to their home assignments after months of working on the Skripals’ poisoning. The Wiltshire Police force spent about 7.5 million pounds ($10 million) dealing with the aftermath of the Skripals’ poisoning and believe that his front door was contaminated with the nerve agent.
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Post by Lani » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:23 pm



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"The two people have been exposed to the nerve agent Novichok" - UK police give update on man and woman found unconscious in Amesbury, Wiltshire http://bbc.in/2MKlKNd pic.twitter.com/fD29Z8T0kl


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Post by Lani » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:29 pm

From the BBC link - there doesn't seem to be a link between the two groups who have been poisoned. "The most likely hypothesis is that this is leftover Novichok from the attack on the Skripals back in March.

"Perhaps this is some of the Novichok prepared for the attack and discarded: maybe somewhere like a park, a house, and maybe these two came across it."


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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:03 am

after first statements of police spoke of addicts and overdose
Amesbury poisoning: Minister appeals for Russia to 'fill in clues' as couple fall victim to Novichok used in Salisbury
Charles Rowley, 45, and his girlfriend, Dawn Sturgess, 44, became unwell with similar symptoms to the Skripals

Danny Boyle Martin Evans, crime correspondent Patrick Sawer, senior reporter
5 JULY 2018 • 11:54AM

Russia could "fill in all the clues to keep people safe", the security minister has said, after a couple were poisoned by the same nerve agent used in the Salisbury attack.

Charles Rowley, 45, and his 44-year-old girlfriend, Dawn Sturgess, are critically ill after being exposed to Novichok, tests carried out at the Porton Down defence laboratory have confirmed.

It is the same nerve agent used against Sergei Skripal, the 66-year-old former Russian spy, and his daughter Yulia, 33, in a suspected Russian-backed assassination attempt in Salisbury in March.


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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:06 am

suspicion that prior cleanup may have missed something
Amesbury Novichok poisoning raises ‘serious questions’ over Salisbury clean-up

Confirmation two people have been poisoned with Novichok in Wiltshire will raise “serious questions” over the orchestration of a massive clean-up operation launched in the wake of the Skripal incident, a Government source has said.

The ongoing decontamination of a number of sites around Salisbury, reported to have cost millions of pounds so far, was launched after Sergei and Yulia Skripal were found slumped on a bench in the city centre on March 4.

Police have said there is no evidence that either of the latest victims, named locally as Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley, had recently visited any of the sites that were part of the original clean-up.

However a senior Government source told the Press Association the development would raise “serious questions of the oversight and choosing of the (clean-up) sites and how this was handled”.


http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-05/ames ... -clean-up/



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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:33 am

Conspiracy thoughts:
(1) the pair accidentially stumbled over the discarded container of the prior poisoning.
(2) the pair is an undetected undercover operatives for some dark power and needed to be silcenced
(3) same as (2) but they were they were directly responsible for the prior poisoning

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Post by Lani » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:50 pm

Novichok: Murder inquiry after Dawn Sturgess dies

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-44760875
Her partner remains critically ill.

It's been confirmed that they touched a contaminated item with their hands.


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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:56 pm

Dawn Sturgess, British Woman Poisoned by Nerve Agent, Dies

By Ellen Barry July 8, 2018

LONDON — A 44-year-old British woman who was exposed to a nerve agent died on Sunday, bringing new urgency to a four-month-old diplomatic standoff in which Britain has accused Russia of sending the poison to a small city in southern England in a botched attempt to kill a former spy.

The British authorities have now opened a murder investigation.

“Today is the day we hoped would never come,” said Chief Constable Kier Pritchard of the Wiltshire Police.

