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[link]Associated Press,http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe ... story.html[/link]





A lot at stake for Russia in battle for Ukraine





MOSCOW (AP) — Russia’s vigorous efforts to keep Ukraine within its orbit of influence stem from complex strategic, emotional and cultural issues. As the prospect of Ukraine signing an association agreement with the European Union wanes and Kiev focuses on improving ties with Moscow, here’s a look at some of the issues at play: ...





FEAR OF WESTERN EXPANSION





President Vladimir Putin saw Ukraine’s 2004 Orange Revolution as a Western plot to expand into Russia’s historic turf. Putin has also criticized the proposed political association and free trade deal between the EU and Ukraine as yet another attempt to encroach on what Russia sees as its traditional sphere of influence. He has accused the EU of ‘‘pressure and blackmail’’ of Ukraine.





As Kiev intensified talks with the EU in recent months, Russia restricted imports of Ukrainian goods, such as steel and chocolates, which Azarov claims have reduced this year’s exports by $6.5 billion. Russia has also warned it would slap higher taxes on all Ukrainian exports it the country joins the EU.





If Ukraine signs the EU deal despite Russia’s stumbling blocks, it would represent a big blow to Putin.





MAJOR CONDUIT FOR GAS SUPPLIES TO THE WEST





Ukraine serves as the main conduit for Russia’s natural gas exports to Europe, and the pricing disputes between the two countries have led to shutdowns in many parts of the continent.
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Post by mimi » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:28 pm

I thought they decided last week.I thought they went with Putin.

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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:37 pm

Delayed, not yet decided, Mims.





[link]BBC News,http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25100127[/link]





Russia urged Kiev to delay key EU deal - Ukrainian PM





Russia had urged Kiev to delay signing a key deal with the EU, Ukraine's prime minister has admitted, as mass protest rallies continue across the country.





Mykola Azarov said Moscow had offered to hold trilateral talks on the issue, without giving "any ultimatums".





Kiev last week put on hold the association and free trade deal with the EU, prompting Brussels to accuse Moscow of exerting pressure on Ukraine.





The move triggered huge pro-EU protests in Kiev and other Ukrainian cities.





Russian President Vladimir Putin has denied putting any pressure on Kiev, accusing instead the EU of "blackmailing" Ukraine into signing the agreement.But sounded pretty decided to me, too:





Ukraine's government said last Thursday it was halting preparations for signing the deal with the EU, amid concerns this would have a negative impact on Kiev's trade relations with Russia and cause mass job losses as a result.The protests are having an impact.
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Post by Addie » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:13 am

[link]Reuters,http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/ ... DZ20131127[/link]





Five years after war, Georgia defies Russia over Europe





(Reuters) - Five years after it fought a war with Russia, Georgia is preparing to defy its former Soviet masters again by initialing an accord on strengthening ties with Europe.





New Prime Minister Irakly Garibashvili is toughing it out just a week after another former Soviet republic, Ukraine, bowed to pressure from Moscow and suspended plans to strike a similar deal with the European Union.





The South Caucasus country's economy is much smaller than Ukraine's but it is important to the EU because it hosts pipelines that carry Caspian gas and oil to Europe. ...





Like Ukraine, Georgia is trying to strike a balance between East and West but finding it hard to strengthen ties with Europe without upsetting Russia.





Moscow is anxious to maintain its influence over states it dominated during Soviet times, especially those with energy pipelines and significant ethnic Russian communities.
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Post by mimi » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:48 pm

a lot of stuff happening. :-? [/break1]com/ChristopherJM]https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:26 pm

Ukrainians who are pro-Europe are seeking to topple the statue of Lenin. Putin has threatened and browbeaten Ukraine's president and now seeks to seduce him with promises of financial aid (and a curtailment of the trade war Putin imposed) to keep Ukraine from joining the European Community on some basis.

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Post by mimi » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:41 pm

I thought when I got back, Lenin would have been toppled. But he still stands. :-? You can see one attempt in this video, at about 2:15[/break1]com/ChristopherJM]https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM

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Ukraine PM warns protesters as delegation seeks financial help in Moscow





(Reuters) - Ukraine's prime minister warned protesters trying to blockade government buildings on Wednesday they would be punished for any "illegal acts", as officials went to Moscow seeking aid to avoid a financial meltdown.





Meeting the Ukrainian delegation, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said their country needed "stability and order", in the two sides' first high-level talks since Kiev pulled out of a planned trade alliance with the European Union, provoking mass protests.





