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gupwalla wrote:I do like the way Republicans are kindler and gentler about drugs since the worst drug problem of the moment afflicts largely rural, white, working class populations. Maybe we could even apply the same compassion to non-rural, non-white drug victims one day.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's noticed that!



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Post by TollandRCR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:34 pm

Trump knows nothing but bullying. He is the potentate, and Congress has to follow his orders.

I also think he is a thug and wonder how close his relationship is to the Mob. He had a good mentor in how to use the Mob without leaving a sign.


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Post by Chilidog » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:57 pm

Whatever4 wrote:But Melania can Just Say No in elebenty five languages!
And she can say "yes" in twenty more.



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Post by Foggy » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:45 am

TollandRCR wrote:I also think he is a thug ...
Thugs will beat you up. Trump will tweet asking when you're going to apologize for hurting his delicate little fee-fees. I have experience with real thugs, and he ain't one of them.


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Foggy wrote:
TollandRCR wrote:I also think he is a thug ...
Thugs will beat you up. Trump will tweet asking when you're going to apologize for hurting his delicate little fee-fees. I have experience with real thugs, and he ain't one of them.
Trump has thugs beating up protesters at his rallies, so - thug is as thug does.



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Senators urge Trump to avoid blockade of Venezuela oil shipments

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Four U.S. Senate Republicans from oil refining states urged the Trump administration on Thursday to not block oil shipments from Venezuela as part of U.S. sanctions against the country, saying it could raise costs for U.S. fuel consumers.

The United States sanctioned President Nicolas Maduro and other Venezuelan officials after Maduro established a constituent assembly run by his Socialist Party loyalists and cracked down on widespread opposition. It has not placed sanctions on the OPEC member's oil industry.

Senators John Cornyn of Texas, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, and Thad Cochran and Roger Wicker of Mississippi said in the letter, which was seen by Reuters, that unilaterally blocking oil exports could harm the U.S. economy and Venezuelan people.

The United States imports about 740,000 barrels per day of oil from Venezuela. ...

The senators said sanctions on shipments of Venezuelan oil to the United States could also increase the likelihood of a disorderly default by Venezuela, given the oil business is its main source of revenue. Creditors could then seize Venezuelan oil assets and cut off the government's remaining sources of financing.


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Gingrich: Trump handling the Senate 'badly'

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich criticized President Trump's lack of cooperation with the Senate amid broadsides the president has levied at Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell this week.

"It's not the Senate that's the problem," Gingrich said in an interview Friday on the Fox Business Channel. "But notice as much as much as I admire the president, and as much as I think he's handling North Korea well, I think he's handling the Senate equally badly."

While Gingrich is not the first to point out Trump’s hesitancy to align with Republicans, he pointed to specific tendencies in his vocabulary as his primary fault in his working relationship with the Senate.

“The fact is, first of all, look at the language he uses,” Gingrich said. “It’s not a ‘he-us’ kind of situation. The president is on the field. He’s not an owner sitting up in the box. He’s one of the players.” ...

“I disagree with this entire strategy — if it is a strategy,” Gingrich said. “Mitch McConnell is going to be the Republican leader of the Senate, end of story.”


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Post by Addie » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:48 pm

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Trump attacks on McConnell won’t improve his weak showing in Congress ...

Trump has not only failed to win repeal of what became Obamacare, but he has made no progress at all on other top legislative objectives. The White House has not even proposed either tax reform details or an infrastructure plan. ...

Republicans have already shown diminished patience with Trump's behavior – by turning toward bipartisan health care legislation, for example, despite the president's demand that they try again to repeal Obamacare. They've warned Trump not to fire special counsel Robert Mueller as the former FBI director's investigation into Russia's election interference poses mounting danger to the White House.

On tax cuts, Republicans face the same internal divisions that sunk them on health care. With 2018 midterm elections looming, however, Trump's criticism of McConnell and others won't preclude action. ...

But turning on his allies now curbs his ability to shape the direction of an effort that's dauntingly complex under the best of circumstance.

