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Post by Chilidog » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:03 pm

Schiff is right. there's no way this doesn't come back to bite them in the ass.



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Post by neeneko » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:15 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:03 pm
Schiff is right. there's no way this doesn't come back to bite them in the ass.
I disagree.

They read the wind and saw what their base wanted to hear. I doubt there will be any consequences for them, only votes. If nothing else, the dems have shown over the years they just don't have the stomach for revenge, so they will probably not even have to worry about that.



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Post by Kendra » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:25 pm


THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS, AFTER A 14 MONTH LONG IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION, FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION OR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.



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Post by Addie » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:54 pm

The Hill
Obama AG rips House Intel Republicans for ending probe: 'Politics beat a desire for the truth'

Former Attorney General Eric Holder tore into Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee for deciding to end the committee’s probe into Russian election interference, declaring that “politics beat a desire for the truth.”

“Republican House [Intelligence Committee] shut down Russia probe before doing a complete job,” Holder tweeted Monday.

“This is a coverup and a lasting stain on the reputation of what used to be a bipartisan Committee when it was run by Republican Rogers and Democrat Ruppersberger,” he continued.

Holder was referring to Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) and former Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), who used to lead the House Intelligence Committee during the Obama administration. Rogers is now serving as director of the National Security Agency.
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Daily Beast - Rick Wilson: The Walls Are Closing In on Trump

Nunes’ ‘investigation’ has shown Washington at its worst. It’s been a pure exercise in protecting Trump, and a low point for the GOP’s reputation as the party of national security.


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Post by Chilidog » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:57 pm

HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE
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Post by GreatGrey » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:04 pm

Devin has bigger fish to fry, he’s gonna investigate Twitter



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Post by Danraft » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:15 pm

The system to restrain an errant President is failing because the House has put Party over Country.
Today we have seen this blatant shirking of responsibility.
Tomorrow Trump will feel less restrained because he has proven untouchable.
Today, our representatives have failed us.


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Post by neeneko » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:15 am

Danraft wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:15 pm
The system to restrain an errant President is failing because the House has put Party over Country.
Today we have seen this blatant shirking of responsibility.
Tomorrow Trump will feel less restrained because he has proven untouchable.
Today, our representatives have failed us.
In their defense, representatives that put country over party tend to not get reelected voters response well to it.

At the end of the day, our representatives are a reflection of us.



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Post by gupwalla » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:19 am

The actual one-pager from the HPSCI GOP isn't completely horrible - news headlines will no doubt be swamped by the "no collusion" finding as well as the assertion that Putin did not prefer nor help Trump in the election (which may not make the final cut - at least one GOP committee member opposes that finding).

There are some good points, though, including findings for election security, greater campaign finance transparency, better cybersecurity, and more formalized guidance on counterintelligence practices in relation to political campaigns.

Last night I drank myself to the bottom of my keg of pessimism. This morning I'm re-hydrating with optimism. There is a bit of good in this draft report so I'll choose focus on that.


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Post by Dolly » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:53 pm

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Don't know where else to post this. I don't know what he is talking about.
Around the -0:30 time remaining mark, he says:
"when the reality is I had warned the Obama administration in early 2016 about this"
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Post by Addie » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:23 pm

Daily Beast
House Russia Probe Chief: Putin May Have Wanted Trump

Vladimir Putin might have wanted Donald Trump to win the 2016 presidential election, and he might not have; we just can’t know for sure. That’s the view House Republicans will put forward in a report set to be released in the coming weeks, according to one of the report’s authors.

Rep. Mike Conaway, the Texas Republican responsible for overseeing the House intelligence committee’s investigation into Russian election meddling, told The Daily Beast on Tuesday that his committee will challenge the way the Intelligence Community came to the conclusion that Putin wanted Trump to win. But he added that it’s still very possible that Putin was, in fact, pulling for Trump.

“We believe that the assessment of that issue by the few analysts who did it did not use the proper tradecraft,” Conaway said.

“Only Putin knows for sure what he was trying to do,” he added.

It’s a much more nuanced position than a one-page summary of the committee’s forthcoming report indicated. Last night, the committee posted a document saying its report would concur “with the Intelligence Community Assessment’s judgments, except with respect to Putin’s supposed preference for candidate Trump.”


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Post by Addie » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:43 pm

Lawfare blog: Document: House Intelligence Committee Minority Russia Investigation Status Report

The minority staff of the House intelligence committee released the following report on Tuesday evening. On Monday, the committee's majority announced that it had concluded its inquiry into possible Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.


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Post by Suranis » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:44 pm

CNN)Rep. Mike Conaway, the Texas Republican running the House Intelligence Committee's Russia probe, acknowledged that Russia was, in fact, trying to hurt the chances of 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton -- but he said whether one concludes it was designed to help Donald Trump get elected president is a "glass half full, glass half empty" thing.