Prime minister Mykola Azarov also accused the opposition of trying to provoke violence, and tension remained high in Kiev with protesters confronting ranks of black-helmeted riot police in front of President Viktor Yanukovich's main offices after his government's U-turn in trade policy back towards Russia. ...





Beijing has already provided Ukraine $10 billion in loans, but Kiev needs billions more next year for gas bills and debt repayments. China's foreign ministry made a noncommittal response to a query whether Beijing would provide any more aid to Ukraine.
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Post by Addie » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:27 pm

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Three post-Soviet Ukrainian presidents support protests





Ukraine's three post-Soviet former presidents have voiced their support for the mass protests raging in Kiev against the government's decision to reject a historic pact with Europe.





"We express solidarity with the peaceful civic actions of hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians," said a statement from Leonid Kravchuk, Leonid Kuchma and Viktor Yushchenko, and posted on Mr Yushchenko's party website.





"For the first time, the Ukrainian people have come out on the streets with an apolitical demand that has unprecedented mass support," said the statement.





It condemned "the excessive use of (police force) against peaceful demonstrators" and called on all sides to refrain from further violence.
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Post by Addie » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:45 pm

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Ukrainian protesters want more rules, less corruption





MOSCOW — Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian protesters filled the streets of Kiev on Sunday, toppling and decapitating a statute of Bolshevik leader Vladi­mir Lenin and insisting that President Viktor Yanukovych heed their demands for closer ties with Europe and a government that listens to its people.





Nearly three weeks of demonstrations on the cold streets of Ukraine’s capital city — the largest since the country’s Orange Revolution in 2004 — have hardened and inspired the protesters. At first they simply wanted Yanukovych to sign a European trade agreement as he had been promising. Now they want a new country.





Not only is that a formidable goal, but the demonstrators also represent very different groups. They share a general ambition for a Ukraine free of corruption, ruled by law, with honest elections and politicians. But they have very different political convictions, from liberal to far right, and don’t have leaders who appear capable of uniting them. ...





In the evening, when the crowd toppled and beheaded the Lenin statue on Kiev’s main avenue, police watched but made no attempt to stop them. After singing the national anthem, protesters shouted, “Yanukovych, you’re next!” Opposition leaders said they were not involved in the destruction of the statue.
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Post by Addie » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:17 pm

[link]New York Times,http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/world ... .html?_r=0[/link]





Ukraine Leader Calls for Talks With Protesters





KIEV, Ukraine — Even as Ukraine’s besieged president on Monday said he would be open to talks with protest leaders, the situation on Kiev’s streets took on an ominous tone, with security forces raiding an opposition party’s headquarters and beginning to push on the edges of a continuing mass demonstration.





After seeming to lose control of Kiev on Sunday night following a huge rally of hundreds of thousands of people in Independence Square, police forces redeployed on Monday and began efforts to push protesters out of streets near main government buildings. Battalions of police officers moved in and took up positions just outside the square’s perimeter.





Then, early Monday evening, the Ukrainian security service raided the headquarters of the opposition Fatherland Party and seized computer servers.





The party’s parliamentary leader, Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, is one of the main organizers of the protest movement, which has ballooned in recent days to dominate the streets of Kiev and pressure President Viktor F. Yanukovich after he refused to sign a trade deal with the European Union. But the party is best known as the opposition coalition formed by the jailed former prime minister, Yulia V. Tymoshenko, whose release has long been demanded by Western leaders.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:21 pm

Maybe Taitz, with all of her skills, can offer to mediate the dispute?

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Post by Flatpointhigh » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:16 pm

Well, she does appear to love her Old Homeland more than America.

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Post by Addie » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:25 am

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Ashton: Ukraine 'Intends to Sign' Agreement with EU





European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton says Ukraine's President Viktor Yanukovych "intends to sign" a trade and cooperation agreement with the EU that he rejected last month, setting off massive anti-government protests.





Ashton spoke to reporters in Brussels Thursday, after holding talks with Yanukovych in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv. She said it is clear that the short-term economic and financial issues Ukraine faces can be alleviated by signing the association agreement, bringing in fresh investment from EU nations.





"Look, Yanukovych made it clear to me that he intends to sign the association agreement," she told reporters. "What he talked about were the short-term economic issues that the country faces. And it is my view that those challenges, which are real, can be addressed by the support that not only comes from the European Union institutions, but actually by showing that he has a serious economic plan in signing the association agreement also will help to bring in the kind of investment that he needs."





Meanwhile, anti-government protests continue, with demonstrators calling for closer ties with the European Union. ...





