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Today's hearing is done. Manafort blew a kiss while leaving the courtroom, he walked with a cane, had a noticeable hitch in his step.


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Volkonski wrote:
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Today's hearing is done. Manafort blew a kiss while leaving the courtroom, he walked with a cane, had a noticeable hitch in his step.
channeling his inner trussell.



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Post by NMgirl » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:26 am

Whip wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:07 am

channeling his inner trussell.
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Post by Flatpointhigh » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:26 am

Whip wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:07 am
Volkonski wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:01 am
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Today's hearing is done. Manafort blew a kiss while leaving the courtroom, he walked with a cane, had a noticeable hitch in his step.
channeling his inner trussell.
well his lawyers are claiming he's suffering from gout.



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:15 pm

Flatpointhigh wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:26 am
Whip wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:07 am
Volkonski wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:01 am
channeling his inner trussell.
well his lawyers are claiming he's suffering from gout.
He very well could be, he looks like he eats and drinks much too much, and stress does wonders for inducing gout. I 'm actually surprised that Corsi doesn't, except I 'm betting more for extremely high blood pressure and heart disease for him. Choleric is a really good and poetic description of him.


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Post by NMgirl » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:10 am

Massive protest by the Professional Lipreaders Association of America outside the courtroom.




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Post by Slim Cognito » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:52 am

NMgirl wrote:
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Massive protest by the Professional Lipreaders Association of America outside the courtroom.

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Post by Kendra » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:02 pm



The super sekrit hearing is under way.



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JUST IN: Federal judge overseeing Paul Manafort’s case in Washington, DC, has set a new sentencing date of March 13 at 9:30 a.m. ET.


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Post by NMgirl » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:26 pm

Well, well, well. Another sealed hearing coming up very soon. Hmmm. Has Manafort decided that lying is no longer is his best interests :?:

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We are reading.
The federal court in DC has made public what happened during some of Paul Manafort’s four-and-a-half hour sealed court hearing on Monday. A partial and redacted transcript was made available Thursday afternoon.


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Post by Chilidog » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:16 pm

One of the alleged misstatements to prosecutors, according to the transcript, is related to Manafort's discussions with Konstantin Kilimnik, a person identified by the FBI as being associated with Russian intelligence. According to prosecutors, the discussions occurred on Aug. 2, 2016, while Manafort was Trump campaign chair, and continued through 2018.

According to prosecutors, Manafort and Kilimnik had a discussion that referenced a "backdoor."

The reference to a "backdoor" comes after the discussion of Manafort's work in the Ukraine, specifically work for a potential candidate there and polls Manafort had arranged.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... ws-n969071



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Post by Chilidog » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:19 pm

(Manafort’s lawyer) told Judge Amy Berman Jackson, "I think the situation that we want to be sure the Court is aware of — we know that it is — is just the challenges of anyone who is, you know, facing some of the physical and emotional challenges Mr. Manafort was; the situation of his confinement, the focus, really for the last months before this, really on just the trial issues on the case, and then shifting, almost immediately, to: Let's open the world to everything you remember over the last several years, and well before that."

Federal prosecutors countered by pointing out that the bulk of their questions had to do with the evidence they had already gathered and provided to Manafort prior to his trial in Virginia during the summer of 2018.
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:09 pm

https://www.wonkette.com/manafort-judge
Manafort Judge Probably Loved It A Lot When Lawyers Lied To Her, Don't You Think?

As we said last three weeks ago, we think that works out to:
In the summer of 2016, Manafort had been instrumental in setting up the [PAC] and having [Gay] run it. The [PAC] had engaged [Multi Media Services, aka MMS] at Manafort's suggestion and [MMS] performed [digital media services in support of candidate Trump]. The [PAC] gave [MMS] approximately $19 million for [cutting ads]. Under the terms of the contract between [Manafort's lobbying firm Davis Manafort Partners, DMP] and the [PAC], [the PAC] was to receive a 6% commission on all [ad buys.] According to [a witness, possibly Ken McKay], half of the commission was to be provided to [DMP], although this was not reflected in the contract.
So when Manafort was theoretically working on the Trump campaign "for free," he was actually collecting a $570,000 "commission" from Trump's PAC. Neat trick, huh? Which is probably why he told prosecutors on September 20, 2018, that the payment was a "loan" from his buddy Laurance Gay. Then he told the grand jury that it was a "gift," because someone, presumably Gay, was paying his legal bills as a token of gratitude for getting him work in the past. In his final version of the story, the $125,000 was income, which he picked up on his 2018 return. Ipso facto, NO COLLUSION!

