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Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Dear @realDonaldTrump: Let's clarify. I'm a lawmaker on the House Judiciary Committee. The partisan subpoena to @TheJusticeDept was stupid. GOP wants to impeach Hillary.

But you are @POTUS. What are you hiding?

Also, why do you seem so angry all the time? Do you like your job?


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Impeach Hillary from what? Being a housewife?


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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:30 am

Addie wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:47 pm
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Trump blasts DOJ over its response to House Judiciary subpoena

:snippity:
In how many law suits did Teh Donald (and his lawyer) miss a deadline?



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upset that he can't get un redacted copies of FISA data... tell him it's like his tax returns, they are part of an ongoing investigation.... ridiculous.


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Cross-posting

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How Paul Manafort could put the FBI on trial

Lawyers are watching to see if the former top Trump aide will make an aggressive — and risky — case that he is the victim of political bias among federal Russia investigators.


Paul Manafort’s legal team faces a critical choice as he heads to trial: how aggressively the former Trump campaign chairman should base his defense on alleged political bias and misconduct by federal investigators.

Manafort, a criminal defendant fighting two separate cases, is uniquely positioned to try to dredge up information on bias or potential overreach by FBI and Justice Department officials who have played roles in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Whether Manafort will seek to uncover and spotlight disparaging details about federal officials, potentially including an FBI agent dismissed from Mueller’s team last year, has become the subject of speculation and anticipation by lawyers involved in the Russia investigation. ...

Some expect Manafort to take a slash-and-burn approach. “I think they’re going to try to throw any dirt possible,” said former federal prosecutor Randal Eliason. “If he’s going to trial, then I would expect it to be an all-out war and I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to make those kinds of claims that the prosecution is tainted.”


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Addie wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:59 am
Cross-posting

Politico
How Paul Manafort could put the FBI on trial

Lawyers are watching to see if the former top Trump aide will make an aggressive — and risky — case that he is the victim of political bias among federal Russia investigators.
:snippity:
Even speculating that Manafort may sneak past a criminal conviction from Muellers indictment, will not the IRS still have a good claim on his wealth and be able to get a conviction on all those false declarations over many years past?



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Post by Addie » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:17 pm

The Hill
Schumer: It's time to vote on legislation protecting Mueller

Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday called on Senate GOP leaders to bring legislation to the floor that would protect special counsel Robert Mueller from being fired in the midst of heightened tension over his investigation into Russian election meddling.

Schumer called for new protections of Mueller hours after the FBI raided the Manhattan office of Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, enraging the president.

The Democratic leader warned that Mueller’s investigation must be allowed to proceed unimpeded to avoid a constitutional crisis.

He noted that there are several bipartisan bills to protect the special counsel.


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Post by Suranis » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:01 am

So, apparently Devin Nunes went on FOX tonight and said the following is underway: Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Wray will be impeached for contempt of Congress, as they have not handed over 1.2 million documents related to the Clinton email investigation, alleged FISA abuses, and Andrew McCabe's firing, which were subpoenaed by the House Intelligence Committee (chaired by Nunes) with an April 11 deadline.



Can we say... fuck I dunno, is this trying to fire Rodenstien without actually firing him (classic Cowardly Trump move) and putting in another guy who will fire Mueller and result in peaches and cream deserts for everyone without Trump doing the Saturday night massacre that the GOP does not want to have done again? Because that means they will have had TWO presidents who ran over the law and backed over it? And that means they will have to find a reason to impeach the NEXT Democratic President to balance the books...


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Impeach?; whatever. Convict?; nope.


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Post by fierceredpanda » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:05 am

:roll: Whatever. Everyone knows what Nunes' game is. He has no credibility.


