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Post by Addie » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:14 pm

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Congress shoves Dreamer fix down the docket

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When President Donald Trump urged lawmakers to draft a new law that would stop him from deporting young people brought illegally into the country as children, Republicans and Democrats alike eagerly scrambled to make it happen.

Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., held a press conference to tout their “Dream Act” while Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., and Rep. Carlos Curbelo, R-Fla., began pushing a bill they view as a compromise for conservatives who want to take a harder line against illegal immigrants.

But now – just one week later – much of that momentum is already gone.

The dynamics have completely changed on Capitol Hill. Two devastating storms landed Congress a multi-billion-dollar aid fight. Trump and Congressional leadership want a big tax deal passed into law, and Republicans are still fuming about a separate agreement the president struck with Democratic leaders on the debt ceiling and government spending that hands the opposition party the advantage in negotiations on all of those issues.


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Post by Addie » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:20 pm

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Trump won't insist border wall funds be tied to DACA relief: aide

(Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will not necessarily insist that funding for a border wall with Mexico be included in legislation to address protections for children brought to the United States illegally, a senior aide said on Tuesday.

The comments from White House legislative director Marc Short were welcomed by Senator Dick Durbin, a senior Democrat who has been working for the past 16 years to legislate protections for the so-called Dreamer children.

"That's an important position because we cannot make a 2,200 mile wall (3,540 km) a condition for passing the Dream Act and we've been very clear from the start," Durbin said in a brief Senate hallway interview.

Durbin added that Democrats are willing to work with the White House and congressional Republicans on other border security measures as part of the legislation, however.


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Post by Addie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:23 pm

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Trump, top Democrats agree to work on deal to save ‘dreamers’ from deportation

Democratic leaders announced late Wednesday that they agreed with President Trump to pursue a legislative deal that would protect hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants from deportation and enact border security measures that don’t include building a physical wall.

The president discussed options during a dinner at the White House with Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that also included talks on tax reform, infrastructure and trade. Trump has showed signs of shifting strategy to cross the aisle and work with Democrats in the wake of the high-profile failures by Republicans to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

A possible alliance between Trump and the Democrats on immigration would represent a major political gamble for a president who made promises of tougher border control policies the centerpiece of his campaign and pledged to build a “big, beautiful wall” along the U.S.-Mexico border. A majority of Republicans, especially in the House, have long opposed offering legal status, and a path to citizenship, to the nation’s more than 11 million undocumented immigrants. ...

Congressional aides familiar with the exchange said that Trump and the party leaders agreed to move quickly on legislation to protect dreamers, though aides did not disclose whether they agreed that the goal should be for dreamers to eventually be offered a path to citizenship.

In a statement, Schumer and Pelosi said they had “a very productive meeting at the White House with the President. The discussion focused on DACA. We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.”
Note: Sarah Sanders is denying the part, "excluding the wall."


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Post by Orlylicious » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:36 pm

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Is Donald Trump a Democratic secret agent?
Anthony Zurcher North America reporter 11 December 2015

Republican leaders are currently thrashing about - holding secret meetings, issuing confidential memos and making public denunciations - as they approach a state of near panic over what Donald Trump is doing to their party. It's enough to make some believe that Mr Trump may not have the Republican establishment's best interests at heart.

Could Donald Trump be a secret double-agent, sent by Democrats to destroy their party from within? Former Florida governor Jeb Bush, who has borne the brunt of more than a few Trump barbs, seems to think there's a possibility. "Maybe Donald negotiated a deal with his buddy Hillary Clinton," Mr Bush tweeted this week, after Mr Trump cited a poll showing his supporters would stick with him if he left the Republican Party. "Continuing this path will put her in the White House."

The New York billionaire has a spotty political history, at best. He was a Republican, then he was a pro-choice Democrat, and now he's a fire-breathing, anti-immigration populist conservative.

Could this latest iteration of Mr Trump's political brand be just a ruse, the elaborate cover for a liberal saboteur who has spent the past year setting explosives that threaten the unity of the party he pledged to support?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35066940
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Post by Turtle » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:46 pm

Sean Hannity‏ Verified account @seanhannity 26m 26 minutes ago

Well Mitch GREAT JOB! You failed so miserably with Healthcare and "excessive expectations" now @POTUS has to deal with Dem Leaders!
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Post by much ado » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:30 am

OMG! Republicans are coming to the stark realization that they MIGHT HAVE ELECTED THE WRONG PERSON! :eek2:


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Post by Foggy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:17 am

Whoa, so drugging him with roofies really worked! :mrgreen:


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Post by maydijo » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:41 am

So it would seem Schumer and Pelosi have worked out how to play the Don. They will have to be careful though; if they overplay their hand, the Republicans will impeach, Pence will become POTUS, and everything will turn to poo again.



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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:01 am

Orlylicious wrote::thumbs: :lol:



Is Donald Trump a Democratic secret agent?
Anthony Zurcher North America reporter 11 December 2015

Republican leaders are currently thrashing about - holding secret meetings, issuing confidential memos and making public denunciations - as they approach a state of near panic over what Donald Trump is doing to their party. It's enough to make some believe that Mr Trump may not have the Republican establishment's best interests at heart.