In Washington, The Pentagon said U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel spoke by telephone with his Ukrainian counterpart, Defense Minister Pavlo Lebedyev. He said Hagel called for calm and warned the Ukrainian minister against using the country's armed forces against its civilian population.
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Post by Addie » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:45 am

[link]New York Times,http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/world ... ted=1&_r=0[/link]





Signs of Momentum Shifting to Protesters in Ukraine





KIEV, Ukraine — Two large, swirling crowds faced off in Kiev on Saturday in public squares less than a quarter of a mile apart. One was the huge, antigovernment, pro-Europe demonstration that has electrified this capital since late last month. The other was composed of tens of thousands who poured into central Kiev for a counter rally in support of the embattled president, Viktor F. Yanukovich.





By evening, the pro-government crowd had disappeared for the night, leaving the police guarding a virtually empty plaza. The antigovernment protesters in Independence Square, by comparison, were revving up, waiting with excitement for a performance by one of Ukraine’s most popular rock bands ahead of another night out in the cold.





The contrast was one of several signals that momentum in the uprising over the president’s refusal to sign political and trade accords with the European Union might be shifting.





After weeks in which Mr. Yanukovich — and Russian opponents of the accords — appeared to have the upper hand, there were signs that the president was no longer so sure of himself.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:50 am

How can two crowds face off against each other a quarter mile away from each other.

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Post by Volkonski » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:12 pm

How can two crowds face off against each other a quarter mile away from each other.Skype. ;)
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EU suspends trade talks with Ukraine, crowds rally against government





(Reuters) - The European Union said on Sunday it was halting work on a landmark trade and political pact with Ukraine, hardening their rift even as tens of thousands took to the streets of Kiev urging President Viktor Yanukovich to mend ties with Brussels.





EU enlargement chief Stefan Fuele said on Twitter the words and deeds of Yanukovich and his government on the deal were "further and further apart".





His announcement came as 200,000 people braved sub-zero temperatures in Kiev to rally for the fourth weekend in a row against Yanukovich's decision not to sign the EU pact at a summit last month and concentrate instead on closer ties with Russia.





The EU had kept its offer on the table but Fuele said on Sunday the Ukrainian government's subsequent arguments on the terms of the deal had "no grounds in reality". "Work on hold," he added.





Fuele's words suggested the EU has lost patience with Kiev's demands for financial aid and was irritated at the way the bloc was being forced to take part in a 'bidding war' with Russia over Ukraine.
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"Unrest in Kiev has entered its fifth day as protesters pelt police cordons with stones and Molotov cocktails, and police retaliate with flash grenades and rubber bullets. Over two hundred protesters and police have been injured in violent clashes."[/break1]com/news/kiev-protest-clashes-updates-862/]http://rt.com/news/kiev-protest-clashes ... vpV.jpgJon Williams ‏@WilliamsJonApocalypse now. Another astonishing photo from #Kiev. Hard to see how either side in #Ukraine can walk things back.[/break1]com/WilliamsJon/status/426091902958837760/photo/1]https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/status/ ... 60/photo/1Robert A. Caruso‏@robertcarusoif you're asking, "but Rob, why are you posting pictures from a video game cover?" I'm notthis is really #Kiev pic.twitter.com/f0MVUkwTvj[/break1]com/robertcaruso/status/426142933524291584/photo/1]https://twitter.com/robertcaruso/status ... 84/photo/1bigger image of same photo here: [/break1]redflagnews.com/headlines/live-video-kiev-protests-city-burning-open-fighting-in-streets#sthash.0O7km8Om.dpbs]http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/li ... km8Om.dpbs[thumbnail]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BepZyuZIMAAogAW.jpg[/thumbnail]Anis‏@TheBlogPirateAnother crazy pic from the protests in #Kiev. #Euromaidan pic.twitter.com/YU6umW1DKe[/break1]com/TheBlogPirate/status/426251842847522816/photo/1]https://twitter.com/TheBlogPirate/statu ... 16/photo/1https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BepdzMVIQAAMWYo.jpgBlaz Umek‏@BlazUmekCandidate for a picture of the year. #Kiev pic.twitter.com/nUrI14cP1d[/break1]com/BlazUmek/status/426256248892571648/photo/1] ... 48/photo/1https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BenJksXCAAAfY5S.jpg[/break1]com/Yes_Yes_Karina/status/426093271975067648/photo/1]https://twitter.com/Yes_Yes_Karina/stat ... 48/photo/1https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BepjNX7IUAAQY47.jpg[/break1]com/TheBlogPirate/status/426262196273041408/photo/1]https://twitter.com/TheBlogPirate/statu ... 08/photo/1
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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:20 pm

[link]BBC News,http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26019790[/link]





Russia warns Ukraine opposition as protests continue





Russia has urged Ukrainian opposition leaders to end their campaign of "ultimatums and threats" and to step up negotiations with the government.





