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https://nypost.com/2017/12/12/ex-speake ... ssion=true
Ex-Speaker Hastert barred from being left alone with minors

CHICAGO — A federal judge in Chicago on Tuesday ordered that Dennis Hastert never be left alone with anyone under 18 unless another adult is present who is aware of the former US House speaker’s conviction in a hush-money case that revealed he had sexually abused several high school students.

US District Judge Thomas M. Durkin didn’t explain in his brief order why that and other new restrictions on the 75-year-old were called for now, three months into his two-year period of supervised release from prison.

Others included barring Hastert from possessing pornography and using “any sex-related telephone numbers.” He also must allow — and pay for — the installation of software that records all his computer activity, from browser history to email correspondence and internet chats.

Among the conditions Durkin set during sentencing in 2016 was that Hastert undergo intensive sex-offender treatment, which is designed to gauge the risk molesters still pose to children. One common treatment for sex offenders involves a penile plethysmograph, which gauges a known molester’s physical reaction to specific images.


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Post by AndyinPA » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:27 am

I read the article. It would be interesting to know the details of why they added these restrictions.



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:33 am

AndyinPA wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:27 am
I read the article. It would be interesting to know the details of why they added these restrictions.
Yes, it would, but the reasons were in a sealed envelope given to the judge by Hastert's probation officer.


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Post by Kendra » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:04 pm

Lengthy, but worth a read.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... n-activity
On Tuesday, in a convention center in West Palm Beach, Florida, amid chants of “USA!” and “The wall is going to be built!,” Donald Trump, Jr., kicked off a three-day annual summit for Turning Point USA, a conservative nonprofit. Based outside of Chicago, Turning Point’s aim is to foment a political revolution on America’s college campuses, in part by funnelling money into student government elections across the country to elect right-leaning candidates. But it is secretive about its funding and its donors, raising the prospect that “dark money” may now be shaping not just state and federal races but ones on campus.

Turning Point touts its close relationship with the President’s family. The group’s Web site promoted Don, Jr.,’s appearance for weeks, featuring a photo of him raising a clenched fist. Its promotional materials include a quote from the younger Trump praising Turning Point: “What you guys have done” is “just amazing.” Lara Trump, the wife of Don, Jr.,’s brother Eric, is also involved with the group. In West Palm Beach on Wednesday, she hosted a luncheon promoting Turning Point’s coming Young Women’s Leadership Summit. The group’s twenty-four-year-old executive director and founder, Charlie Kirk, told me that he counts Don, Jr., as “a personal friend.”

Turning Point casts itself as a grassroots response to what it perceives as liberal intolerance on college campuses. Kirk has called college campuses “islands of totalitarianism”; he and his supporters contend that conservatives are the true victims of discrimination in America, and he has vowed to fight back on behalf of what he has called his “Team Right.” Kirk is a frequent guest on Fox News, and last summer he was invited to give a speech at the Republican National Convention. That was where he met Donald Trump, Jr., and “hit it off” with him, Kirk said. After the convention, Kirk divided his time between Turning Point activities and working for the Trump campaign as a specialist in youth outreach. “I helped coördinate some rather successful events with him,” Kirk told me, referring to Don, Jr., “and I also carried his bags.” When friends threw Kirk a surprise birthday party earlier this year, Don, Jr., attended, as did Sebastian Gorka, the former Trump White House adviser.



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Post by Kendra » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:07 pm

More here. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... reports-of

Trump praises conservative group one day after report alleging racial bias

President Trump on Friday tweeted his support for Charlie Kirk and the conservative group Turning Point USA one day after an investigation by The New Yorker that uncovered racist text messages sent by a former top official in the organization.

Trump tweeted his thanks to Kirk for the activist's praise of Trump's job performance early Friday, lamenting that the mainstream media ignored his administration's achievements in 2017.

"'The President has accomplished some absolutely historic things during this past year.' Thank you Charlie Kirk of Turning Points USA. Sadly, the Fake Mainstream Media will NEVER talk about our accomplishments in their end of year reviews. We are compiling a long & beautiful list," Trump tweeted.



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Post by AndyinPA » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:28 pm

Pete Hoekstra tried lying to the press in The Netherlands. It didn't go so well.

https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/trum ... iled-twice
He was being interviewed for a current affairs program by reporter Wouter Zwart.

“You mentioned in a debate that there are no-go zones in the Netherlands, and that cars and politicians are being set on fire in the Netherlands,” Zwart said.

“I didn’t say that. This is actually an incorrect statement. We would call it fake news," Hoekstra insisted.

Ha, ha! He called it "fake news"!

The reporter then showed clips of Hoekstra doing just that.
And then Hoekstra doubled down.



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Post by GhostOfSolomon » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:57 pm

Not that there is anything wrong with that (or behaving badly).