"Trump has now forced many GOP senators to choose: Trump or McConnell," observes Steve Bell, a former top GOP Senate aide now at the Bipartisan Policy Center. "McConnell, if he wishes to challenge Trump on a major measure, will win a majority of the GOP caucus."


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GOP senator: Congress 'obviously' not authorizing war in Venezuela

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) fired back at President Trump on Friday, saying Congress “obviously isn’t authorizing war in Venezuela” after Trump said he wouldn’t rule out using a military option in the country.

“No, Congress obviously isn’t authorizing war in Venezuela,” Sasse, a member of the Senate Armed Services committee, said in a statement. “Nicolas Maduro is a horrible human being, but Congress doesn’t vote to spill Nebraskans’ blood based on who the Executive lashes out at today.”


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Addie wrote:The Hill
GOP senator: Congress 'obviously' not authorizing war in Venezuela

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) fired back at President Trump on Friday, saying Congress “obviously isn’t authorizing war in Venezuela” after Trump said he wouldn’t rule out using a military option in the country.

“No, Congress obviously isn’t authorizing war in Venezuela,” Sasse, a member of the Senate Armed Services committee, said in a statement. “Nicolas Maduro is a horrible human being, but Congress doesn’t vote to spill Nebraskans’ blood based on who the Executive lashes out at today.”
Remind people who actually dies during war and why it should be a very, very last resort. All those men and women killed and maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Notice Bush, Cheney, et al., all still walking around and in one piece.



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Post by Foggy » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:42 pm

... Congress doesn’t vote to spill Nebraskans’ blood based on who the Executive lashes out at today.”
A Republican who won't even call him "President Trump". Not a good sign for the Executive. :P


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Post by Addie » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:34 am

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Think Obamacare repeal was hard? Wait for tax reform

Congressional Republicans need to think again if they're hoping tax reform will offer them an easy victory after their bungled Obamacare repeal effort.

Rewriting the tax code will be just as difficult as health care — maybe even more so. While every Republican loves a tax cut, the GOP is divided over how -— or even whether — to pay for them. The fault lines are as much about lawmakers' parochial concerns as they are about party identity, further complicating the task of cobbling together a majority.

That's not to mention the procedural hurdles that could stall the tax debate, or the crowded congressional calendar that could push reform to the back burner. And with the 2018 election season kicking off in just four months, time is not on the Republicans' side.

Here are five reasons why tax reform could end up a bigger quagmire than Obamacare repeal: ...


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Post by ZekeB » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:43 am

Republican tax cuts will be easy: Are you in the top one percent? If yes, you taxes will be cut in half.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:44 am

ZekeB wrote:Republican tax cuts will be easy: Are you in the top one percent? If yes, you taxes will be cut in half.
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Post by Foggy » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:40 am

On June 1 he said, "Our tax bill is moving along in Congress, and I believe it's doing very well. I think a lot of people will be very pleasantly surprised."

So the tax bill is doing just fine, thanks! :mrgreen:


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Senate Republicans getting fed up with Trump

President Trump’s relationship with Senate Republicans is deteriorating by the day.

Senate Republicans are getting fed up with what they see as Trump’s lack of discipline and chaotic leadership style. Several are criticizing him more openly than ever before. ...

McConnell also this week came out with a forceful statement condemning white-power groups in Charlottesville, which media outlets quickly seized on as a counterpoint to Trump’s response. ...

In the book, Flake warns that “conservatism has become compromised by other powerful forces — nationalism, populism, xenophobia” as reflected by Trump’s rise to power.

He wrote that Trump’s “seeming affection for strongmen and authoritarians” has created “a cognitive dissonance among my generations of conservatives.”