The police say the woman, Dawn Sturgess, 44, was most likely exposed accidentally to residue from a Soviet-developed, military-grade nerve agent used in a March attack on the former spy, Sergei V. Skripal. He lived near Ms. Sturgess in Salisbury.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/worl ... sbury.html
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Post by Lani » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:51 pm

AFP news agency

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#BREAKING British police say found 'small bottle' containing Novichok, the nerve agent used against former Russian agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter in Salisbury in March

6:16 AM - Jul 13, 2018

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#UPDATE The bottle containing the Soviet-made nerve agent was found in the home of one of two Britons who fell ill from the substance in Junehttp://u.afp.com/om85

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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:50 pm

Novichok poisoning: Russian suspects in Skripal attack sent coded message saying 'The package has been delivered'

Telegraph Reporters
19 JULY 2018 • 7:12AM

Russian agents responsible for the Novichok poisonings in Salisbury sent a coded message to Moscow which included the phrase, "The package has been delivered", it was claimed last night.

A British intelligence listening station based in Cyprus, allegedly picked up the message shortly after former Russian double agent, Sergei Skripal, and his daughter, Yulia, were attacked in March.

The coded dispatch helped cement suspicions that it was the Russian state behind the attempted assassination, before counter terror police using facial recognition technology and CCTV images were able to identify those responsible.

It is believed the perpetrators flew back to Russia shortly after carrying out the hit, travelling to London from Salisbury by train.

The Telegraph reported in April that key suspects had been identified. following the attack.

Police are now exploring the theory that the assassins discarded a glass bottle containing traces of Novichok in Queen Elizabeth Gardens in the centre of Salisbury, which was discovered three months later by local couple Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... v-cameras/



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Post by RVInit » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:20 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:50 pm
Novichok poisoning: Russian suspects in Skripal attack sent coded message saying 'The package has been delivered'

Telegraph Reporters
19 JULY 2018 • 7:12AM

Russian agents responsible for the Novichok poisonings in Salisbury sent a coded message to Moscow which included the phrase, "The package has been delivered", it was claimed last night.

A British intelligence listening station based in Cyprus, allegedly picked up the message shortly after former Russian double agent, Sergei Skripal, and his daughter, Yulia, were attacked in March.

The coded dispatch helped cement suspicions that it was the Russian state behind the attempted assassination, before counter terror police using facial recognition technology and CCTV images were able to identify those responsible.

It is believed the perpetrators flew back to Russia shortly after carrying out the hit, travelling to London from Salisbury by train.

The Telegraph reported in April that key suspects had been identified. following the attack.

Police are now exploring the theory that the assassins discarded a glass bottle containing traces of Novichok in Queen Elizabeth Gardens in the centre of Salisbury, which was discovered three months later by local couple Dawn Sturgess and Charlie Rowley.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... v-cameras/
This is a great article with links to more information about the whole ordeal. Very interesting.


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Post by Whatever4 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:09 am

Is there a Russian Young Girl Spy type requirement? :think:
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Post by Lani » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:44 pm

Novichok victim found substance disguised as perfume in sealed box
The British man poisoned with the nerve agent novichok has claimed the substance that killed his girlfriend and left him critically ill came in a bottle disguised as a legitimate perfume in a sealed box.

Charlie Rowley claimed his partner, mother-of-three Dawn Sturgess, fell ill within 15 minutes of spraying the bottle, which he said he had found, on to her wrists at his home in Amesbury, Wiltshire.

In his first interview since he was discharged from hospital, Rowley told ITV News: “I do have a memory of her spraying it on her wrists and rubbing them together.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... lie-rowley


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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:10 am

Lani wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:44 pm
Novichok victim found substance disguised as perfume in sealed box

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... lie-rowley
Interesting to note that nobody is speaking about finding said perfume bottle in the house where the lady used it just minutes before falling ill. Is this part of the spy game?



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Post by vic » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:04 am

RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:10 am
Lani wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:44 pm
Novichok victim found substance disguised as perfume in sealed box

:snippity:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... lie-rowley
Interesting to note that nobody is speaking about finding said perfume bottle in the house where the lady used it just minutes before falling ill. Is this part of the spy game?
And curiously, the BBC had an article back on July 6 which said:
:snippity: Investigators, led by the Met Police's counter-terrorism detectives, are working on the basis that the pair - now critically ill from Novichok poisoning - handled a contaminated item that caught their interest.