Also not sure where to put this so here it goes...


Lindsey Graham’s new self-published memoir, My Story, offers a peek into his colorful past, including his “rascally” upbringing in a South Carolina bar, several failed romances, and the origins of an extremely unflattering nickname: Stinkball.
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Post by NMgirl » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:04 am

Eric Greitens, Governor of Missouri, has admitted to an affair. Greitens is one of those "family values" asswipes. Blackmail by the governor is alleged. Spicy!

http://www.kmov.com/story/37240190/gove ... tal-affair
Woman: "He said: "I'll make you feel better. I'll make you feel good. Come downstairs. I want to show you how to do a proper pull-up. And I knew he was being sexual and I still let him. And he used some sort of tape, I don't what it was, and taped my hands to these rings and then put a blindfold on me.”
She went on to say that some of his actions-scared her.

Woman: "I didn't even know. I feel like I don't even know. I was just numb. I just stood there and didn't (expletive) know."
She went on, describing what Greitens allegedly did next that made her feel sick.

Woman: “He stepped back, I saw a flash through the blindfold and he said: "you're never going to mention my name, otherwise there will be pictures of me everywhere."



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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:50 am

NMgirl wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:04 am
Eric Greitens, Governor of Missouri, has admitted to an affair. Greitens is one of those "family values" asswipes. Blackmail by the governor is alleged. Spicy!

http://www.kmov.com/story/37240190/gove ... tal-affair
Woman: "He said: "I'll make you feel better. I'll make you feel good. Come downstairs. I want to show you how to do a proper pull-up. And I knew he was being sexual and I still let him. And he used some sort of tape, I don't what it was, and taped my hands to these rings and then put a blindfold on me.”
She went on to say that some of his actions-scared her.

Woman: "I didn't even know. I feel like I don't even know. I was just numb. I just stood there and didn't (expletive) know."
She went on, describing what Greitens allegedly did next that made her feel sick.

Woman: “He stepped back, I saw a flash through the blindfold and he said: "you're never going to mention my name, otherwise there will be pictures of me everywhere."
Missouri has lost their damn minds. I ran screaming from the state six years ago and never looked back. They replaced Democrat Jay Nixon with this (to be fair, he was term-limited). McCaskill is on the endangered list for November. She needs another Todd Akins to win the republican primary or she's toast, and I doubt the Mo GOP will make that mistake again.


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Post by NMgirl » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:29 pm

An allegation that Greitens physically assaulted (slapped) the mystery woman has arisen. The fact that the accuser remains anonymous is bothersome, to say the least.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... ing-affair

Greitens was considered an up-and-coming star, on the national level, of the Republican party. :think:



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Post by Volkonski » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:39 pm

NMgirl wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:29 pm
An allegation that Greitens physically assaulted (slapped) the mystery woman has arisen. The fact that the accuser remains anonymous is bothersome, to say the least.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... ing-affair

Greitens was considered an up-and-coming star, on the national level, of the Republican party. :think:
Probably doesn't want to have her house burned down as happened to Roy Moore's accuser.


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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:04 pm

NMgirl wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:29 pm
An allegation that Greitens physically assaulted (slapped) the mystery woman has arisen. The fact that the accuser remains anonymous is bothersome, to say the least.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... ing-affair

Greitens was considered an up-and-coming star, on the national level, of the Republican party. :think:
I thought her ex-husband was the accuser?



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Post by Dan1100 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:16 pm

My mother called twice and she was very excited about the Governor's adulterous sleezery and his inevitable downfall.

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Post by NMgirl » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:40 pm

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:04 pm
NMgirl wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:29 pm
An allegation that Greitens physically assaulted (slapped) the mystery woman has arisen. The fact that the accuser remains anonymous is bothersome, to say the least.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... ing-affair

Greitens was considered an up-and-coming star, on the national level, of the Republican party. :think:
I thought her ex-husband was the accuser?
That's the way it has been reported: "her ex-husband." No name has been revealed, so far as I know.



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Post by Whatever4 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:01 pm

W2 was telling me about this one. He said it included blackmail, which I heard as “a black male.” :o


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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:06 am

NMgirl wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:40 pm
Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:04 pm
NMgirl wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:29 pm
An allegation that Greitens physically assaulted (slapped) the mystery woman has arisen. The fact that the accuser remains anonymous is bothersome, to say the least.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... ing-affair

Greitens was considered an up-and-coming star, on the national level, of the Republican party. :think:
I thought her ex-husband was the accuser?
That's the way it has been reported: "her ex-husband." No name has been revealed, so far as I know.
The rape shield laws would probably protect the woman unless she chooses to make her name known, and I suspect her husband can't or won't name her without her agreement. Since she is not the one who stepped forward it doesn't surprise me she hasn't been identified yet. I'm sure she will be at some point if she decides to pursue it, but for now there's no real reason to release her name publically. Most media outlets refuse to name victims as a matter of course, and often decline to name other family members to protect the victim's identity also.

