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Associated Press - Dec 14
Venezuelan exodus to reach 5.3 million by 2019, UN says

'Forced displacement' could cost humanitarian organizations $738M US


The United Nations says the number of Venezuelans fleeing the country's economic and humanitarian crisis is expected to reach 5.3 million by the end of 2019 in what has become the largest exodus in modern Latin American history.

The UN High Commissioner for Refugees said Friday that humanitarian organizations will need $738 million US to provide migrants with critical services like food and emergency shelter as added stress is put on receiving nations.

"We know that thousands leave every day, so if you do the math, I think if we're not there [yet], we'll be at the same scale of the Syrian displacement quite soon," Feline Freier, a professor and researcher at the Universidad del Pacífico in Peru, told CBC News in September.

"We're talking about forced displacement. These people leave Venezuela because if they do not leave, they don't survive."
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UNHCR: Emergency plan for refugees and migrants from Venezuela launched

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Post by Addie » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:59 pm

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Venezuela’s crisis deepens by the day. But Maduro is celebrating the start of six more years in office.

CARACAS, Venezuela — President Nicolás Maduro is set to be sworn in for a second term Thursday at a moment when there is little for him to celebrate.

His country is collapsing. There are signs of dissent in his inner circle. Socialist Venezuela is increasingly isolated, and its neighborhood has never been more unfriendly.

And yet, after an election in May tainted by allegations of fraud, Maduro begins his next six-year stint seemingly in a position of relative strength at home. According to Félix Seijas, head of the Caracas-based polling firm Delphos, the president remains extraordinarily unpopular, but so does his opposition — perhaps even more so. ...

“It is risky to predict 2019 will mark the end of Maduro’s authoritarian rule,” said Michael Shifter, president of the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington-based think tank. “Some have been saying his days are numbered since he came to power nearly six years ago. For various reasons, he has proven to be more resilient than many expected.” ...

According to a U.S. intelligence official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss ­sensitive matters freely, Maduro’s defense minister, Vladimir Padrino López, told the president last month to step down or accept his resignation — a threat he has yet to act on.

Maduro is also facing high-level defections. Christian Zerpa, a justice on the pro-government Supreme Court, fled to the United States this week and denounced the president. During a news conference in Orlando, he called the May presidential election unfair and described Maduro’s rule as “a dictatorship.” He also accused Maduro of frequently taking direct orders from Cuban officials.

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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:51 pm

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Trump considering recognizing Venezuelan opposition leader as legitimate President

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump is considering recognizing Venezuela's opposition leader as the legitimate president of the country, three sources familiar with the matter told CNN, a significant move that would increase pressure on Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro.

Trump is weighing recognizing the country's National Assembly President Juan Guaido as the legitimate Venezuelan leader after Maduro, a socialist authoritarian who has presided over Venezuela's political and economic crisis, was sworn in last week for a second term.

The Venezuelan opposition, the United States and dozens of other countries have decried Maduro's presidency illegitimate and the country's constitution says a presidential vacancy can be filled by the president of the National Assembly.

National Security Council spokesman Garrett Marquis declined to confirm that Trump is weighing this step, but said the US has "expressed its support for Juan Guaido, who as President of the democratically-elected National Assembly has courageously declared his constitutional authority to invoke Article 233 and call for free and fair elections."

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Post by HST's Ghost » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:50 am

Yes, just came to post the above, but I think it merits close attention. Perhaps an out for Trump to re-open the government, but also, it's a powder-keg apparently, so I am hoping for the best possible outcome...
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Post by Addie » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:48 pm

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Venezuela says rogue officers arrested, bases under control

Authorities detain military officers who stole weapons hours after video showed an officer calling for Maduro's removal.


Venezuela has detained a group of military officers who stole weapons and kidnapped four officials, the government said in a statement on Monday, hours after a social media video showed a sergeant demanding the removal of President Nicolas Maduro.

Protesters burned rubbish and a car outside the National Guard outpost where the officers were arrested in a sign of growing tensions following Maduro's inauguration to a second term that many governments around the world have called illegitimate.