Russia's foreign ministry said Moscow was concerned by activists' attempts to "inflame" the situation.





Protesters in Kiev have repeated their calls for the resignation of President Viktor Yanukovych, who is now back at work after four days of illness.





The EU and US are considering a big loan to help debt-laden Ukraine.Sidebar: Analysis





Western officials for the most part have followed a policy of reaction in dealing with events in Ukraine, ever since President Viktor Yanukovych's surprise cancellation of landmark agreement with the EU unleashed the anti-government Euromaidan movement.





Now, however, Washington and Brussels seem to have taken the initiative. A prospective joint EU-US financial aid package, announced in the Wall Street Journal, is intended to encourage reforms and a peaceful resolution in the country's protracted political standoff.
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Post by Addie » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:44 am

[link]New York Times,http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/world ... .html?_r=0[/link]





Mayhem Grips Ukrainian Capital, Shattering Calm





KIEV, Ukraine — Mayhem gripped the center of the Ukrainian capital on Tuesday as riot police broke through barricades on the outer rim of a protest encampment and, pelted with rocks and fireworks, massed on the edge of Independence Square, the focal point of more than two months of protests against President Viktor F. Yanukovych. There were unconfirmed reports that three protesters had been killed.





The police advance followed hours of pitched street battles that destroyed hopes of an early political settlement, stirred in recent days by an amnesty deal. The resumed violence underscored the volatility of a political crisis that not only aroused fear of civil war in Ukraine but dragged Russia and the West into a geopolitical struggle redolent of the Cold War.





The violence began early on Tuesday when antigovernment activists moved out of their barricaded zone around Independence Square and advanced into a government-controlled district, battling riot police with stones and Molotov cocktails in the worst clashes in nearly a month. A group of young militants occupied and set fire to the headquarters of the ruling Party of Regions.





“We have no other way,” said Lena Melniko, a 33-year-old accountant who joined a team of protesters digging up paving stones and passing them on to helmeted fighters to throw at police, “We have been protesting for three months but are stuck in dead end,” she added, seemingly oblivious to the deafening din of percussion grenades fired by police.
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Post by Addie » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:18 pm

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Ukraine protests live updates: Armoured vehicles move into Kiev as 28 people are killed in violent demonstrations





The US state department has issued a travel warning which says that there has been "a sharp escalation in violence between protesters and police" in Ukraine.





The statement says groups of young men have attacked journalists and protesters and committed other random acts of violence in Kiev and other cities.





It adds: "The situation in Ukraine is unpredictable and could change quickly.





"Further violent clashes between police and protesters in Kyiv and other cities are possible.





"The location and nature of demonstrations and methods employed by the police can change quickly and without warning.





"Protest sites have drawn large crowds, and protesters have blocked roads in Kyiv and other cities and may do so again."
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The GuardianVerified account‏@guardianGuardian front page, Wednesday 19 February 2014 – Kiev crackdown: 18 dead as protest camp burns https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgzIMEKCIAAr3Ih.jpg[/break1]com/guardian/status/435943373539516416/photo/1] ... 16/photo/1Tuesday 18 February 2014 19.05 ESTUkraine: protesters and police clash on worst day of Kiev bloodshedAt least 11 protesters and seven police officers reported dead as riot police move in to clear Independence SquareThree months of confrontation in Ukraine between the president and a large protest movement reached its peak on Tuesday night in the worst bloodshed since the country separated from Moscow more than two decades ago, with 18 people reported killed as riot police moved in to clear Kiev's Independence Square, the crucible of the anti-government activism.Hopes for a settlement of the crisis went up in smoke amid scenes of rioting, burning buildings, police bombings and rubber bullets that also left up to 500 people injured.A large section of the protest camp in the capital, Kiev, was engulfed in flames on Tuesday night as police advanced on the demonstrators using water cannons and stun grenades.The security services had earlier issued a warning, ordering tens of thousands of protesters to get off the streets by Tuesday evening or face a crackdown. [/break1]theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/18/ukraine-protesters-clash-police-reform]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/f ... ice-reformTuesday 18 February 2014 21.58 ESTUkraine police storm Kiev protest camp – live updatesAt least 18 killed and more than 200 seriously injured in clashes in Ukrainian capital [/break1]theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/18/ukraine-police-storm-kiev-protest-camp-live-updates]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/f ... ve-updates
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Post by Addie » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:17 am

The news photos coming out are just astonishing, Dolly. I saw one of a police officer whose helmet was burning with his head in it.
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