USA v Roger J. Stone, Jr., USDC-DC, Obstruction, False Statements, Witness Tampering

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Infowars:
REPORT: ROGER STONE FEARS HE’LL BE “EPSTEIN’D” IN JAIL
Trump confidant scared he will be murdered while in prison
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Politico and longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone fears if he’s jailed, he could face the same fate as Jeffrey Epstein, who mysteriously died while behind bars. According to journalist :lol: Cassandra Fairbanks, who says she recently spoke with Stone, the former Infowars radio host was worried he could be murdered in prison by the Deep State.

I saw Roger Stone a couple nights ago and he told me he’s scared they’re going to Epstein him. I can’t say that I think his fear is unfounded.
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“I saw Roger Stone a couple nights ago and he told me he’s scared they’re going to Epstein him. I can’t say that I think his fear is unfounded,” Fairbanks wrote on Twitter. Stone faces up to 50 years in prison after being convicted Friday by a DC jury on 7 different counts, including obstruction and witness tampering.

Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s death was ruled a suicide after he was found dead behind bars on August 10, with many suspecting he was murdered for possessing too much damning information on high-level pedophiles. Adding to the public’s suspicions, last month, former New York City medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden, who observed Epstein’s autopsy at the direction of brother Mark Epstein, said the findings were more consistent with signs of strangulation than suicide.
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Washington Times. God made his decision:
EXCLUSIVE: Roger Stone's spiritual adviser says embattled political operative has 'turned to God'
By Jeff Mordock - The Washington Times Thursday, November 14, 2019

As a former colleague from President Trump’s 2016 campaign delivered damning testimony in the perjury trial of right-wing gadfly Roger Stone, the accused sat quietly at the defense table and did something no one expected: He read the Bible. The sight of Mr. Stone quietly thumbing through the Good Book contrasted sharply with the outlandish persona of the longtime GOP operative whose profane and vulgar texts dominated the prosecution’s case. Randy Lancaster-Short wasn’t surprised, though. He’s been Mr. Stone’s spiritual adviser for the past two years and handed his friend the Bible, recognizing it was what he needed at that moment when a one-time campaign ally, Rick Gates, threw him under the bus. “Well, that is something nice you can say about Rick Gates, he got Roger Stone to read the Bible,” Mr. Lancaster-Short said with a laugh.
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Mr. Lancaster-Short attended every day of the nearly two-week trial in Washington, sitting in the row reserved for family and eating lunch with the Stone family in the courthouse cafeteria. The African-American Harvard Divinity School graduate said Mr. Stone’s faith is strong, despite spending decades cultivating a bad-boy image. “There is a heart there,” Mr. Lancaster-Short said in an exclusive interview with The Washington Times. “He’s got a bark, but sometimes the nicest dog has the loudest bark.”

He’s known the longtime GOP operative since 2016, when they met through a mutual friend. The unlikely duo of a lifelong religious leader and self-described dirty trickster began discussing politics. But as Mr. Stone’s legal woes mounted, his faith grew, Mr. Lancaster-Short said. About a dozen FBI agents in riot gear stormed Mr. Stone’s house in a January predawn raid to arrest him. The tactics used by authorities were criticized by some conservatives as excessive force. “He’s really seeking intervention,” Mr. Lancaster-Short said. “People’s faith ebbs and flows, but imagine if you had 50 armed people with submachine guns at your house. You’d be calling God real fast.”

Mr. Stone, who was raised Catholic, and his family have openly displayed their faith as the trial wears on. They were spotted at Sunday Mass last weekend and Mr. Stone’s wife, Nydia, even posted on Instagram a photo of them in church with a prayer emoji. Mr. Stone’s wife and daughter sat in court this week with a Bible open in their laps reading the Book of Psalms.
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Mr. Lancaster-Short is quick to acknowledge Mr. Stone’s flaws, noting Jesus’ love for sinners. “Everyone comes up short in the glory of God,” he said. “There is a really nice psalm about that, ‘Jesus, what a friend of sinners.’” “When the government comes on you, you lose your house, your money, people shut you off, who else would you turn to? I would rather he turn to God than alcohol or drugs or harming himself,” Mr. Lancaster-Short said. There is a private side to Mr. Stone that contradicts the outlandish character portrayed in the media, according to his spiritual adviser.
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Mr. Lancaster-Short attends court every day wearing a white religious smock. It draws attention even among the unusual and controversial supporters who have stood with Mr. Stone during the trial. It’s important that he stands out in the crowd, he told the Times. “A lot of people think Roger Stone doesn’t have any friends who are black or believe in God,” Mr. Lancaster-Short said. “People forget he worked with black pastors like Al Sharpton and others.” Other, more polarizing Stone supporters, including alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos and Gavin McInnes, founder of far-right activist group Proud Boys. “I didn’t know Milo or if I would like him, but whatever you think of Milo, what you see is what you get,” Mr. Lancaster-Short said. “In the clergy, we deal with murders, rapists and white-collar crooks. Why can’t Roger Stone be friends with whomever?”

