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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:11 am

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Trump administration quietly downgrades status of EU ambassador to Washington

The diplomatic status of the European Union ambassador to the US has reportedly been quietly downgraded by Donald Trump's administration.

The 28 nation bloc was upgraded from an international organisation to a member state in 2016, under former president Barack Obama.

Without announcing the move, German broadcaster Deutsche Welle reported that it's status had been relegated to its previous position.

This only came to the attention of EU officials when the ambassador to Washington, David O'Sullivan, remained uninvited to certain events last year. ...

EU diplomats were given final confirmation when Mr O’Sullivan was “called up as the last person” invited to former president George HW Bush’s funeral last month.

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FOX: Pompeo, at site of Obama's address to Muslim world, rebukes his legacy: 'Age of self-inflicted American shame is over':
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Thursday launched an astonishing rebuke of former President Barack Obama’s foreign policy at the site of Obama’s famous speech to the Muslim world -- declaring that “the age of self-inflicted American shame is over.”

Pompeo delivered his remarks in Cairo, where Obama famously spoke in 2009 and promised a new beginning with Muslim and Arab countries. He was criticized by conservatives for placing too much blame on the U.S. for strife in the region.

Pompeo, while not mentioning Obama by name, said that “it was here, in this city, another American stood before you” and “told you that radical Islamist terrorism does not stem from ideology.”

“He told you that 9/11 led my country to abandon its ideals, particularly in the Middle East,” he said at the American University in Cairo. “He told you that the United States and the Muslim world needed ‘a new beginning.’ The results of these misjudgments have been dire.”

Pompeo said that under Obama, the U.S. abandoned its allies and was “timid” about asserting itself, that the U.S. “grossly underestimated the tenacity and viciousness of radical Islamism,” and kept silent as Iranians tried to rise up against the regime in Tehran.

He also criticized Obama-era policy for “wishful thinking [that] led us to look the other way” as Hezbollah built up its weaponry in Lebanon, and for doing nothing as Syrian President Bashar Assad gassed his own people.

He then took another swipe at the 2015 Iran nuclear deal -- from which the U.S. withdrew last year. The U.S. has since re-imposed economic sanctions on the country, including on oil exports.

“Our eagerness to address only Muslims, not nations, ignored the rich diversity of the Middle East, and frayed old bonds. It undermined the concept of the nation-state, the building block of international stability,” he said. “And our desire for peace at any cost led us to strike a deal with Iran, our common enemy.”

But he promised his audience that the Trump administration was ushering in a new era of U.S. foreign policy.
Pompeo doesn't know whether we're staying or going; or who is friend and who is foe. We're just doing the opposite of what that Obama feller did.
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Post by Volkonski » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:32 pm

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With Trump Set To Exit The INF Treaty, We're Headed Toward A New Nuclear Arms Race

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After the failure of last-ditch talks with Russia on Thursday, President Donald Trump will soon give formal notice that the U.S. will “suspend” and in six months withdraw from the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty. This treaty, signed by Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev, broke the back of the Cold War nuclear arms race. A new arms competition now beckons. A new treaty to reduce nuclear arms seems unlikely. Donald Trump’s endorsement of an intended defense to protect U.S. cities will prompt more missiles to defeat its purpose.

Vladimir Putin has already threatened an arms race with Trump’s withdrawal from the INF Treaty. Putin’s threat has been called and raised by Trump’s space wall. All this suits National Security Adviser John Bolton, Trump’s Svengali, just fine. The United States can compete and compete well in an unfettered arms race. Any time your national defense budget is ten times bigger than Russia’s and five times bigger than China’s, you can afford an arms race. But arms races usually don’t end well: even if you stay ahead of the competition, your security is diminished.

There was a superpower arms race after the Soviet Union launched Sputnik in 1957. The United States competed hard, and soon enough there was a missile gap -- in Washington’s favor. Another arms race was brewing in the 1960s when Washington and Moscow had ambitious plans to build nationwide missile defenses. In the 1970s and 1980s, both superpowers began to place more than one warhead atop their longest-range missiles. It took twenty years for treaties to cap and reduce this competition.