They need to find it.

The item - or possibly items - are thought to be something found and touched by the pair, possibly something as innocuous as a perfume bottle or other luxury toiletry.

The search for this "source item" is likely to be extensive, painstaking and could last through the summer.
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Prescient? Or, as you say, the spy game?



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Post by Lani » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:43 am

Rowley said he had found a sealed box in a cellophane wrapper containing a perfume bottle some days before he and Sturgess fell ill, and had kept it at his home in Amesbury, eight miles north of Salisbury, before handing it to his partner of two years as a gift.

He said he was struggling to remember where he had originally found the item but was convinced it was legitimate, as it looked like it hadn’t been used, “Which made me think it was quite safe,” he said.

Rowley also said it was a perfume that Sturgess recognised. “It’s very strange. It’s quite scary to think that something can be disguised in that manner and left to be found in public.
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He felt the burden of responsibility, but attacked whoever left the bottle of novichok lying around in public. “I think it was very irresponsible for people to leave the poison for anybody to pick up. It could have been children. It was just so unfortunate. I’m very angry at the whole incident,” he said.
Rowley has talked about finding the wrapped bottle, although he can't remember where. The Guardian article is linked above.

Other sources have claimed he's a bit of a dumpster diver/junk collector.


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Post by Addie » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:16 pm

Politico Mag
How Silicon Valley Became a Den of Spies

The West Coast is a growing target of foreign espionage. And it’s not ready to fight back. ...


We tend to think of espionage in the United States as an East Coast phenomenon: shadowy foreign spies working out of embassies in Washington, or at missions to the United Nations in New York; dead drops in suburban Virginia woodlands, and surreptitious meetings on park benches in Manhattan’s gray dusk.

But foreign spies have been showing up uninvited, to San Francisco and Silicon Valley for a very long time. According to former U.S. intelligence officials, that’s true today more than ever. In fact, they warn—especially because of increasing Russian and Chinese aggressiveness, and the local concentration of world-leading science and technology firms—there’s a full-on epidemic of espionage on the West Coast right now. And even more worrisome, many of its targets are unprepared to deal with the growing threat.

Unlike on the East Coast, foreign intel operations here aren’t as focused on the hunt for diplomatic secrets, political intelligence or war plans. The open, experimental, cosmopolitan work and business culture of Silicon Valley in particular has encouraged a newer, “softer,” “nontraditional” type of espionage, said former intelligence officials—efforts that mostly target trade secrets and technology. “It’s a very subtle form of intelligence collection that is more business connected and oriented,” one told me. But this economic espionage is also ubiquitous. Spies “are very much part of the everyday environment” here, said this person. Another former intelligence official told me that, at one point recently, a full 20 percent of all the FBI’s active counterintelligence-related intellectual property cases had originated in the Bay Area. (The FBI declined to comment for this story.) ...

And yet, it’s not clear that the Bay Area—historically famous for its liberalism, and now infamous for its madcap capitalism—is prepared to handle this escalation and these new tactics. Tech firms, especially start-ups, lack incentives to report potential espionage to U.S. officials; and businesses and universities are often ignorant about the espionage threat, or so attuned to local political sensitivities they may fear being accused of stereotyping if they attempt to institute more stringent defensive security and screening measures.

As Silicon Valley continues to take over the world, the local spy war will only get hotter—and the consequences will resonate far beyond Northern California. This story is based on extensive conversations with more than half a dozen former intelligence community officials with direct knowledge of, or experience with, U.S. counterintelligence activities in the Bay Area. All requested anonymity to discuss sensitive matters more openly. A few other individuals, all of whom worked counterintelligence in the Bay Area from the early 1970s through the mid-2000s, agreed to be interviewed on the record.


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