As a verdict looms for Mr. Stone, his spiritual adviser said he is hoping for an acquittal, calling the charges a waste of taxpayer money on a case the prosecutors didn’t prove. More than anything, Mr. Lancaster-Short wants people to pray for Mr. Stone. “That’s a lot of damage to put on one life in a year’s lifetime,” he said. “He’s been uprooted, lost his house, money. They’ve put this stuff on him and people are always going to believe he’s guilty. I hope first and foremost, people pray for him to heal.”
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Post by fierceredpanda » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:39 pm

Why the fuck would anyone want Stone dead in prison?


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Why the fuck would anyone want Stone dead in prison?
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:48 pm

A thought: Trump won’t pardon Stone or any of his other pals if he is not reelected cuz it might look bad to any potential jurors in forthcoming state and federal criminal trials. He will feel the need to distance himself from anything “wrong”.


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Post by Suranis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:54 pm

Is there the possibility of votes, money, or a reduction in his own prison sentence in pardoning Stone?

if not, then Stone is going to be enjoying the tender mercies of the US Prison system


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:58 pm

Somerset wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:23 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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Prediction: 46 months.

And a pardon the next day.
I'm not sure you've got them in the right order :cry:
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Post by bob » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:58 pm

Stone can still flip and reduce his sentence.

But I doubt he has anything of value to offer.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:22 pm

bob wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:58 pm
Stone can still flip and reduce his sentence.

But I doubt he has anything of value to offer.
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Post by Gregg » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:58 pm

Turtle wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:02 pm
Kendra wrote:
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Will SNL bring Steve Martin back for a Roger Stone Cold Open??? :pray: :pray: :pray:
By next week, no one will know or remember who Roger Stone is.

Wasn't he the guy who represented that porn star that Trump paid off? :rotflmao:


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Post by Chilidog » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:03 pm

p0rtia wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:06 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:55 pm
Prediction: 46 months.

And a pardon the next day.
I was going for a pardon before midnight, but I defer to your oracular reputation.
If the sentencing is not till February, why would President Pence pardon him?

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Post by fierceredpanda » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:13 pm

Stone's word is worth less than nothing at this point. He has absolutely nothing to offer that federal prosecutors want.


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Post by fava » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:19 pm

I was looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... nald_Trump and I noticed that most of the pardons granted by trump came after they had served their sentances, often many years after they served their sentence.

I wonder if the political backlash after he pardoned Joe Arpaio has made him a little gun shy?



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:48 pm

I don't think Stone ever really had much but dirty laundry, his own, he has no credibility, and he's blown what little political capital he had to spend, he and Corsi are just bad jokes waiting for the hook to catch up with them. His biggest problem is that the one person who can get him out of this has other bigger night terrors to deal with, and a very tiny attention span to go with other parts of his body.


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Post by much ado » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:52 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:03 pm
p0rtia wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:06 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:55 pm
Prediction: 46 months.

And a pardon the next day.
I was going for a pardon before midnight, but I defer to your oracular reputation.
If the sentencing is not till February, why would President Pence pardon him?

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Post by much ado » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:55 pm

Okay. The only reason I can come up with that President Trump would pardon Stone, if Trump is still in office, is that it would signal to his other loyal scum that he has their backs, and they can lie with complete impunity. Other than that, there is no reason for Trump to pardon Stone.



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Post by much ado » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:57 pm

much ado wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:55 pm
Okay. The only reason I can come up with that President Trump would pardon Stone, if Trump is still in office, is that it would signal to his other loyal scum that he has their backs, and they can lie with complete impunity. Other than that, there is no reason for Trump to pardon Stone.
I think we might need a tweek to the Constitution to require Supreme Court review of Executive pardons to insure they are not self-serving going forward. Just a thought.



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Post by Shizzle Popped » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:02 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:48 pm
A thought: Trump won’t pardon Stone or any of his other pals if he is not reelected cuz it might look bad to any potential jurors in forthcoming state and federal criminal trials. He will feel the need to distance himself from anything “wrong”.
You're assuming Trump knows when something is wrong or would listen to somebody else when they tell him it's wrong. I suspect neither case is true.


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Post by Turtle » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:13 pm

He won't pardon them if he thinks he is going down via impeachment or electoral defeat. He can't deal with the thought of his "best people" getting him in trouble while they are off the hook themselves.



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:16 pm

Turtle wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:13 pm
He won't pardon them if he thinks he is going down via impeachment or electoral defeat. He can't deal with the thought of his "best people" getting him in trouble while they are off the hook themselves.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:04 pm

I find Stone's shirt collars really annoying. He won't have to worry about keeping them pressed for the next several years. (I hope.)



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Post by fierceredpanda » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:16 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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I find Stone's shirt collars really annoying. He won't have to worry about keeping them pressed for the next several years. (I hope.)
They're English-style cutaway collars. Very fashionable with a certain subset of Saville Row types. I actually don't mind them, even if I prefer a more conservative spread collar myself.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:23 pm

Savile Row is for ponces. I preferred Jermyn Street.



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