Conaway responded to CNN questions about the GOP report announced Monday that concludes the intelligence community's assessment did not have evidence supporting its finding that Trump was aided by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The GOP report concludes that they agree with 98% of the intelligence community's January 2017 assessment that Russia meddled in the 2016 election, according to a committee aide and finds "Concurrence with the Intelligence Community Assessment's judgments, except with respect to Putin's supposed preference for candidate Trump."

The concern Republicans had, Conaway said, was with the "analytical tradecraft" the CIA used on that part of the assessment because the standards the CIA used "were not lived up to."

Conaway said Putin "was trying to hurt her or make her more difficult to be an effective president."

Asked how special counsel Robert Mueller's indictments of the Russians might make the case that the Russians sought to help Trump, he said "that is pretty irrelevant; we are doing our work."
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:55 pm

https://wonkette.com/631136/lordy-adam- ... -are-tapes
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LORDY, Adam Schiff Is Pretty Sure There Are Tapes


HPSCI Democrats decided Tuesday afternoon to go ahead and release a minority “status report” on the investigation, a 21-page document that exposes exactly how many loose ends the Republicans left, due to how they don’t care if a hostile foreign power stole our election, as long as it doesn’t affect their hold on power. The Atlantic‘s Natasha Bertrand said on Chris Hayes’s program Tuesday night that Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, ranking member of HPSCI, told her he wanted the document to serve as a roadmap for journalists, the Senate Intelligence Committee, and maybe even special counsel Robert Mueller, that in essence says, “Hey, finish this investigation, since the GOP leaders of our committee should probably be hanged for treason at this point, that is how bad they are.” (That is obviously a Wonkette-d up version of what Schiff said.)

The report? It is damning.

One revelation everybody is talking about is that Schiff ‘n’ Pals are pretty sure, FOR SOME REASON, that there are tapes related to Donald Trump’s attempts to obstruct former FBI director James Comey by the pussy: The Minority has a good faith reason to believe that the White House does in fact possess such documentation memorializing President Trump’s conversations with Director Comey.

This investigation is a long way from over. And every time a new story comes out, every time somebody else gets indicted, Devin Nunes will look even more like the traitorous (alleged) cow-fucker he allegedly is. Adam Schiff deserves a goddamned medal of honor for putting up with him all these months, and for all the patriotic work he’s done to this point.


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Post by Addie » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:12 pm

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House Intel to vote next week on final Russia report

(CNN)The House Intelligence Committee plans to vote March 22 on a final version of its report on the committee's Russia investigation, Rep. Mike Conaway told CNN Wednesday, although that report is still being revised.

Conaway, a Texas Republican leading the House's Russia probe, said the committee will vote on sending the Republican-drafted report to the intelligence community for declassification, and he was open to voting on sending a Democratic document for declassification, too.

The committee's time frame gives Democrats just over a week to negotiate with their Republican counterparts on the contents of the 150-page draft report, which Republicans shared with Democrats on Tuesday. While Democrats are at odds with the key findings laid out in the Republican report, Conaway said he was still hopeful they would sign on to some of what the Republicans had written, such as how Russia meddled in the election.

The report is still being edited, and there was a new version of the document Wednesday, according to a senior committee official.

After the committee votes next week, it's not clear how long the declassification process will take before any reports are made public, likely with redactions. Conaway said the committee also planned to vote to allow all House members to view the classified versions of the reports, just as the panel did for its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act memos.


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Post by Addie » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:29 pm

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A top House Republican just split from one of his party’s key findings on Russia. That’s a very big deal. ...

Even though Gowdy said he agrees with the rest of his committee's findings (most notably that there was no evidence of collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia), Gowdy has parted with Republicans on a significant issue. Trump likes to claim Russian interference had nothing to do with his win. Gowdy isn't claiming Russia swayed the election for Trump, but he is saying Russia at least tried. Gowdy also just gave a powerful talking point to Democrats, who say House Republicans' investigation is politically tainted.

Here's why:

1. Gowdy is the only Republican who read the classified surveillance from the CIA on Russia and Trump: Members of Congress don't send their own spies into Moscow to try to uncover the truth. They rely on intelligence gathered from U.S. spies, surveillance and other methods. As House Republicans were writing a memo alleging FBI bias when the bureau got a warrant to spy on former Trump campaign official Carter Page, it was Gowdy who read the secret warrant put together by the FBI. That means Gowdy had access to intelligence material that no other Republican on the committee did, and thus, ostensibly, has more insight into that intelligence.