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Post by Addie » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:07 am

CBS/AP
Bipartisan group of senators moving to protect Mueller's job

WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of four senators is moving to protect special counsel Robert Mueller's job as President Trump publicly muses about firing him, CBS News has confirmed. Republican Sens. Thom Tillis of North Carolina and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Democratic Sens. Chris Coons of Delaware and Cory Booker of New Jersey plan to introduce legislation Wednesday that would give any special counsel a 10-day window in which he or she could seek expedited judicial review of a firing, according to two people familiar with the legislation who spoke with The Associated Press, which was first to report the story. They weren't authorized to discuss the bill ahead of its release, and requested anonymity.

The legislation, which combines two bipartisan bills introduced last summer, signals escalating concerns in Congress as Mr. Trump has fumed about a Monday FBI raid of the office of his personal attorney, Michael Cohen. Mr. Trump has privately pondered firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and publicly criticized Mueller and his Russia probe. ...

After introducing similar bills in August, when Mr. Trump first began criticizing the Mueller probe, both Tillis and Graham had been quiet for months on whether the legislation was still needed as Democrats continued to push for a bill. Both Republicans said they didn't think Mr. Trump would really move to fire Mueller. But the senators moved to push out a new, combined bill in the hours after Mr. Trump's tirade.

Under the legislation, the expedited review would determine whether the special counsel was fired for good cause. The bill would also ensure that any staff, documents and other investigation materials were preserved as the matter was pending.

It's unclear if it could ever become law. Such legislation is unlikely to move through the House, and many Republicans in the Senate still expressed confidence Tuesday that Mr. Trump would not fire the special counsel.


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Post by Suranis » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm

Oh boy Lindsay "Trump gobbler" Graham. there goes our last best hope of victory. :brickwallsmall:


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:19 pm

Suranis wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:41 pm
Oh boy Lindsay "Trump gobbler" Graham. there goes our last best hope of victory. :brickwallsmall:
Let's see, other words for Graham: mercurial, impulsive, vengeful, self righteous, conflicted....


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Post by Addie » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:04 pm

Reuters
U.S. Senate Judiciary chairman seeks vote on special counsel bill - CNN

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The head of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee wants the panel to vote as soon as Thursday on a bipartisan bill aimed at protecting the U.S. Special Counsel investigating alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and possible collusion with President Donald Trump’s campaign, CNN reported.

Chairman Chuck Grassley, one of Trump’s fellow Republicans, told CNN the vote could get pushed back to next week, a CNN reporter said on Twitter. The bill combines two separate bipartisan measures introduced last year to protect the special counsel, Robert Mueller, and his probe.
Adding:
The Hill: Senate panel moves to take up bill protecting Mueller


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Post by pipistrelle » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:38 pm

But what about Rosenstein?



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WaPo (yesterday, so old news): Senate Republican leaders warn Trump but reject calls to pass legislation to protect Mueller:
Senate Republican leaders sharply warned President Trump not to fire Robert S. Mueller III on Tuesday — but they once again stopped short of embracing legislation to protect the special counsel.

* * *

“I haven’t seen clear indication yet that we needed to pass something to keep him from being removed, because I don’t think that’s going to happen,” said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). McConnell did not elaborate on why he believed that.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), McConnell’s top deputy, said he also didn’t believe Mueller would be removed. Asked why, he replied: “I think the consequences of doing so are some that not even the president can anticipate. And I think it would be a mistake.”

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) issued Trump a sharper warning. He said on Fox Business Network it would be “suicide for the president to want, to talk about firing Mueller.” The less the president said about it, Grassley noted, “the better off he would be, the stronger his presidency would be.”

* * *

“He’d have to fire Rosenstein first,” said Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said of Trump. “I’m not worried.”

* * *

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said she remained confident that Rosenstein would not take steps to terminate Mueller. “If the president were to fire the deputy attorney general, that would be an extraordinary crisis and a real problem,” she said. “And I just don’t think he’s going to do it.”
So the party line is wishful thinking.

It is generally believed that the president, legally, can't fire Mueller. The more likely route would be to fire Rosenstein (or Sessions). Rachel Brand was next in line, but she left to counsel Walmart; the acting associate general is Jesse Panuccio (a 2006 HLS grad).