Moscow and Washington are casting aside these treaties like old, ill-fitting clothes. First, George W. Bush withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty which banned nationwide defenses and which eventually enabled deep cuts. In response to Bush, Putin walked away from the 1993 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty banning land-based missiles carrying multiple warheads. Now Putin is deploying these “MIRVed” missiles to counter new missile defenses by the United States.
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bob wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:23 pm
Pompeo doesn't know whether we're staying or going; or who is friend and who is foe. We're just doing the opposite of what that Obama feller did.
Pompeo's only concern is the tender ego of white nationalists.

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bob wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:23 pm
Pompeo doesn't know whether we're staying or going; or who is friend and who is foe. We're just doing the opposite of what that Obama feller did.
Trump must be trusting his gut before he does his 5 AM tweet/Bravo Mike.
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It is true that Russia had already breached the INF. But instead of trying to hold Putin and company accountable to their commitments, Trump tore up the treaty. Now Russia is taking the opportunity to upgrade their nuclear arsenal with impunity.
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#Russia's state TV portrays the U.S. withdrawal from the INF nuclear treaty as the start of another Cold War. Hosts and panelists ratchet up the fears of a nuclear war and propose going after #Ukraine in various ways, to prevent it from being used as a potential NATO foothold. ©️
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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:25 am

WaPo OpEd - Steven L. Hall
I was in the CIA. Trump’s petty fights and insults will make us all less safe.

Presidents are entitled to their own policies, but they are not entitled to their own facts ...


Of course, the president has the right to formulate his own foreign policy. While policymaking is usually done with the assistance of an experienced national security team, the process should be informed, not driven, by intelligence. Plenty of presidents have listened to the information provided by intelligence professionals, then gone on to formulate policies at odds with what was suggested. President John F. Kennedy, for example, decided against using the CIA’s preferred invasion site in Cuba and asked the agency to find a less-populated landing site, which turned out to be the Bay of Pigs. That is healthy. In this case, Trump reacted as if the intelligence community’s threat assessment was a threat to him. Presidents are certainly entitled to their own policies, but they are not, as the saying goes, entitled to their own facts. ...

Trump’s inappropriate public criticisms will have a chilling effect on one of the United States’ most potent intelligence-force multipliers: our relationships with allied foreign intelligence agencies. Indeed, the president’s comments are uniquely self-defeating, in that our best hope for monitoring and perhaps modifying the behavior of rogue states such as Iran, North Korea and Russia is working in unison with our partners. Many have already taken note of Trump’s cavalier attitude toward sensitive information, as well as his apparent failure to understand the basic rules of intelligence-sharing. Recall when our president shared sensitive intelligence obtained from one of our foreign partners with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. I wouldn’t be surprised if our best intelligence allies were holding back information they might normally pass on to their U.S. counterparts, for fear Trump could not keep it a secret. Their concerns might even be justified when they consider the possibility that our president discussed sensitive matters with Russian President Vladimir Putin behind closed doors, with no record of the conversation.

At its heart, intelligence is about protecting our national security and our values by informing foreign policy. You can certainly criticize the performance of U.S. intelligence agencies. Any large organization should always be striving to improve efficiency. You can encourage the intelligence community to do better by learning from past experiences, taking those lessons and translating them into the ever-changing modern information era (as the Russians have done using hybrid warfare). We should have high expectations of our intelligence agencies because so much rides on their work.

We are well past the point where we can write off the president’s public criticisms of the intelligence community as those of a political outsider, who despite his constant missteps has a heart of gold and the best of intentions. We are now at the point where Trump’s actions are making us all less safe.
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Europeans fear Trump may threaten not just the transatlantic bond, but the state of their union

BERLIN — As President Trump prepares to deliver his second State of the Union address, the leaders of the United States’ closest allies in Europe are filled with anxiety.