Though the incident signals discontent within the armed forces, it appeared to involve only low-ranking officers with little capacity to bring about change in the hyperinflationary economy that has inflicted food and medicine shortages on so many.

"The armed forces categorically reject this type of action, which is most certainly motivated by the dark interests of the extreme right," the government said in a statement read out on state television.

Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez tweeted that those involved would be punished with the "full weight of the law".

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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:36 pm

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Vice President Pence calls Venezuelan opposition leader in show of support

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Mike Pence said he had spoken by phone on Tuesday with Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, a show of support for him and a further sign of U.S. displeasure with Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.

Pence’s intent in the call to Guaido, who is head of the opposition-run National Assembly, was to express U.S. support for the assembly as the “only legitimate democratic body in the country,” a White House official said.

Earlier on Tuesday, Venezuela’s Congress formally declared Maduro a “usurper” after last year’s disputed elections, and CNN reported that U.S. President Donald Trump was considering recognizing Guaido as Venezuela’s legitimate president.

The Trump administration has also been weighing whether to levy a new round of economic sanctions against Venezuela to pressure Maduro, who was inaugurated on Jan. 10. He has faced heavy criticism that his leadership is illegitimate following a 2018 election widely viewed as fraudulent.

Last week, Guaido said he was willing to replace Maduro if he had the support of the military. Several government officials have said he should be arrested for treason and on Sunday he was briefly detained by intelligence agents.

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Post by Addie » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:45 pm

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Six dead as Venezuela braces for massive rival protests

At least four people have died following overnight clashes ahead of Wednesday's rival protests in Venezuela by supporters and opponents of President Nicolas Maduro, police and a non-governmental organization said.

Thousands were beginning to assemble in Caracas ahead of the rival demonstrations on Wednesday, expected to be the first mass street rallies since 125 people died during protests between April and July, 2017.

A 16-year-old was among the dead overnight, having suffered "a firearm injury during a demonstration" in the capital Caracas, the Social Conflict Observatory said.

Police said the other three deaths occurred during looting in Bolivar City in the southeastern Bolivar State that borders Brazil.

A statue of iconic socialist revolutionary leader Hugo Chavez, Maduro's predecessor, was torched by dozens of protesters in the town of San Felix, Bolivar State.

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Post by Volkonski » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:18 pm

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So could other world leaders recognize Speaker Pelosi as the legitimate POTUS? :think:
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Post by Addie » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:39 pm

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Venezuela protests: thousands march as military faces call to abandon Maduro

Tens of thousands of Venezuelans have taken to the streets of the country’s capital in what opponents of Nicolás Maduro hope will prove a turning point for the country’s slide into authoritarianism and economic ruin.

Venezuela’s president, who started his second term on 11 January after disputed elections, is facing a reinvigorated opposition as well as increasing international hostility from the rightwing governments of the US, Brazil and Colombia.

Wednesday’s march follow two nights of violent protests in working-class neighbourhoods of Caracas – once bastions of support for the government – and the apparent foiling of an armed uprising by members of the national guard.

Early on Wednesday, protesters in eastern Caracas braved an early morning downpour, shouting in unison: “Who are we? Venezuela! What do we want? Freedom!”

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Post by Addie » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:08 pm

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Venezuela Opposition Leader Declares Himself President in Challenge to Maduro

CARACAS, Venezuela — In the most direct challenge yet to President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela, opposition leader Juan Guaidó swore himself in as interim president Wednesday as tens of thousands rallied in anti-government protests nationwide.

President Trump quickly recognized Mr. Guaidó as the interim leader of Venezuela, adding new fuel to the turmoil convulsing the impoverished country, once one of Latin America’s most prosperous.

“The people of Venezuela have courageously spoken out against Maduro and his regime and demanded freedom and the rule of law,” Mr. Trump said in a White House statement.

There was no immediate sign that Mr. Maduro would capitulate to the growing pressure on him to resign. On the contrary, Venezuela state media ignored the news on Mr. Guaidó and broadcast scenes of Venezuelan demonstrators in Caracas who back Mr. Maduro.

