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Post by Dan1100 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:03 pm

Well, I guess someone sues him to force him to implement it. I think in Maine the legislature can just pass another law, the governor sign it, and overrule a referendum. That's why weed stores are getting delayed and the rules are changing.
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That's what happened here with concealed carry. People voted against it, but the NRA got to the legislature and got it passed anyway. Now, almost all referendums (referenda??) are done as constitutional amendments so that doesn't happen.


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Post by BrianH » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:31 pm

This is some of the most sublime trolling ever. Go Jimmy K!




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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:19 pm

Jimmy Kimmels prior shot at Trump / for Care




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Post by MsDaisy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:12 pm

Senate Plans to End Obamacare Mandate in Revised Tax Proposal
WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans have decided to include the repeal of the Affordable Care Act’s requirement that most people have health insurance in a sprawling overhaul of the tax code, merging the fight over health care with the high-stakes effort to cut taxes.

Repealing the so-called individual mandate, as President Trump had urged, would help Republicans with the difficult math problem they face in refining their tax plan. But it also risks reigniting the contentious debate over health care that Republicans found themselves mired in for much of the year.

“I’m pleased the Senate Finance Committee has accepted my proposal to repeal the Obamacare individual mandate in the tax legislation,” said Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas, who had pushed for the mandate to be eliminated as part of the tax bill. “Repealing the mandate pays for more tax cuts for working families and protects them from being fined by the I.R.S. for not being able to afford insurance that Obamacare made unaffordable in the first place.”

In order to be protected from a Democratic filibuster, the tax bill can add no more than $1.5 trillion to federal budget deficits over a decade, and it cannot add to the deficit after a decade. Eliminating the mandate would free up more than $300 billion over a decade that could go toward tax cuts, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
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Post by tek » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:23 pm

ISTR Collins and Murkowski saying they were not on board with that.. but of course they may still be bought off..


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Post by June bug » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:37 am

On the ACA, Congressional Republicans are like the Walking Dead. They just keep on coming.



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Post by Addie » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:06 pm

Bloomberg
Obamacare Signups Are Up 47% From Last Year So Far

Americans signed up for Obamacare at a brisk pace for a second straight week, an early sign that Republican efforts to repeal or undermine the law earlier this year may have backfired.

Americans enrolled in almost 1.5 million Affordable Care Act health plans on healthcare.gov in the first 11 days of the open enrollment period, a 47 percent increase over a similar period last year.

The numbers came out just as Republican lawmakers made a last-minute addition to their tax bill that would eliminate the law’s requirement that all Americans have coverage or pay a fine -- a policy known as the individual mandate.

It’s hard to gauge what the acceleration means for the Obamacare marketplaces overall, because consumers have only half the time to enroll in plans on healthcare.gov this year. Even a stronger-than-expected start could end with fewer people signing up by the time the window closes Dec. 15.


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Post by Addie » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:40 am

The Hill
Dem senator jokes: 'Moment of weakness' led me to share photo comparing Trump, Obama

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) joked that he had a “moment of weakness” on Twitter Wednesday night after he shared an image comparing photos of President Trump and former President Obama. ...

The tweet Leahy shared compared a photo of Obama to Trump with the caption “ObamaCare vs. TrumpCare…you decide.”
I KNOW I shouldn't have retweeted this. A moment of weakness... https://t.co/xjRpsc3V93
— Sen. Patrick Leahy (@SenatorLeahy) November 15, 2017

Obamacare vs. trumpcare...you decide. pic.twitter.com/eoJtFp3ZLC
— Tomthunkit™ (@TomthunkitsMind) November 15, 2017
Leahy’s tweet comes after Senate Republicans announced Tuesday that the Senate tax bill will include a repeal of the ObamaCare individual mandate.

Experts have predicted repealing the mandate would undermine the stability of ObamaCare. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has said 13 million people would lose health insurance.


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Post by Orlylicious » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:28 pm

We need another big push to the Senate, our votes need to be heard.




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Post by Skip Intro » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:31 pm

You're not going to demand the Senate remove the tax break for my personal jet, are you?


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Post by Volkonski » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:51 pm

Whatever happened to the Gray Panthers?