They are unsure of whom to talk to in Washington. They can’t tell whether Trump considers them friends or foes. They dig through his Twitter feed for indications of whether the president intends to wreck the European Union and NATO or merely hobble the continent’s core institutions.

Officials say Trump, by design or indifference, has already badly weakened the foundation of the transatlantic relationship that American presidents have nurtured for seven decades. As Sigmar Gabriel, a former German foreign minister, put it: “He has done damage that the Soviets would have dreamt of.”

European leaders worry that the next two years could bring even more instability, as Trump feels emboldened, and they are filled with fear at the prospect that Trump could be reelected. The situation has left the continent facing a strategic paradox no one has managed to crack.

“We can’t live with Trump,” Gabriel said. “And we can’t live without the United States.”

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WaPo - Rick Noack
Why much of the world now feels more threatened by the U.S. than by China or Russia

If 2017 was the year foreign observers of U.S. politics struggled to decide where the country was headed, 2018 was the year they came to a conclusion: not in the right direction. Far more people around the world now believe that their countries are threatened by U.S. power and influence under President Trump than they are by the other global heavyweights, Russia or China, according to a new Pew Research Center survey released on Sunday.

While 45 percent of respondents in 26 large countries interviewed between May and August last year said that the United States posed “a major threat to our country,” only 36 percent said the same about Russia and 35 percent about China. Back in 2013 — under President Barack Obama — only 25 percent of global respondents held that view about the United States, while 34 percent considered China to be a major threat to their countries at the time. Data for Russia were not available that year.

During Trump’s first year in office, global approval of U.S. leadership began to drop significantly, with 38 percent saying they viewed the United States as a threat — compared to 33 percent saying the same about Russia and 34 percent about China. While China’s standing appears to have remained largely unchanged since, the percentage of people who now consider the United States a threat has almost doubled within just half a decade.

The sudden rise of the United States as a perceived major threat in other countries likely comes down to a number of different factors. The most prominent one is Trump. His trade wars and affronts against traditional alliances have unsettled U.S. partners and allies in Europe and other parts of the world, where “U.S. power and influence,” as the Pew survey phrased it, has become tightly associated with Trump himself. While 49 percent of Germans said they considered “U.S. power and influence” to be a top security concern, only 30 percent said the same about Russia. (The ratio of Germans fearing U.S. power is in fact now higher than the share of Russians who are concerned about the United States.) In Britain, which prides itself for having a special relationship with the United States, 37 percent still said they feared Washington’s leadership posed a threat to their nation, too.

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Trump shields the Saudi crown prince ...

So far, the White House has doggedly refused to turn on its allies in Riyadh. It didn’t matter that the CIA’s own assessment was that the operation to abduct the dissident writer on a visit to Turkey was probably ordered by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman himself; a senior administration official released a statement arguing that the president “maintains his discretion to decline to act on congressional committee requests.”

“The non-answer is a blatant dodge that ignores the finding of the CIA and the abundant evidence behind it,” The Post’s editorial board noted in response. “It makes a mockery of the Magnitsky law, as well as of U.S. principles by covering for the crown prince to protect the cozy relations between him and President Trump, as well as Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner." ...

“This whole episode shows you the degree to which this administration has gone all in on Saudi Arabia,” Kirby added. “It shows you the degree to which their Middle East policy is about Iran, and they see Saudi Arabia as the biggest counterweight against Iran.”

The complexities of Trump’s anti-Iran campaign will be on display in Warsaw on Wednesday, when Pompeo will co-host a conference ostensibly on the Middle East but widely seen as an anti-Iran summit. While Israeli and prominent Gulf officials will be in attendance, some traditional European allies will not be: The foreign ministers of France and Germany chose to skip the proceedings. The Saudis, Israelis and Emiratis — “like-minded” partners insofar as they oppose Tehran — will be better represented.