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Post by Volkonski » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:33 pm

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Countries recognizing #Venezuela Assembly leader as int. President:

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• Costa Rica
• Chile
** Mexico still supporting Maduro
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Post by Volkonski » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:08 pm

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Post by Danraft » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:18 pm

Well...As much as American Interventionism in the Americas has been one debacle after another, I'm not sure this is a bad thing.

But, there is more going on here than being discussed with the Russian influence and military planes and submarines and armaments going to Venezuela , even when they were already deeply in debt to Russia and not likely to be able to ever pay it back.

If I had time I would love to deeply research the history of how this country, with so much potential, got to this horrible state.

And, it isn't because of (gasp) socialism.
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Post by Addie » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:38 pm

Business Insider: Nicolás Maduro tells US diplomats to leave Venezuela within 24 hours after Trump recognizes opposition leader as interim president
Nicolás Maduro said he is breaking Venezuela's diplomatic relationship with the US soon after Donald Trump's government announced its support for Juan Guaidó, a Venezuelan opposition leader who on Wednesday declared himself the nation's interim president.

Maduro rejected Guaidó and said he would not stand for American intervention in Venezuela.

He gave US diplomats in Venezuela 72 hours to leave the country.

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Post by Foggy » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:53 pm

... and is Venezuela going to recognize Nancy Pelosi as the US interim president? :daydream:

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Post by Volkonski » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:30 am

Trump might want to restart the US government so he can deal with bigger things than his silly border wall.
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Russia has warned the U.S. not to intervene militarily in Venezuela, saying such a move would trigger a catastrophe.
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In an interview with Russian journal International Affairs published on Thursday, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Moscow would stand with Venezuela to protect its sovereignty and the principle of non-interference in its domestic affairs.

:snippity:

Ryabkov did not mention Maduro by name, but made clear Moscow backed his government.

"Venezuela is friendly to us and is our strategic partner," he said. "We have supported them and will support them."

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China also called on the U.S. to stay out of Venezuela's political crisis and said it opposes all outside intervention there. Over the last decade, China has given Venezuela $65 billion in loans, cash and investment. Venezuela owes more than $20 billion
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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:24 am

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:brickwallsmall: I don't think that the South American nations will appreciate the US meddling once again in their internal affairs. Putin will be forced to assure Maduro that he has the backing of Russia and may likely make a show of force if necessary.

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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:06 am

RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:24 am
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:brickwallsmall: I don't think that the South American nations will appreciate the US meddling once again in their internal affairs. Putin will be forced to assure Maduro that he has the backing of Russia and may likely make a show of force if necessary.
I'll look for the link but saw on twitter that Putin already sent two military planes to Venezuela.

Update. The two jets were sent last month, but according to WSJ, they're going home tomorrow.

https://t.co/3gCXrP5JfK

Russia to Withdraw Jets From Venezuela After Diplomatic Spat With U.S.

Two Russian bombers that flew to Venezuela on Monday as a gesture of support for socialist President Nicolás Maduro will leave on Friday
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Post by Addie » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:21 pm

The Guardian - Simon Tisdall
Donald Trump and his ship of fools are courting calamity in Venezuela

With no sensible advisers left by his side, Trump’s threats to the country’s president, Nicolás Maduro, could spark a disastrous conflict


Donald Trump’s implicit threat of direct US military intervention in Venezuela is a high-risk gamble that could backfire calamitously. By publicly and aggressively backing the opposition’s bid to supplant him, Trump has presented Nicolás Maduro, the country’s incumbent president, with a very personal, existential challenge.

If Maduro reacts, as he has in the past, by using violence to suppress his opponents, or if he arrests US diplomats who ignore his order to leave the country, Trump may face a daunting choice between rapid escalation, including possibly sending in US forces, and a humiliating climbdown.

