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Post by Addie » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:46 pm

[link]Politico,http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/b ... z2WDIBIlyb[/link]





Bills would clip NSA's wings on phone data





Senators critical of the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs are rushing to introduce legislation to limit the feds’ snooping ability.





Sens. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), are pitching a bill that would require a demonstrated link to terrorists or international spies for the intelligence community to collect phone call data.





The legislation would modify the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 by requiring “reasonable grounds” to be shown that data collection is relevant to an “authorized investigation” on foreign terrorists or espionage programs, according to a [link]draft obtained,http://images.politico.com/global/2013/ ... s13806.pdf[/link] by POLITICO.





And Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) dropped [link]a bill,http://www.sanders.senate.gov/imo/media ... %20Act.pdf[/link] late Thursday much in harmony with the Udall-Wyden legislation, although it goes further by squashing the assumption that people “known to” suspected spies or terrorists are relevant to data-mining investigations.





Sanders also seeks to open up reports of these investigations to all members of Congress, rather than just members of intelligence and judiciary committees. Wyden and Udall sit on the Senate Intelligence Committee; Sanders does not.
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Post by Addie » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:37 am

[link]HuffPo,http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 42228.html[/link]





Justin Amash NSA Amendment Earns White House Condemnation





WASHINGTON -- In a sign of growing concern over Congress's reaction to the revelations of National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, the White House publicly announced its opposition to a House push to block the spy agency's bulk collection of ordinary Americans' phone records on Tuesday.





Reacting to a defense appropriations amendment sponsored by Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) to curb the NSA's vast program of collecting and storing phone records, White House press secretary Jay Carney said, "We oppose the current effort in the House to hastily dismantle one of our Intelligence Community’s counterterrorism tools.





"This blunt approach is not the product of an informed, open, or deliberative process," Carney continued in a statement.





The White House rarely comments on an amendment before it reaches the floor of even one chamber of Congress. That, coupled with an emergency briefing NSA Director Keith Alexander held for members of Congress on Tuesday, appears to show that senior administration officials are seriously worried about the possibility of congressional action to stop the mass domestic surveillance.





Amash's amendment has attracted bipartisan supporters, including Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.). Debate on his measure is likely to begin on Wednesday, with a vote on Wednesday or Thursday.
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Post by A Legal Lohengrin » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:49 pm

I hate to reserve an opinion on this, because I generally trust both Conyers and Sanders, but I think legislation like this would benefit from establishing a select committee akin to the [/break1]wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee]Church Committee. Hasty overreactions and carelessly drafted legislation to address last week's news are often worse than the problem they attempt to address.

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Post by MetoDC » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:56 pm

I hate to reserve an opinion on this, because I generally trust both Conyers and Sanders, but I think legislation like this would benefit from establishing a select committee akin to the [/break1]wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee]Church Committee. Hasty overreactions and carelessly drafted legislation to address last week's news are often worse than the problem they attempt to address.I have to find something to disagree with LOH about (sometime), but this isn't it - variation on "bad facts make bad law" (court opinions). We rushed into this in the first place out of fear and loathing. It might be nice to make an intelligent, well-informed choice this time around. Any. Day. Now.MetoDC

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Post by Addie » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:18 pm

I agree absolutely.
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Post by Addie » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:13 pm

Live pre-vote yakking going on.[/break1]c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/]http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/Amash Amendment #100: Stop NSA’s Blanket Surveillance of AmericansOn Wednesday, the House will have its first floor debate over NSA’s blanket collection of Americans’ telephone records. The Amash-Conyers amendment—and only the Amash-Conyers amendment—ends the indiscriminate collection of those records. The amendment limits the government’s collection of records under Section 215 of the Patriot Act to those records that pertain to a person who is subject to an investigation under that provision.
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Post by esseff44 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:38 pm

I agree absolutely.Me, fourth.

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Post by Addie » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:22 pm

[link]USA Today,http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... a/2584607/[/link]





House rejects plan to kill NSA data collection





WASHINGTON – Lawmakers on Wednesday voted down an amendment that would have blocked the National Security Agency from collecting massive volumes of phone records on domestic calls.





The vote in the House of Representatives was a blow to critics of the collection of so-called metadata by the NSA.





The proposal was among the first significant challenges to a program that has drawn scrutiny after a former NSA contract employee leaked details of it.





The amendment, which was attached to a defense spending bill, would have required the government to show any collection of data is related to a specific individual. The amendment failed by a vote of [highlight]217 to 205[/highlight].
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Post by Addie » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:11 pm

This new poll is pre-vote (July 17-21).





[link]Politico,http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/n ... z2aBPuex4i[/link]





Poll: Half approve of NSA program





Most Americans are suspicious they aren’t being told the full truth about the National Security Agency’s surveillance program, but half still approve of the program overall, according to a new poll released Friday.