Speaking to the National, an Abu Dhabi-based newspaper, a European official at the United Nations described the Trump administration’s pre-Warsaw planning as “a series of chaotic decisions being made at random.” For now, that fumbling may be the best thing protecting senior Saudis from real repercussions over Khashoggi’s killing.

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Pompeo shrugs off expected no-shows ahead of U.S.-hosted conference on Middle East

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Arriving in Poland to host an international conference on Middle East peace and security, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced Tuesday that more than 30 foreign ministers would attend.

As a measure of its prospects, however, many countries have signaled that they will not be sending their top diplomats to the meeting — possibly nearly half.

As Pompeo and Vice President Pence prepare to welcome representatives of about 60 nations to Poland, co-host of the event, it is unclear what can be accomplished in a day of meetings over conflicts that have roiled the region for many years.

What Pompeo originally billed as a major conference to pressure Iran on its regional influence, missile testing and terrorism is now as likely to be defined by what it is not — and who is not coming. Several key countries appear to be engaging in a subtle diplomatic snub to protest the Trump administration’s policies toward Iran and Syria.
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‘US is trying to break up Europe’: Controversial Iran conference opens in Poland

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The conference is sure to spark controversy. On Wednesday, Mr Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani called for immediate regime change in Iran during a speech in the Eastern European city.

“Within a few years a free Iran will be one of the leading nations in the world,” he told a cheering crowd of supporters from the Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organisation, a cult-like Iranian opposition group. “We are going to have the celebration sooner rather than later in Tehran and I want to be there with you.”

European officials, especially those from France and Germany, are livid about the conference, which they see not only as an attempt to ratchet up pressure on Tehran, but to hoodwink member states into appearing to lend support to a hardline White House agenda shaped by freelancers such as Mr Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who will also attend the summit.

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But in addition to the various criss-crossing conflicts in the Middle East and what many describe as the Trump administration’s bumbling way of handling them, the Warsaw conference intersects with at least two other festering crises on the global agenda: fears of Russian expansion into Eastern Europe, and tensions with the EU amid the rise of right-wing populism.
Just how will Trump manage regime change in Iran?
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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:54 pm

The solution is “build a wall”, and get Iran to pay for it.

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Pompeo et al let their conference get hijacked by the MEK, Rudy and Bibi, which everyone could see coming from a hundred miles away. Will tout follow on "working groups" tomorrow. Expect further European distancing, however, from Trump on Iran
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.@IsraeliPM deleted their tweet and replaced “war with Iran” with “combating Iran”
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Pence blasts European allies for sidestepping sanctions on Iran

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In a speech at the Middle East Summit in Warsaw, Vice President Mike Pence demanded that other nations withdraw from the Iran nuclear agreement and criticized some of America's closet allies for creating a workaround to avoid U.S. sanctions. Pence specifically called out Britain, France and Germany for establishing a firm to will facilitate trade with Iran without using the American dollar.

In his speech, Pence criticized a mechanism used by European countries to sidestep sanctions. "We call it an ill-advised step that will only strengthen Iran, weaken the E.U. and create still more distance between Europe and America."

The vice president also took aim at the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the formal name of the Iran nuclear deal, from which the United States has now withdrawn. Many European nations, including conference host country Poland, still support the 2015 agreement under which Iran agreed to limit its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. These countries insist that Iran is in compliance with the agreement, and argument dismissed by Pence.

"Compliance is not the issue," Pence said. "The deal is the issue."
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Pence blasts European allies for sidestepping sanctions on Iran

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In a speech at the Middle East Summit in Warsaw, Vice President Mike Pence demanded that other nations withdraw from the Iran nuclear agreement and criticized some of America's closet allies for creating a workaround to avoid U.S. sanctions. Pence specifically called out Britain, France and Germany for establishing a firm to will facilitate trade with Iran without using the American dollar.