2. Gowdy is not shy about partisan fights: Gowdy is one of the most aggressive GOP investigators in Congress. He worked side by side with House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) on that controversial memo, the one the FBI warned the public was cherry-picked to be political. You've probably heard his name in the context of the House investigation of the 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that happened when Clinton was secretary of state. Gowdy led an aggressive election-year investigation of the attacks, having Clinton sit for a 11-hour hearing during the presidential campaign and coming out with a report months before Election Day criticizing her for not doing more to protect the four Americans who were killed, including a U.S. ambassador.

3. Gowdy is retiring: Gowdy sits on the House Intelligence Committee, and he's chairman of the House Oversight Committee. He is among the half a dozen chairmen who have announced they won't run for reelection. Since then, Gowdy has been much more open about speaking his mind. “I've been a pretty lousy politician,” he said after announcing his retirement. Freedom from reelection means he can speak his mind on Russia, perhaps in a way other Republicans can't. Which brings us to our final point.

4. He's refusing to hand Trump his biggest wish: Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the ongoing Russia-Trump investigations knows that Trump desperately wants two things to come out of them:

1. To be cleared of collusion with Russia.

2. Not to have his extraordinary election win tainted by questions of whether Russia pushed him over the edge. Intelligence officials have said that although Russia did try to help Trump win, and the influence of its efforts is incalculable, there's no evidence Russia changed any vote after it was cast.
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Post by Addie » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:53 am

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House Republicans said Russia didn’t try to help Trump win the election. Now they’re backtracking. ...

Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA), who has served on the committee since 2015, told Vox that the original Republican assertion that Moscow hadn’t tried to help Trump may not even make it into the final report. A 150-page draft report was sent to Democrats Tuesday; it’s not clear when it will be made public, nor what changes — if any — Republicans will agree to make beforehand.

“It still looks like officially their report will say that there was a preference for Donald Trump,” Swalwell said in an interview. If true, that would mean the report itself would be at odds with Conaway’s initial assertions that Moscow hadn’t tried to help Trump.

The GOP retreat in assertions about Russia’s election meddling is the latest blow to the credibility of the House Republicans’ investigation, which Democrats have steadily derided as a partisan farce aimed at defending Trump from accusations of collusion rather than actually uncovering the truth.

On Tuesday night, Democrats fleshed out their critique and released a detailed 21-page list of investigative leads they say Republicans on the panel ignored, including 30 witnesses — like White House advisers Stephen Miller and Kellyanne Conway — that weren’t interviewed.


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Post by Addie » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:01 pm

NPR: House Intel Republicans Have Cleared Trump. So Are The Russia Investigations Over?


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Post by Addie » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:01 pm

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Trump Organization 'negotiated with sanctioned Russian bank in 2016'

Donald Trump’s private company was “actively negotiating” a business deal in Moscow with a sanctioned Russian bank during the 2016 election campaign, according to a memo by Democratic lawmakers investigating possible collusion between the campaign and the Kremlin.

The statement by Democrats on the House intelligence committee, who have had access to internal Trump Organization documents and interviewed key witnesses, raises new questions about the Trump Organization’s financial ties to Russia and its possible willingness to deal with a bank that had been placed under US sanctions.

Trump has personally denied that he ever had business dealings with Russia. In a tweet that was published shortly before his 2016 inauguration, he said he had “nothing to do with Russia – no deals, no loans, no nothing”.

But doubts about the veracity of that statement began to emerge last August, when the New York Times published emails from a longtime business associate of Trump called Felix Sater, who boasted that he had lined up financing for a Trump Tower in Moscow with VTB Bank, which is under US sanctions. ...

Now the memo released by Democrats suggests investigators have confirmed that the Trump Organization was deeply involved in Moscow talks, and that the talks involved a bank that was under US sanctions. The Democrats did not indicate the source of their information.

The Democrats’ statement came days after Republicans on the House intelligence committee said they had concluded that Trump’s 2016 campaign had not colluded with Russian operatives and that the committee was nearing the end of its investigation.


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Post by Addie » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:36 pm

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Republicans fear they botched Russia report rollout

House Republicans are privately venting that they’ve fumbled the release of their own Russia probe report.

The blaring headline the GOP wanted from this week’s rollout was clear: After a year of searching, Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee found no evidence that President Donald Trump or his associates aided Moscow’s scheme to interfere in the 2016 election but that the nation must still prepare for another assault from the Kremlin. Instead, much of the focus has been on lawmakers’ startling conclusion that the nation's intelligence agencies botched their analysis when they determined Russia wanted Trump to defeat Hillary Clinton.