Could Donald Trump be a secret double-agent, sent by Democrats to destroy their party from within? Former Florida governor Jeb Bush, who has borne the brunt of more than a few Trump barbs, seems to think there's a possibility. "Maybe Donald negotiated a deal with his buddy Hillary Clinton," Mr Bush tweeted this week, after Mr Trump cited a poll showing his supporters would stick with him if he left the Republican Party. "Continuing this path will put her in the White House."

The New York billionaire has a spotty political history, at best. He was a Republican, then he was a pro-choice Democrat, and now he's a fire-breathing, anti-immigration populist conservative.

Could this latest iteration of Mr Trump's political brand be just a ruse, the elaborate cover for a liberal saboteur who has spent the past year setting explosives that threaten the unity of the party he pledged to support?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35066940
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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:36 am

To be fair, all it takes to get Trump to do what you want is tell him he'll be the most beloved president evah, maybe even getting his own Mt. Trump. It's not like he had any principles to begin with. Everything begins and ends with him.


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Post by Suranis » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:50 am

maydijo wrote:So it would seem Schumer and Pelosi have worked out how to play the Don. They will have to be careful though; if they overplay their hand, the Republicans will impeach, Pence will become POTUS, and everything will turn to poo again.
If that's what it takes to get Trump impeached, I'll take it. Pence will be dragged down with The orange Avacado as he wont be able to hide behind Donald anymore, and the guy was a colossal failure as a Gov of Indiana. Believe you me, Pence is already working to do damage, it will be a lot better to have him front and center rather than having him in the shadows.

So, its a choice of getting everything you want, or getting Trump Impeached and really getting everything you want. I'll take it.


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Post by June bug » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:34 am

Trump tweets this morning on DACA (read top to bottom):
No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote.
The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.
Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....
...They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security
Ryan Lizza tweets:
Trump this morning: one tweet insisting there's no deal and two tweets outlining the exact deal Pelosi and Schumer announced last night.



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Post by Addie » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:11 am

The Hill
Dems: Trump's tweets 'not inconsistent' with DACA agreement

Democratic leaders on Thursday clarified that they did not reach a final deal with President Trump on protections for young immigrants protected by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

"President Trump's tweets are not inconsistent with the agreement reached last night," Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement.

The Democratic leaders said there was "no final deal" reached during their meeting Wednesday with the president. But they added they agreed that the president would "support enshrining DACA protections into law, and encourage the House and Senate to act."

"What remains to be negotiated are the details of border security, wth a mutual goal of finalizing all details as soon as possible," the statement said.


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Post by gupwalla » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:12 am

Good for DREAMers that there looks like room for compromise on that point.

But the wall - gag - I can't even talk about it. :sick:
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Post by June bug » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:10 am

Trump's latest from Florida is that Democrats must promise never to obstruct funding for the wall or he won't support DACA legislation.

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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:56 pm

June bug wrote:Trump's latest from Florida is that Democrats must promise never to obstruct funding for the wall or he won't support DACA legislation.

I.hate.this.man.
Trump's negotiating style is interesting at best. He made the promise of "no wall in DACA legislation", got his ass chewed by his base, then first tweets disagreement about agreement, then gives all the arguments for a clean DACA bill. Now he is "nibbling" for a promise that could never be made by the Democrats ever. That probably worked in his "business" cuz people would get tired of dealing with him or wanted the deal so badly they would agree to whatever ludicrous terms no matter what their lawyer might advise.

I like Schumer and Pelosi saying Trump still agrees with the no wall agreement. What a way to mess with his head! Will McConnell and Ryan now say Trump never promised that? :dazed: :he_made_me: :popcorn: Popcorn and Twitter futures are up!

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Post by Orlylicious » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:42 pm

Their little heads are exploding. Steve Bannon is a great help! :lol:
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What the hell was Mike Cernovich's "highly successful mindset work?"

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Post by RoadScholar » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:37 pm

OK, arguendo... if white people really were so vastly superior to brown people... shouldn't they find it no problem to compete against them for the available jobs, no matter at what level? :think:


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Post by much ado » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:02 pm

RoadScholar wrote:OK, arguendo... if white people really were so vastly superior to brown people... shouldn't they find it no problem to compete against them for the available jobs, no matter at what level? :think:
There is clearly a vast conspiracy that prevents the whites from winning the competition for jobs, otherwise the whites would win. Like, ya know, duh! :doh:


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Post by maydijo » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:17 pm

June bug wrote:Trump's latest from Florida is that Democrats must promise never to obstruct funding for the wall or he won't support DACA legislation.

I.hate.this.man.
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Post by Addie » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:23 pm

Reuters
Trump says immigration deal with Democrats close, without border wall

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Thursday he was close to a deal with Democratic congressional leaders on protections for illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children, astounding fellow Republicans again while alarming conservative supporters.

Trump said any final agreement must include border security measures including surveillance systems but would not include funding for his planned wall along the U.S.-Mexican border, a central 2016 campaign promise. Trump said the wall would “come later” and warned Democrats not to obstruct it.

Trump described the parameters of an agreement on the fate of the roughly 800,000 so-called Dreamers reached in his White House meeting on Wednesday evening with top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer and top House of Representatives Democrat Nancy Pelosi.

“We have to have an understanding that, whether it’s in the budget or some other vehicle, in a very short period of time the wall will be funded. Otherwise, we’re not doing anything,” Trump said after landing in Florida to survey hurricane damage.

Schumer and Pelosi reiterated their opposition to the wall, and Democrats in the past have promised to block funding for it.


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