Will America's elders rise up and oppose Trump on behalf of their children and grandchildren?


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Post by Skip Intro » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:05 pm

The ones I know all voted for trump. Seriously.


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Post by tek » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:44 pm

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index. ... river_home
BOSTON -- Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker signed a law on Monday requiring state insurers to cover birth control without a copay.

"This legislation will ensure no woman in Massachusetts, irrespective of what goes on in Washington, will worry about whether her health care services and rights will be affected here in the commonwealth," Baker, a Republican, said after signing the bill at a ceremony in the State House library.
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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:33 pm

Murkowski says she backs Obamacare mandate repeal
By DAN DIAMOND 11/21/2017 08:33 PM EST Updated 11/21/2017 09:24 PM EST

Sen. Lisa Murkowski says she supports GOP efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act's individual mandate, the Alaska Republican wrote in an op-ed for a local newspaper Tuesday.

"I have always supported the freedom to choose," Murkowski wrote in her op-ed for the Daily News-Miner, an Alaska newspaper. "I believe that the federal government should not force anyone to buy something they do not wish to buy, in order to avoid being taxed."

Murkowski's renewed support for repealing the mandate — after repeatedly opposing her party's Obamacare repeal bills this year — may be a boon for Senate Republicans' tax legislation, which includes mandate repeal and is expected to be taken up on the Senate floor next week.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/ ... eal-257557



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Post by Slim Cognito » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:37 pm

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... ill-308286
“When the individual mandate is being repealed, that means Obamacare is being repealed. Because they get their money from the individual mandate,” Trump told reporters during a Cabinet meeting at the White House. “Obamacare has been repealed in this bill.”
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Post by Slim Cognito » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:44 pm

Susan Collins is the newest entry on Dead To Me.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), in the face of staunch GOP opposition, is letting Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) slide away from his promise to pass legislation stabilizing health insurance premiums before year’s end.

Collins previously said she had an "iron-clad" commitment to get it done before the new year but with Congress set to recess in a few days, time is running out.
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Post by tek » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:10 pm

the biggest problem with all of this is that the shit won't hit the fan until after the 2018 elections. Well played.
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Post by Addie » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:31 pm

Business Insider
'Truly remarkable': Trump's meddling barely slowed down Obamacare sign-ups at all

Even without its namesake in office, the law known as Obamacare barely slowed down in 2017.

Seema Verma, the administrator of the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare, said Thursday that 8.8 million people enrolled in insurance plans for 2018 through the federal Healthcare.gov exchange.

That falls just 400,000 short of the 9.2 million that enrolled in 2017 plans, meaning the current sign-up period drew just under 96% of last year's enrollment.

The number was particularly surprising given the Trump administration's attempts to meddle in the sign-up period. It dramatically slashed the budget for outreach and advertising and cut the enrollment window to just six weeks rather than three months.

There was a significant surge in the last few days of enrollment. As of December 9, just a few days before the December 15 deadline, 4.6 million were people enrolled. CMS said more than 4.1 million people, including those who automatically enrolled, signed up in the final week.


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Post by Addie » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:24 am

Business Insider
Gary Cohn makes wild claim that White House has already done what Amazon, Berkshire Hathaway, and JPMorgan just did with healthcare

An unexpected announcement Tuesday from JPMorgan, Berkshire Hathaway, and Amazon on a healthcare venture sending shockwaves through the market. Top White House adviser Gary Cohn said he has already seen it before.

Cohn, the National Economic Council director and President Donald Trump's top economic advisor, said the new mega-venture seems to be similar to an executive order Trump signed in October.

"We're doing the same thing here at the White House," Cohn told CNBC. "If you look what we did earlier last year, we created association healthcare plans, which is the exact same thing that those three companies did."

Cohn is referring to an executive order that allows for the expanded use of association health plans (AHPs). The plans allow pools of workers, mostly from small businesses, to join together to access the group healthcare market —rather than going through the individual insurance exchanges.

They also allow the workers and small businesses to go around the Affordable Care Act exchanges and access plans that may not do not meet certain ACA requirements.