The finding once again pitted the committee's Republicans against the leaders of the intelligence community and led to a frenzy of news coverage that put members on the defensive. And rather than seizing an opportunity to highlight the Russian threat and undermine lingering questions about the Trump campaign's Russian contacts, Republicans faced a political headache of their own making.

The muddled messaging was the subject of a closed-door meeting of committee Republicans on Wednesday. According to three sources briefed on the discussion, a frustrated Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) raised pointed concerns about why critiquing intelligence agencies was even mentioned at Monday’s rollout. The finding, after all, won't be included in the committee's official Russia report — it will be the subject of a second report issued later in the spring. But the decision to link it to the committee’s Russia findings scrambled the release.


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NRA lawyer said to have had concerns about group’s ties to Russia

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Congressional investigators have learned that a longtime attorney for the National Rifle Association expressed concerns about the group’s ties to Russia and possible involvement in channeling Russian money into the 2016 elections to help Donald Trump, two sources familiar with the matter say.

Cleta Mitchell, a former NRA board member who has done legal work for the organization, is on a newly disclosed list of people whom Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee are seeking to interview. Democratic investigators for that committee’s Senate counterpart also are interested in what she may know about relationships between the NRA or its allies and wealthy Russians, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The sources declined to detail the specific nature of the information prompting investigators’ interest in Mitchell, a prominent gun rights champion, election law specialist and veteran conservative operative.

Mitchell told McClatchy in an email that any suggestion she has concerns about the NRA's Russia connections is a "complete fabrication." ...

“Whether there was an effort by Russia to create a back channel or assist the Trump campaign through the NRA or gun-rights groups is an open question the committee’s minority has endeavored to answer for the past year,” California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement to McClatchy. “Much work remains to be done concerning that thread of our investigation, including conducting witness interviews and receiving relevant documents from several organizations and individuals.”


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Post by Volkonski » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:53 am




Rep. Eric Swalwell

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#BREAKING @HouseGOP to break their promise that you will see #TrumpRussiaInvestigation transcripts. We unearthed evidence of collusion and they’re seeking to bury it.
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Mother Jones
Democrats May Seek Prosecution of Witnesses Who Misled House Intelligence Committee

Erik Prince, Carter Page, and Roger Stone are among their top targets.

Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee are reviewing transcripts of interviews conducted during the panel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and plan to refer any witnesses who lied to the panel to the Justice Department for prosecution.

“We’re gonna be going through the transcripts and analyzing them for any concerns we have with the greater body of information we have,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) tells Mother Jones. “We’ll discuss it with the majority and ask whether they’ll join us in a referral, or, if we think one is warranted, then we reserve the right to make a referral even if they don’t.”

According to a source close to the committee, Democrats firmed up their plans to pursue criminal referrals this past week after their Republican colleagues abruptly announced they were ending the panel’s investigation. Democrats would send the referrals to the Justice Department and potentially directly to special counsel Robert Mueller.

Schiff and other Democrats have recently questioned the truthfulness of the testimony provided by three witnesses: Erik Prince, the former head of the security firm Blackwater and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos; Carter Page, a former Trump campaign national security aide; and Roger Stone, a longtime Trump political adviser. ...

Members of Congress are granted no special power to send criminal referrals to the Justice Department. Anyone can make one. But a referral by lawmakers would draw public notice and perhaps extra attention in Mueller’s office. Prosecutors there have already used false statement charges to win cooperation from three witnesses: Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser; Dutch lawyer Alex Van Deer Zwaan; and former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates. Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort also faces charges of making false statements to the Justice Department.


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Exclusive: Sources contradict Sessions' testimony he opposed Russia outreach

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ testimony that he opposed a proposal for President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign team to meet with Russians has been contradicted by three people who told Reuters they have spoken about the matter to investigators with Special Counsel Robert Mueller or congressional committees.

Sessions testified before Congress in November 2017 that he “pushed back” against the proposal made by former campaign adviser George Papadopoulos at a March 31, 2016 campaign meeting. Then a senator from Alabama, Sessions chaired the meeting as head of the Trump campaign’s foreign policy team.

“Yes, I pushed back,” Sessions told the House Judiciary Committee on Nov. 14, when asked whether he shut down Papadopoulos’ proposed outreach to Russia. Sessions has since also been interviewed by Mueller.

Three people who attended the March campaign meeting told Reuters they gave their version of events to FBI agents or congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 election. Although the accounts they provided to Reuters differed in certain respects, all threes, who declined to be identified, said Sessions had expressed no objections to Papadopoulos’ idea.

However, another meeting attendee, J.D. Gordon, who was the Trump campaign’s director of national security, told media outlets including Reuters in November that Sessions strongly opposed Papadopoulos’ proposal and said no one should speak of it again. In response to a request for comment, Gordon said on Saturday that he stood by his statement.


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