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Post by Maybenaut » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:15 pm

TexasFilly wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:48 am
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About $46 million in forfeited stuffs.

The Muller investigation just paid for itself and then some.
Where's Mrs. Mani/Pedi gonna live? :crying:
Yeah, I have no sympathy for her. If* they filed joint tax returns, she had to have signed them. She's a lawyer. I doubt she didn't know about his tax evasion.

*I don't know whether they filed joint tax returns or not, but if they did, she's as guilty as he is. And if they didn't, she still likely knew he was a tax cheat.



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Post by Slim Cognito » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:17 pm

From the Buchman twitter thread above (thx Kendra!):
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Judge ABJ just said Manafort has waived his right to have attorneys present during his cooperation sessions with special counsel Robert Mueller's team. If he lies, or commits other crimes while cooperating, the deal is off.

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Manafort just made it official. "I plead guilty," he said when asked if he wants to go to trial or plead guilty.


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Post by Kendra » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:17 pm

Very quiet over at Dotard's twitter feed.



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Post by Volkonski » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:19 pm

Kendra wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:17 pm
Very quiet over at Dotard's twitter feed.
Maybe his remaining staff managed to wrestle his phone away from him. ;)


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Post by kate520 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:21 pm

:lol:


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Post by Maybenaut » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:22 pm

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What is Manafort getting out of this deal :?: Doesn't seem like much.
Several things:

Not having to pay his lawyers hundreds of thousands of dollars he probably doesn't have to go through another trial.
The Government capping its sentencing recommendation at something that doesn't guarantee he'll spend the rest of his life in a federal prison.
Closure. Honestly, from my experience as a criminal defense attorney, I can attest that the entering of a plea frequently does take a load off my clients' backs. They feel worn down from the investigation and litigation of the case. By the time of entering a plea, at least they can start getting themselves in the right head-space for whatever comes next. It's a small thing, but very real. That stress is magnified a thousandfold in federal prosecutions.
Agreed. This is as good as it was ever going to get for Manafort. Anything less than a guilty plea and cooperation was just going to result in more prison time and more financial loss.




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Flashback. August 19, 2016. Newt Gingrich: "Nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to really help get this campaign to where it is right now."



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Post by Slim Cognito » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:47 pm

It's just another Felon Friday.
Giuliani's lie day.
Jr's gonna fry day
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Post by TexasFilly » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:59 pm

Talking heads on CNN pointing out that Mani's lawyer talked about "his family's safety." Witness protection program? The Manaforts, coming to a farm in Iowa near you!


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Post by Addie » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:00 pm

CNN: Paul Manafort pleads guilty and agrees to cooperate with Mueller investigation

Washington (CNN)Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department, including in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
CNBC: 'Paul Manafort will tell the truth,' Trump's legal team said. Minutes later, they took it back
Talking Points Memo: Mueller Runs Manafort Over Coals With Details From Ukraine Lobbying Scheme


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Worried that Putin might send a polonium martini to his table?


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Post by Slim Cognito » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:04 pm

Saw on the twitter machine (no link) that Manafort's cooperation paperwork was 17 pages long. Is that a lot? It sounds like a lot.


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Post by Kendra » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:10 pm


President Trump is in the White House residence right now watching TV coverage of the Manafort plea deal, a source tells @jeffzeleny



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Post by Mr Pfister » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 pm

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Statement from @PressSec on Paul Manafort’s plea deal and cooperation agreement: “This had absolutely nothing to do with the President or his victorious 2016 Presidential campaign. It is totally unrelated.”
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Post by Kendra » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 pm


.@newtgingrich: "Nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to really help get this [Trump] campaign to where it is right now."



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FYI: It is expected that Manafort will remain in jail in Alexandria, VA until his sentencing.

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Post by Volkonski » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:17 pm


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LATEST: Prosecutors revealed in court this morning that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort completed a successful meeting with investigators in which he offered them information they consider valuable. https://abcn.ws/2OktOoV
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Post by TexasFilly » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:22 pm

From a guy who knows about these things:



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Post by kate520 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:25 pm

Volkonski wrote:
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FYI: It is expected that Manafort will remain in jail in Alexandria, VA until his sentencing.

12:04 PM - 14 Sep 2018
Good.
Do you suppose Manafort requested that? :lol: That might be the safest place for him for a while.

He deserves a lot more than he’s getting in terms of punishment. He’s been working against American interests for a long, long time.


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Post by Mikedunford » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:26 pm

I don't have a lot of time today (or tomorrow, or Sunday, or Monday), so I'm not going to comment on the details.

But I will say two things:

1: From now on, I think my base assumption anything something happens (or starts to happen) in the Mueller investigation is going to be very simple: Mueller knows a hell of a lot more than me, and he knows what he's doing.

2: This whole thing has to be absolute hell on Trump and his lawyers. (This is something I'm fine with.) Trump doesn't know the law and has no idea whether anything he did or didn't do is illegal. So he's not sure - at all - what his actual exposure really is. Trump's lawyers, meanwhile, have a client whose first instinct is to lie. They don't know what Trump's exposure is either, because there's no way they can be confident that they are in possession of all, or even most, of the relevant facts.


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Post by Somerset » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:27 pm

Volkonski wrote:
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Manafort's place at Trump Tower must be forfeited.

11:04 AM - 14 Sep 2018
So, the US Government will own part of Trump Tower. :lol:
I've read the Superseding Criminal Information sheet and it doesn't list the Trump Tower apartment as one of the forfeited properties.



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Post by TexasFilly » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:30 pm

Mikedunford wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:26 pm
I don't have a lot of time today (or tomorrow, or Sunday, or Monday), so I'm not going to comment on the details.

But I will say two things:

1: From now on, I think my base assumption anything something happens (or starts to happen) in the Mueller investigation is going to be very simple: Mueller knows a hell of a lot more than me, and he knows what he's doing.

2: This whole thing has to be absolute hell on Trump and his lawyers. (This is something I'm fine with.) Trump doesn't know the law and has no idea whether anything he did or didn't do is illegal. So he's not sure - at all - what his actual exposure really is. Trump's lawyers, meanwhile, have a client whose first instinct is to lie. They don't know what Trump's exposure is either, because there's no way they can be confident that they are in possession of all, or even most, of the relevant facts.
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