One of the greatest moments in birferdom.
And I wasn't there.
(But I was working with our Georgia counsel and someone decided none of us should be there.)
One of the greatest moments in birferdom.
I think this is the same trial. YOu have no idea the amount of good hearted Condervitives I had to sacrifice to resurect this. Their patriotic bloot stung my foul skin as it gushed upon the tree io liberty.
Thank you for your sacrifice, Suranis!!Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:53 amI think this is the same trial. YOu have no idea the amount of good hearted Condervitives I had to sacrifice to resurect this. Their patriotic bloot stung my foul skin as it gushed upon the tree io liberty.
Will the prosecution get an opportunity to put that idea to the jury?
Roger Stone’s lies caused inaccurate House Russia report, Mueller team says
Defense says the longtime Trump confidant had no 'motive' to lie
Lawyers delivered closing arguments Wednesday in the trial of Roger Stone, a longtime Republican political operative and confidant of President Donald Trump accused of lying to Congress about his interactions with the president’s 2016 campaign and his connections to WikiLeaks.
Stone pleaded not guilty in January to a seven-count indictment of lying to investigators, obstruction of justice and witness tampering. He faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted. The jury is expected to begin deliberations Thursday.
Stone and his lawyers have questioned prosecutors’ motives for pursuing the case against him, accusing them of trying to exact political retribution against Stone for his association with Trump.
Stone was the last person to be indicted by Robert S. Mueller III’s special counsel team. Trump routinely dismissed Mueller’s investigation into Russian election interference as a “witch hunt” and “hoax.”
But prosecutors argued Stone’s alleged lies to the House Intelligence Committee on Sept. 26, 2017, obstructed the congressional panel’s separate probe into Russian election interference and led lawmakers to issue incorrect conclusions.
In its final report, the committee concluded there was “no evidence” Stone had any advanced knowledge about WikiLeaks’ releases of the hacked Democratic emails. That’s because Stone’s repeated lies prevented the committee from obtaining that evidence, prosecutors said.
Prosecutors also implied that Stone’s misdirection caused special counsel Robert Mueller to potentially lose out on key evidence.
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“Stone not only tried, he succeeded in impeding the committee’s investigation,” [AUSA Jonathan] Kravis said. “The committee report is not accurate.”
The prosecutor pointed to where the House panel declared in its March 2018 report that it “did not find any evidence contradicting Stone's claim” that everything he said when boasting about the damage to Hillary Clinton’s campaign came from publicly available information.
“No evidence? Really?” Kravis said. “How about that Aug. 2 email from Jerome Corsi?”
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“The committee never saw any of those documents because Mr. Stone lied to the committee and told the committee that those did not exist,” Kravis said.
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Kravis’ point, made for the first time near the end of his closing arguments, was intended to head off legalistic points from Stone’s defense that he’s not guilty because any possible misstatements or withheld emails were not “material” to the House committee’s probe. Stone’s attorneys have argued that the committee’s stated focus was Russian interference, not WikiLeaks or Assange.
“The documents were not relevant because they were not about Russian interference,” Stone defense attorney Bruce Rogow said in his own closing arguments. The lawyer added that Stone’s WikiLeaks-related communications with figures like Trump campaign deputy Rick Gates and campaign CEO Steve Bannon “had nothing to do” with Russian influence on the presidential race.
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“There was no purpose for Mr. Stone to have to lie about anything to protect the campaign when the campaign was doing nothing wrong in being interested in this information,” Rogow said, who added the Trump team broke no laws when it expressed delight at the prospect of WikiLeaks document dumps at the detriment of Clinton.
Rogow in his closing argument also insisted the lying allegations don’t make sense given the GOP operative volunteered to testify. And he claimed there wasn’t even a reason for Stone to lie since his efforts to glean insight into WikiLeaks’ plans was not illegal.
“So much of this case deals with that question that you need to ask, ‘So what?’” Rogow said.
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Michael Marando, a federal prosecutor who stepped in to make the government’s final points, became so animated as he railed against Stone's defense that fellow prosecutor Aaron Zelinsky poured extra water for his colleague and pushed it his way.
The government attorney then attacked Rogow’s “So what?” remark.
“So what? So what?” the prosecutor said, incredulously. “If that’s the state of affairs that we’re in, I’m pretty shocked. Truth matters. Truth still matters. OK?”
He barreled ahead.
“Mr. Stone came in and he lied to Congress, he obstructed their investigation and he tampered with a witness,” he added. “And that matters and you don't look at that and say, 'So what?' And for those reasons we ask you to find him guilty of the charged offenses."
That’s definitely the Atlanta ballot access hearing. In the first frames you can see The back heads of Doc C, Mrs. C, and Loren. I’m sitting directly behind Loren. You can see the top of my frizzy head in some shots.jemcanada wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:13 pmI remember this trial. Dr. Conspiracy is in the audience. I’m pretty sure Orly tried to enforce subpoenas from this trial in Georgia to demand Obama’s original birth records in Hawaii. There were some good hearings there with Foggy’s imaginary girlfriend Jill Nagamine. Good times!
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Yeah, baby! That's what I'm talkin' about!The jury is expected to begin deliberations Thursday.