As proof that Manafort wasn't lying his ass off, his lawyers state that their client was merely confused. It was kind of a gift, see, but since he got a 1099 from someone for that money, Manafort figured he should just cough up the additional $62,000 in federal and state income tax at a time when he was totally illiquid. You know, out of an abundance of caution. And the lawyers will produce the metadata on that unsigned promissory note that Gay "discovered" in 2018 to prove that it totally, really existed in 2017 at the time MMS paid Manafort's legal bills. The lawyers never bothered to find said metadata before the sentencing hearing because, ummmm, reasons.

Judge Jackson seemed deeply skeptical of the unsigned promissory note that magically appeared in an email in October of 2018, 15 months after the money was advanced, when Mueller's team started asking about the transaction:
So, I feel like that not only is it possible that he wasn't being truthful with the Office of Special Counsel, but you [Manafort's lawyers] were kind of really downplaying it in your description to me. So, what do you want to tell me about this promissory note that makes its first appearance during the debriefing session?




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So, what do you want to tell me about this promissory note that makes its first appearance during the debriefing session?
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Post by Addie » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:22 pm

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Prosecutors make secret filing in case linked to Mueller

Government prosecutors on Monday filed an update in a criminal case stemming from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation – but the filing was made under seal, meaning the details remain shielded from the public.

The case involves Sam Patten, a GOP consultant and one-time associate of Paul Manafort who pleaded guilty to failing to register as a foreign agent while performing lobbying work on behalf of a political party in Ukraine last August.

The U.S. attorney’s office in Washington, D.C. and Patten’s defense attorneys were due to file a status report in his case on Monday -- filings that sometimes contain details about the extent of a defendant’s cooperation with the government. However, federal prosecutors asked Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who is overseeing Patten’s case, to file the status report under seal. Jackson granted the request. ...

Mueller’s office referred Patten’s case to the U.S. attorney’s office in D.C. for prosecution. However, as part of his plea agreement unsealed last August, Patten agreed to cooperate with the special counsel’s office and other federal prosecutors.

Monday’s filing is a possible indication that the government wants to keep any details of Patten’s cooperation from the public realm; indeed it remains unclear what probes he may be cooperating with. Prosecutors also typically use status reports to request that a judge move a defendant to sentencing. It therefore remains unclear when Patten will be ultimately be sentenced. He is not likely to face significant jail time.
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Post by NMgirl » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:49 am

Sealed, unsealed, sealed, unsealed :confused:




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Post by NMgirl » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:54 am

I can't see anything that's new in this filing that hasn't already been hashed out, but maybe that's just the IANAL in me talking crap.
A Feb. 13, 2019, filing by lawyers for Paul Manafort laying out their arguments for why he didn't lie to investigators in breach of his plea agreement.
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Post by Addie » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:30 am

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What Happened in the Grand Havana Room? Intriguing Connections Emerge from Mueller Probe Deep Dive

Over the course of special counsel Robert Mueller‘s events, certain combinations have become more and more familiar over time. “Moscow Project,” “Trump Tower meeting” — these are a couple of examples. Could the Grand Havana Room join them?

Law&Crime previously reported at length on the subject of a controversial meeting, but not necessarily the actual place it took place in, which adds a Godfather tinge to the whole affair.

Upon the filing of a 143-page transcript of partial and heavily-redacted testimony from a sealed hearing, we learned that Mueller and his prosecutors mentioned among their reasons supporting the allegation that Paul Manafort lied repeatedly in breach of a plea deal is that Manafort allegedly lied about an August 2016 meeting between with Russian political operative Konstantin Kilimnik, who is suspected of having active ties to Russian intelligence agencies at the time. Manafort is accused of lying about the sharing of 2016 Trump campaign polling data. The operating theory is that this poll data exchange happened at the Grand Havana Room for a purpose Manafort would later “lie” about. ...

This meeting, which the cooperating Rick Gates was also present at, is now receiving closer attention. So is the private cigar room locale blocks away from Trump Tower known as the Grand Havana Room.



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Post by Kendra » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:43 pm

:?: Isn't the Grant Havana Room in the Kushner owned 666 Building?



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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:50 pm

Kendra wrote:
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:?: Isn't the Grant Havana Room in the Kushner owned 666 Building?
Yes, Google puts it there’s, but didn’t the Kushners sell their share?



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Post by Kendra » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:53 pm

Dunno. Too lazy to Google just yet.



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