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The Other Devil's Bargain

The Republican majorities in Congress gambled they could ignore Trump's misdeeds, and still get him to sign their bills—but it’s not working out as they expected.
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Trump, of course, has not helped in the way a standard president would—bringing lawmakers along, participating in logrolling and horse-trading, using his own expertise to find the right formulas. Trump’s tone-deafness to politics and Congress, his complete lack of knowledge of major policy areas, and his narcissism have made the tasks of Ryan and McConnell more difficult, not less. The classic example: After leading a victory celebration at the White House, spiking the proverbial football when an Obamacare repeal bill passed the House, the president subsequently told Republican senators that the bill he had extolled was “mean,” then held an embarrassing session with those senators in which he threatened one (Dean Heller of Nevada) with the loss of his seat and showed no understanding at all of the issues at stake in the various alternatives. Trump also demanded passage of the big tax reform proposal by September, demonstrating ignorance both of the need to pass a new budget resolution before tax reform can be considered, the time required to craft a reform package, and the demands of pressing deadline decisions that will dominate the fall.

At the top of the September agenda: Republicans in Congress face both a showdown over the debt ceiling and a possible shutdown of parts of the government over deep disagreements in their own ranks on spending numbers and priorities. On the debt ceiling, instead of providing leadership or cover for congressional Republicans, the Trump team has been deeply divided, with Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin pleading for a simple, straightforward clean debt ceiling increase, while OMB Director Mick Mulvaney first called for using the debt ceiling for leverage to get much deeper spending cuts, then said reluctantly that he could support a straight increase, but made clear he saw no real downside to a breach. Trump, after saying during the campaign that debt renegotiation and bankruptcy can be good things, has been AWOL on the debt-ceiling negotiations.

Now, of course, the dynamic has become much more complicated and treacherous, as the casual threat of attack on North Korea, the machinations and dysfunction inside the Trump White House, and the president’s stunning and defiant embrace in his press conference of white supremacists and anti-Semites, have made the fate of must-pass legislation more dicey. Most Republicans have been forced to spend immense time and energy defending the indefensible or attacking it while not directly criticizing the president, and at the same time coping with their party’s stained image. A dysfunctional, defiant, scandal-plagued president may actually preclude success at passing any core conservative policy priorities, and a narcissist in the White House, stung by the lack of celebratory Rose Garden signing ceremonies, or by the turmoil that will accompany default or shutdown, might then blame his own partisans for the failures.

All of a sudden, a devil’s bargain becomes a devilish disaster. And if that happens, look for more and more congressional Republicans to seek a way out, to find a path to avoid full scale revolt at the grass roots while still ending up with a more pleasant and pliant President Pence.


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Trump distances himself from GOP lawmakers to avoid blame if agenda stalls

President Trump is strategically separating himself from Republicans in Congress, an extraordinary move to deflect personal blame if the GOP agenda continues to flounder.

Trump deepened the fissures in the party on Thursday when he charged the top two leaders on Capitol Hill with mismanaging a looming showdown over the nation’s borrowing authority. Republican lawmakers and aides responded to Trump’s hostility with broadsides and warnings of their own.

Frustrated by months of relative inaction across Pennsylvania Avenue and emboldened by his urge to disrupt the status quo, Trump is testing whether his own political following will prove more potent and loyal than that of his party and its leaders in both houses of Congress.

The growing divide comes at an inopportune moment for Washington, however. In addition to having to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a fiscal crisis, Republicans face September deadlines to pass a spending bill to avert a government shutdown, as well as pressure to fulfill a key campaign promise by rewriting the nation’s tax laws.

Behind the scenes at the staff level, some Republicans described a more functional relationship between aides and lawmakers on Capitol Hill and White House officials. But in public, Trump is waging war against lawmakers. With a pair of morning tweets, Trump said he asked Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) to include a debt-ceiling increase in a recent veterans bill.


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Post by Addie » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:32 pm

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GOP taken aback by Trump’s verbal bombs

President Trump’s public fights with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and other Republicans are just making it tougher to move his agenda, say GOP aides, strategists and former senators.

Republicans say the hard feelings between the White House and Senate leader will only complicate the task of passing tax reform, keeping the government funded and raising the debt ceiling — three top items on the fall agenda.

“It makes it much more difficult obviously. It’s much easier when you got everyone on the same page, in the same boat and pulling in the same direction,” said former Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), who was a counselor to McConnell when he served in the Senate.