Panuccio, however, is not senate confirmed, so the solicitor general would take over for Rosenstein.


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These people believe they have so much power that they can "warn" Trump and bad things won't happen. Talk about magical thinking.


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The Hill
DOJ gives House Intel original document that prompted Russia investigation

The Justice Department has provided House lawmakers with access to a two-page document that the FBI used to initiate its original counterintelligence probe into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.

All members of the House Intelligence Committee received access to the document, a Justice Department confirmed to The Hill on Wednesday.

Committee chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) had requested access to the unredacted document, complaining that previous "heavily" redacted versions were not adequate to the committee's own investigation.

Nunes said Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein allowed him and House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) to view the key document related to the FBI’s Russia probe one day after he threatened to hold FBI Director Chris Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in contempt and initiate impeachment proceedings against them if they did not comply with the request for the unredacted document.


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And what happened to Nunes’ recusal?



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Post by fierceredpanda » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:26 pm

pipistrelle wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:34 pm
And what happened to Nunes’ recusal?
He essentially un-recused himself once the Ethics Committee investigation into his conduct last year ended with his exoneration. That's been underreported.


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fierceredpanda wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:26 pm
pipistrelle wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:34 pm
And what happened to Nunes’ recusal?
He essentially un-recused himself once the Ethics Committee investigation into his conduct last year ended with his exoneration. That's been underreported.
Thanks. I've been wondering about that, and I did miss that. So he's back to being a complete partisan hack.



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Trump meets with Rosenstein at the White House

President Trump met with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on Thursday amid speculation his job could be in jeopardy.

The White House said the meeting was arranged to discuss “routine [Justice] Department business.”

Trump has railed against Rosenstein since Monday, when the FBI raided the home, office and hotel room of the president’s personal attorney in part due to a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.

Rosenstein is tasked with overseeing the Mueller probe into Russia’s election interference and reportedly signed off on the raid.

DEVELOPING ...


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Addie wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:37 pm
The Hill
Trump meets with Rosenstein at the White House

President Trump met with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on Thursday amid speculation his job could be in jeopardy.

The White House said the meeting was arranged to discuss “routine [Justice] Department business.”

Trump has railed against Rosenstein since Monday, when the FBI raided the home, office and hotel room of the president’s personal attorney in part due to a referral from special counsel Robert Mueller’s team.

Rosenstein is tasked with overseeing the Mueller probe into Russia’s election interference and reportedly signed off on the raid.

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I call bullshit on the highlighted passage. "Routine DOJ business" does not require the Deputy Attorney General to visit the White House, much less speak with POTUS. "Routine business" would be things like the NSC Deputies Committee meeting in the Situation Room, which Rosenstein would attend as a matter of course. And if it involved something other than the investigation, from which the Attorney General is recused, why wasn't Sessions there also?


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Mike Pompeo’s confusing answer about whether Trump asked him to intervene in the Russia investigation

One of the biggest questions hanging over Mike Pompeo's nomination as secretary of state is whether he's too willing to do President Trump's bidding.

An answer he gave at Thursday's confirmation hearing won't do anything to temper those suspicions.

Pompeo was asked about a March 2017 briefing after which Trump asked everyone except Pompeo and Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats to leave the room. According to The Washington Post's reporting, Coats later told associates that Trump had, in that smaller group, asked him to intervene with then-FBI Director James B. Comey to get him to back off investigating former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn. Trump also generally fumed about the Russia investigation, which Comey had confirmed just two days prior.

So, with Pompeo under oath, Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) sought clarity on the episode. He asked Pompeo whether Trump had made such a request. And Pompeo offered three distinct responses:
“I’m not going to talk about the conversations with the president that I had.”
“I don’t recall what he asked me that day, precisely.”
“He has never asked me to do anything that I consider remotely improper.”


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