Considering he's already admitted the affair there's really no reason to name the victim unless and until she pursues charges.



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The new US ambassador to The Hague has apologised for saying Muslim migrants had created “no-go zones” and “burned” politicians in the Netherlands.

In extracts from an interview with De Telegraaf newspaper to be published in full on Saturday, Pete Hoekstra said that with hindsight, “I’m shocked I said it. It was a misstatement. It was simply wrong.”

Hoekstra, a Dutch-born former Republican congressman who was Donald Trump’s pick to represent the US, added: “I got countries mixed up. I got it wrong, and I don’t know how it could have happened.”

During a panel discussion in 2015, Hoekstra said “the Islamic movement” had caused “chaos in the Netherlands – there are cars being burned. There are politicians that are being burned and, yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands”.
Is he sure he is in the right country now? ;)


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Post by AndyinPA » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:32 pm

He's a republican and a liar. That's how he got it wrong. He was always a dim bulb.



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:13 pm

Yes, the country he was talking about was Sweestria. He thought that was where he was going when he was appointed ambassador. Imagine his surprise to find himself in . . . where is that again?



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:56 am

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Trump’s ambassador to the Netherlands admits, finally, he spread fake news about the Netherlands

The newly-appointed U.S. ambassador to the Netherlands, Pete Hoekstra, has finally admitted that he was wrong to say that there were “no-go” zones in the country where Muslim youths were burning politicians and cars.

When interviewed last month at the U.S. Capitol by the Dutch news program Nieuwsuur, Hoekstra completely denied making the remarks, calling it “fake news” — despite his entire speech being captured on video. But the controversy did not die down. When Hoekstra held his first press conference at the Netherlands he was greeted by question after question on his fake claims about “no-go zones” in the country. “Everybody there had one question: That crazy statement you made, are you going to withdraw it,” Dutch political reporter Roel Geeraedts told the Washington Post. “We were not getting answers so we all kept asking it.” The remarkable back-and-forth was captured on video.

On Friday, however, Hoekstra finally admitted defeat, telling the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that he had made the remarks, that he was “shocked” by them and that they were factually incorrect.

“That was a wrong statement. That was just wrong. [It was] clearly an inaccurate statement,” Hoekstra said. “That one shocked me personally… because while you know there have been other issues in other countries in Europe, you know that has never been the circumstances here.”

The State Department said on Thursday that it did not agree with Hoekstra’s incendiary remarks.


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Hoekstra, a Dutch-born former Republican congressman who was Donald Trump’s pick to represent the US, added: “I got countries mixed up. I got it wrong, and I don’t know how it could have happened.”

During a panel discussion in 2015, Hoekstra said “the Islamic movement” had caused “chaos in the Netherlands – there are cars being burned. There are politicians that are being burned and, yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands”.
How does one say "the Netherlands" TWICE when one means another country? How how how? Is he gonna 'splain that?



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Post by Estiveo » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:35 pm

I'm sure he meant Normay.


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Post by vic » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:49 pm

pipistrelle wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:05 pm
Hoekstra, a Dutch-born former Republican congressman who was Donald Trump’s pick to represent the US, added: “I got countries mixed up. I got it wrong, and I don’t know how it could have happened.”

During a panel discussion in 2015, Hoekstra said “the Islamic movement” had caused “chaos in the Netherlands – there are cars being burned. There are politicians that are being burned and, yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands”.
How does one say "the Netherlands" TWICE when one means another country? How how how? Is he gonna 'splain that?
Especially given that he was born there. Perhaps he got the Netherlands confused with Holland.
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:22 am

http://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-c ... ssion=true
Here’s the good news for Gov. Eric Greitens in the midst of this scandal
The crisis-management textbook dictates that in a situation like this, a public figure should speak before real citizens with his wife at his side. The public official should apologize profusely and with as much sincerity as can possibly be mustered. The official should then submit to answering questions from the media for as long as any reporter is willing to ask them.

In other words, you eat crow and insist the whole time that it tastes pretty good.

But Greitens isn’t there, and that’s troubling. A story: A few days ago, Rep. Nate Walker, a Kirksville Republican, received a call from Greitens, who has phoned a lot of lawmakers, sometimes with his wife beside him, to discuss the scandal. Walker was an early supporter of the governor’s but was troubled by their conversation.

Even in the privacy of that phone call, Greitens declined any accountability, Walker said. The governor blamed Democrats for leaking the story. He called it fake news. He took aim at the liberal media.

By Tuesday, Walker had decided to go public with his own conclusion: Greitens should resign.


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