Fifty percent of Americans approve of the NSA program while 44 percent disapprove, according to the poll from the PEW Research Center.





Despite the overall approval, 70 percent of those surveyed said they thought the government uses this data for purposes other than investigating terrorism. Similarly, 63 percent of those surveyed said they believed the government was collecting information about content of communications, not just metadata. Of that group, 27 percent said they thought the government had listened to their calls or read their emails, while 28 percent did not.





Of the respondents who believed the government was collecting data beyond terrorism, 19 percent thought the data was being used to spy or “be nosy.” More than one in ten, 13 percent, thought the government had a political agenda.





The debate over the NSA program hit the House floor Wednesday when a vote on an amendment to curb the collection of phone data was narrowly defeated.
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Post by Addie » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:17 pm

Some kind of "informal" hearing on 7/31.





[link]Talking Points Memo,http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... e-congress[/link]





Glenn Greenwald To Testify Before Congress





A congressional hearing next Wednesday on the National Security Agency's surveillance efforts will include testimony from critics, including the journalist who first reported on the programs.





Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) told The Guardian that he's working with other lawmakers to spearhead the hearing in order to rebut "constant misleading information" from the intelligence community. It will not be a formal hearing, but will feature rougly a dozen lawmakers from both parties.





Grayson said that The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald, who reported on the surveillance programs based on information provided by NSA leaker Edward Snowden, has been invited to participate in the hearing via video conference from his home in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Greenwald indicated over Twitter on Friday that he will participate.
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Post by BFB » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:44 pm

Some kind of "informal" hearing on 7/31.





[link]Talking Points Memo,http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... e-congress[/link]





Glenn Greenwald To Testify Before Congress





A congressional hearing next Wednesday on the National Security Agency's surveillance efforts will include testimony from critics, including the journalist who first reported on the programs.





Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) told The Guardian that he's working with other lawmakers to spearhead the hearing in order to rebut "constant misleading information" from the intelligence community. It will not be a formal hearing, but will feature rougly a dozen lawmakers from both parties.





Grayson said that The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald, who reported on the surveillance programs based on information provided by NSA leaker Edward Snowden, has been invited to participate in the hearing via video conference from his home in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Greenwald indicated over Twitter on Friday that he will participate.Just give an attention whore more attention. He's a fucking journalist, or at least he's supposed to be. That means he writes the stories and keeps his mouth shut.

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Post by Addie » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:49 am

[link]NPR,[/link]





Who Spies More, The United States Or Europe?





The House of Representatives last week rejected legislation that would have limited the data the NSA can collect from Americans. But the margin was narrow, and House leaders predict more efforts to bring the NSA under tighter control.





U.S. intelligence officials were put on the defensive by the vote, arguing that regulation of government surveillance programs is tighter in the United States than in many other countries. ...





"According to the Max Planck Institute, you're 100 times more likely to be surveilled by your own government if you live in the Netherlands or you live in Italy," Baker said. "You're 30 to 50 times more likely to be surveilled if you're a French or a German national than in the United States."





Joris van Hoboken of the Institute for Information Law at the University of Amsterdam says those numbers are generally accurate. But he points out that many of the surveillance orders are issued by police departments, not by intelligence agencies like the NSA. He cites his own country.





But U.S. officials also argue that the legal restrictions on surveillance are tighter here. Christopher Wolf, a lawyer specializing in privacy, recently co-wrote a study comparing the extent to which spy investigations have to get outside approval, in the United States and in Europe.
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Post by Addie » Thu May 22, 2014 1:33 pm

[link]Associated Press,http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/22/50 ... bs-on.html[/link]





House passes curbs on NSA surveillance





WASHINGTON — The House on Thursday passed legislation to end the National Security Agency's bulk collection of American phone records, the first legislative response to the disclosures by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.





Although the compromise measure was significantly "watered down," in the words of Democrat Jan Schakowsky of Illinois, it passed by a vote of 303 to 120, with 9 members not voting. ...





The USA Freedom Act would codify a proposal made in January by President Barack Obama, who said he wanted to end the NSA's practice of collecting the "to and from" records of nearly every American landline telephone call under a program that searched the data for connections to terrorist plots abroad.





The bill instructs the phone companies to hold the records for 18 months-which they already were doing— and lets the NSA search them in terrorism investigations in response to a judicial order. The phone program was revealed last year by Snowden, who used his job as a computer network administrator to remove tens of thousands of secret documents from an NSA facility in Hawaii.





The measure now heads to the Senate. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., the chairwoman of the intelligence committee, has said she is willing to go along with a similar idea.
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