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Post by kate520 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:52 pm

Association health plans have not worked out well in the past. Our experience is probably similar to many others’. First off, there must be enough people in the pool to keep premiums down, but our industry association had so many ridiculous requirements that kept people out of the pool that it failed. Things like: had to have been in the industry for x number of years, have x number of employees. Very small businesses, the ones these policies are designed to help, were cut out. Our association group never signed up enough members to get off the ground. Plus, the policies available were terrible.

Forbes agrees:

But those who have studied insurance sales across state lines and past efforts dating to the 1980s of small groups to band together to compete with health plans say they haven’t worked. And when association health plans offering skimpier benefits have operated in the past, consumers have suffered and established insurers have stayed away from offering bare-bones policies as analysts expect they will do this time.


“AHPs do have a poor track record, both in terms of insolvency and also, unfortunately, of fraud,” Sabrina Corlette , professor with the Center on Health Insurance Reforms at Georgetown University who is also the consumer representative to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners said Thursday.

Trump said Thursday these new plans will draw “millions” of consumers to lower rates and policies free of “Obamacare” rules and regulations under the Affordable Care Act.

"The health insurance sold via the AHP could become exempt from consumer protections such as the essential health benefits standard and the prohibition on charging higher premiums to people with preexisting conditions," Corlette and colleague Kevin Lucia wrote for The Commonwealth Fund. "The result would be increased risk for higher premiums and fewer plan options on the individual market, as well as fraud and insolvency."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapse ... 1a7f12748e


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Post by Addie » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:37 pm

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Obamacare will survive as Republicans give up on repeal

The Affordable Care Act is going to survive.

The 2010 health care law has slowly but surely moved out of the line of fire. President Trump barely mentioned it in his State of the Union address Tuesday night. At their annual retreat this week in West Virginia, top Republicans signaled that the repeal dream is likely over.

After Doug Jones won the Alabama special Senate election in December, the bare Republican Senate majority has no viable path left for a more substantial repeal plan; the math in a 51-seat majority is too daunting. Sens. Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) remain opposed to taking up repeal. Senate leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has already said that Republicans would probably move on from health care.

So the party’s long-held promise to repeal Obamacare root and branch appears to be actually, finally dead. Of course, that hasn’t stopped Trump claiming, after his party’s tax overhaul passed in December with a repeal of the law’s individual mandate, that Republicans “have essentially repealed Obamacare.” But he’s wrong about that.

Repealing the individual mandate is a legitimate blow to the Obamacare marketplaces, but doing so won’t unravel the markets entirely. They will function worse than they did before, and premiums will likely rise.


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Post by Addie » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:09 pm

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Despite Trump, Obamacare records strong enrollment

WASHINGTON — About 11.8 million people signed up for an insurance plan through Obamacare in the 2018 enrollment period, according to a new report, a small 3.7 percent drop from the 12.2 million who enrolled in 2017.

The new data was released on Wednesday by the nonpartisan National Academy for State Health Policy, which researches health care issues.

"For the first time we now have the full national picture of how the individual marketplaces did this year and it is a picture of remarkable stability," Trish Riley, the group’s executive director, said in a statement.

The final figures include both customers who signed up through the federal exchange, which covers 34 states and ended enrollment on December 15 with about 8.7 million sign-ups, and the remaining state-based marketplaces, some of which had longer enrollment periods. Among the state-based exchanges, enrollment was up slightly compared to last year while it declined 5.3 percent on the federal exchange.

"Despite all the uncertainty and challenges we have seen, particularly for consumers living in states supported by state-based marketplaces, we see millions of Americans continuing to benefit from the coverage they get in the individual market," Riley said.


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Post by RTH10260 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:49 pm

North Texas teacher dies after getting the flu
By William Axford Updated 10:38 am, Monday, February 12, 2018

Holland's husband said she started feeling sick last Monday. By Wednesday, she was diagnosed with influenza-b and developed pneumonia.

A North Texas teacher has died from complications from the flu.

Heather Holland, a second-grade teacher at Ikard Elementary School with the Weatherford Independent School District died over the weekend, the Weatherford Democrat reports. Holland got sick about a week ago and took medication, but delayed picking up the prescription due to the $116 copay, according to the newspaper.

By Friday night, Holland's condition worsened and she was taken to the hospital. Her husband Frank Holland told the Weatherford Democrat that she died Sunday morning.


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