In his speech, Pence criticized a mechanism used by European countries to sidestep sanctions. "We call it an ill-advised step that will only strengthen Iran, weaken the E.U. and create still more distance between Europe and America."

The vice president also took aim at the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the formal name of the Iran nuclear deal, from which the United States has now withdrawn. Many European nations, including conference host country Poland, still support the 2015 agreement under which Iran agreed to limit its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. These countries insist that Iran is in compliance with the agreement, and argument dismissed by Pence.

"Compliance is not the issue," Pence said. "The deal is the issue."
I wonder if any of the attendees had to cover their mouths with their hands so Pence wouldn't see them snickering.
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ALL of them snickered. :rotflmao:
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German Chancellor Merkel received a standing ovation after a speech rejecting U.S. demands that European allies pull out of the Iran nuclear deal. Russia's foreign minister, a high-ranking Chinese official and Ivanka Trump pointedly stayed in their seats.
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The nuclear deal was the best way of influencing Iranian behavior on a range of non-nuclear issues,from missile development to terrorism, Ms. Merkel said.

Without mentioning President Trump or the United States by name in what may be her last speech to this major security conference, Ms. Merkel criticized other unilateral moves, such as Mr. Trump’s decision to pull American troops out of Syria, a suggestion that he would withdraw quickly from Afghanistan and his decision to suspend the Intermediate Range Missile Treaty with Russia, which directly affects European security.

“We sit there in the middle with the result,” she said.

Ms. Merkel spoke immediately before the United States vice president, Mike Pence, and addressed a packed auditorium with an audience that included Mr. Trump’s daughter Ivanka, as well as the Russian foreign minister and a high-ranking Chinese official, who all pointedly remained seated when the chancellor received a standing ovation.
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Post by Slim Cognito » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:24 pm

Here's video of Pence bringing "greetings from the 45th President of the United States, President Donald Trump," then pausing for applause.
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Please clap

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Polite audience. No one hissed.

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Someone should have thrown their shoes. :daydream:
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US commits another diplomatic fumble in Warsaw ...

While the US was putting on its diplomatic road show, Russian President Vladimir Putin arranged his own counterprogramming. In the Russian resort city of Sochi, Putin hosted a more intimate group, discussing the future of Syria with the leaders of Turkey and Iran. The Sochi summit only exacerbated Europe's irritation with Washington. European leaders are fuming at Trump's sudden decision to pull US troops from Syria, leaving Russia, Iran and Turkey with a much freer hand to shape the country's future.

To make matters worse, Vice President Mike Pence, in a particularly undiplomatic flurry, lambasted European allies who have refused to follow the US lead and pull out of the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, known as JCPOA. Pence didn't mince his words when he described Iran as the principal cause of instability in the Middle East, calling it a "murderous revolutionary regime" and accusing it of plotting a "new Holocaust." He also had sharp words for Britain, France and Germany for devising a scheme that will allow the European Union to circumvent US sanctions against Iran, which will ease the flow of food and medicine before expanding to other goods. "It is an ill-advised step that will only strengthen Iran, weaken the EU and create still more distance between Europe and the US," Pence said.

He's not wrong -- the EU and Washington are both deeply concerned about Iran, which they view as a malign and destabilizing force. Just last month, Europe imposed new limited sanctions on Tehran, freezing the assets of an Iranian intelligence unit and two officials after Netherlands, France, and Denmark accused Iran of plotting to assassinate dissidents in Europe. The only salve to this acrimonious relationship between Iran and Europe is a shared disdain for the Trump administration's policies.

While the US and Europe both share an aversion to Iran, the disagreement lies in their differing approaches. Europeans think staying in the JCPOA is the best way to limit the risks of a bellicose regime using nuclear weapons, while the Trump administration, along with Israel and major Sunni Arab countries, believe Iran should be confronted more forcefully.

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Ivanka Trump is the only person in audience who doesn’t applaud after Angela Merkel points out the absurdity of Trump claiming German cars are a national security threat
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