A former Senate Republican leadership aide said Trump is only alienating allies by lashing out at them over Twitter.

“Every time the president goes on a Twitter rant he either alienates people whose votes he needs, wastes time that should be spent building a public case for his policies or gives Democrats something to hammer,” said the source.


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Post by Addie » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:26 pm

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Republicans don’t know who to talk to at White House

With Reince Priebus and Stephen Bannon both out, Republicans on Capitol Hill are asking who they can talk to at the White House ahead of a crucial, difficult stretch in the legislative calendar.

The summer departures of Trump’s first chief of staff and chief strategist have created something of a communications vacuum along Pennsylvania Avenue, since Priebus and Bannon did the “bulk of the outreach” on Capitol Hill, GOP sources said.

Priebus’s replacement, new chief of staff John Kelly, the former Homeland Security secretary and a retired Marine general, is respected on both sides of the aisle but doesn’t have long-standing relationships on the Hill.

Several GOP lawmakers told The Hill they don’t personally know Kelly, and there are questions on the right about whether he’ll be a champion for conservative causes as he tries to restore stability to a White House mired in turmoil.

“There is great respect for John Kelly but no real belief that anyone else can effectively carry out the Trump agenda until Kelly replaces Bannon with a conservative leader,” one House GOP lawmaker told The Hill.


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Post by kate520 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:49 pm

WTF is anyone - citizens or their representatives - standing for this middle school drama in the White House!?! It's pure bullshit. There're serious problems to address that this impotent toddler can't even see let alone fix.

I need to stop paying attention for a few days. I can feel my gaskets straining. PM me if he resigns.

Frankly, I'm nervous maybe even frightened. It feels like something big is about to blow up.


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Post by Addie » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:59 pm

Me, too. I haven't had a decent night's sleep in two weeks. That never helps.
kate520 wrote:Frankly, I'm nervous maybe even frightened. It feels like something big is about to blow up.


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McCain: 'We don’t answer to' Trump

Arizona Sen. John McCain made clear in an op-ed Thursday that he believes Congress does not fall secondary to President Donald Trump — instead calling on Congress to return to regular order to accomplish the things Trump can't.

"We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities," McCain wrote in a Washington Post op-ed Thursday night. "We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people."

McCain made the plea to a Congress that faces continued gridlock as it returns from August recess next week, and wrote out how it is the responsibility of Congress to serve as a check to the president's power — pointing to Trump's lack of experience in public office.

"Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct," the Arizona senator wrote.

"We must be diligent in discharging our responsibility to serve as a check on his power," he wrote. "And we should value our identity as members of Congress more than our partisan affiliation."
WaPo OpEd - John McCain: It’s time Congress returns to regular order
WaPo - Amber Phillips: 'We are not his subordinates': John McCain's rallying cry to the GOP resistance


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Paul Ryan, other GOP congressional leaders urge Trump not to terminate DACA

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and other Republican leaders in Congress on Friday urged President Trump not to terminate an Obama-era program that has allowed nearly 800,000 undocumented immigrants known as “dreamers” to live and work in the country without fear of deportation.

Ryan said in a radio interview that it was up to Congress to determine the fate of the immigrants enrolled in Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which offers two-year work permits to those who have been in the country illegally since they were children.

Asked if Trump should follow through on campaign pledges to end DACA, Ryan told WCLO in his hometown of Janesville, Wis.: “I actually don’t think he should do that. I believe that this is something that Congress has to fix.”

Ryan acknowledged that Republican lawmakers balked when Obama created the program through executive action in 2012, calling the move an unconstitutional use of his powers. But Ryan said the undocumented immigrants “are people who are in limbo. These are kids who know no other country, who were brought here by their parents and don’t know another home. And so I really do believe there that there needs to be a legislative solution.”

The Trump administration is facing a Tuesday deadline to rescind DACA or face a lawsuit from Texas and nine other states. The president has reportedly been split between competing advice from his advisers. Immigration hardliners, including Attorney General Jeff Sessions, have said the program would lose in court while moderates, such as Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, have said terminating it would be a political liability.


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