It seems clear that Juan Guaidó, the opposition leader, has the backing of many if not most Venezuelans. Less evident, so far, is whether military chiefs and key army units will uphold his self-declared alternative presidency. Given the history of disastrous US interventions in Latin America, Maduro’s denunciation of a coup by the “gringo empire” carries considerable weight.

Then there is the added complication of strong Russian and Chinese support for the current regime. Moscow has condemned the attempted takeover. Maduro was feted in Beijing last autumn, where he was offered a financial bailout.

If the military stays broadly loyal to Maduro, Trump and his hawkish national security adviser, John Bolton, who has led the charge for regime change in Caracas, will have failed to meet the first, elementary requirement for successful coup-making: ensure the guys with the guns are on your side.

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Post by Volkonski » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:10 pm

Venezuelan oil sanctions would hit Gulf Coast refineries

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Gulf Coast refineries could suffer a blow if the United States moves forward with sanctions against Venezuelan crude oil exports.

Many refineries in Texas and Louisiana import heavy Venezuelan crude and mix it with lighter crude oil coming out of the Permian Basin and West Texas

"Venezuela is very important for oil markets, not so much the sheer volumes but rather for the quality of their crude. Sanctions would make US Gulf coast refiners the biggest loser," said Rystad Energy analyst Paola Rodriguez-Masiu in a article published by the research firm Thursday.

White House officials previously warned U.S. refineries about the potential of sanctions and advised them to look for other sources of heavy crude. Some refineries reportedly experimented with different sources last year but many ultimately returned to Venezuelan crude.
All crude oil is not created equal. Refineries are optimized for certain feedstocks. Often they can't just switch to a different crude source without substantial modifications, the kind of modifications that take years.
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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:45 pm

Addie wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:21 pm
The Guardian - Simon Tisdall
Donald Trump and his ship of fools are courting calamity in Venezuela

:snippity:
I have been wondering which foold had this brain fart to confront Venezuela. The fool-in-chief does not have the required brain cells (no hotel or golf course there, so how would he pinpoint the location on the globe) My guess is Bolton and / or Pompeo with a stong chance of Bolton who may be looking for a cheap shot rather than getting entangled with Iran.

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Post by Addie » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:47 pm

Newsweek
What If Nancy Pelosi Declared Herself President During the Government Shutdown, Russia's Prime Minister Asks

On Thursday, Russia’s Prime Minister and former President Dmitry Medvedev called out the United States for recognizing Venezuela’s opposition leader as the country’s new interim President, arguing that Americans would never allow a member of the U.S. opposition to declare themselves the leader of the country.

“How would the American people respond, for example, to the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives declaring herself the new president against the backdrop of the government shutdown? But when it happens somewhere else, this is viewed as common practice #Venezuela,” Medvedev tweeted as the U.S. government shutdown entered its 34th day.

Wednesday was a particularly dramatic day for Venezuela, which for several years has been experiencing an extreme economic crisis and hyperinflation that have led to severe shortages in food and medicine. The leader of the country’s legislature, Juan Guaido, declared himself the interim President of Venezuela and said that he would assume executive powers starting immediately. President Donald Trump and leaders across Europe almost immediately expressed their support for Guaido’s rule.

The country’s strongman President Nicolas Maduro, who was sworn in for a second term in office just two weeks ago, condemned the announcement as part of a U.S. coup attempt, and accused Trump personally of wanting to overthrow his government. Countries like Russia, Cuba, Turkey, and China have all thrown their support behind Maduro.

Venezuela's military also backed Maduro on Thursday, issuing a sweeping statement that blamed the U.S. for the current political standoff.

“For a long time now a vulgar coup has been plotted against the legitimate government of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela by elements of the extreme right with the unabashed approval of imperialist agents,” the military said in a statement.

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In a competent administration this would have been done before Trump recognized the opposition leader as president.
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JUST IN: State Department orders "non-emergency U.S. government employees to depart Venezuela" amid political turmoil. https://abcn.ws/2Dw6tOn
In a competent administration this would have been done before Trump recognized the opposition leader as president.
A sane WH would have consulted with the State Department :doh:

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