2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:58 pm

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Pelosi seems like she's having the most fun she's ever had in Congress.

I'm tellin' y'all, WATCH HER FACE. :thumbs:
That picture was priceless, she really did look like she was about to choke from trying not to laugh. So he finally threw his temper tantrum, wondr if he stamped hims widdle feet?


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by Volkonski » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:05 pm

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Per @JDiamond1 Kushner and WH Legislative Director Shahira Knight just walked into Sen. Lindsay Graham's office.

3:43 PM - 9 Jan 2019
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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by Foggy » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:11 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:58 pm
Foggy wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:41 pm
Pelosi seems like she's having the most fun she's ever had in Congress.

I'm tellin' y'all, WATCH HER FACE. :thumbs:
That picture was priceless, she really did look like she was about to choke from trying not to laugh. So he finally threw his temper tantrum, wondr if he stamped hims widdle feet?
The next few tweets ought to be a lot of fun. He can't throw a real screaming fit at Nancy while she's surrounded by other men, but you know he wanted to!

And she's having the time of her life.

I tells ya, I have been a miserable duck rooster. I. CAN. NOT. SHAKE. THIS. COLD.

But today is a GOOD day. :thumbs:


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by kate520 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:12 pm

:shock: Are they ganging up on Murkowski after she said she’d vote yes to reopen the government? Portman gave a statement yesterday that he was against declaring an emergency.

Man, what I wouldn’t give to be a fly on one of those walls right now. :mrgreen:


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Post by Volkonski » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:13 pm

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Today we are introducing a bill to prohibit creditors and landlords from taking action against any federal employee or contractor hurt by the Trump shutdown. It’s the least we can do. Would be great to have a few Republican cosponsors.


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Post by Reality Check » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:14 pm

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I am surprised this suggestion wasn't included.
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Post by Volkonski » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:15 pm

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House Republicans mostly hold the line. Only EIGHT Rs join Dems to vote YES to reopen parts of the government. Defections held under double digits.


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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:17 pm

Addie wrote:
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Post by Maybenaut » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:26 pm

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The Coast Guard told families to consider having garage sales and acting as "mystery" shoppers to cover lost wages from shutdown. The Coast Guard removed this tipsheet after inquiry from @DanLamothe
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Active duty members of the Coast Guard are still required to show up for work, so I guess they're supposed to have these garage sales, give music lessons, babysit, dog-walk, and all of this other income-generating activity on their off time.


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:30 pm

Volkonski wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:13 pm
Brian Schatz @brianschatz

Today we are introducing a bill to prohibit creditors and landlords from taking action against any federal employee or contractor hurt by the Trump shutdown. It’s the least we can do. Would be great to have a few Republican cosponsors.
A bit late to introduce such a bill. Is the department that publishes legislation prior to go active in shutdown too? Are the employees (DOJ?) that need to draw the detailed rules on this proposed law in shutdown too? Will the shutdown really go on for months that such legislation can even get thru to the dotus' signature and applied in real life? And how would a landlord know where his tenants are employed, especially when they are contractors?



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Post by Mikedunford » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:37 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:26 pm
neonzx wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:31 pm
Volkonski wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:20 pm


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Active duty members of the Coast Guard are still required to show up for work, so I guess they're supposed to have these garage sales, give music lessons, babysit, dog-walk, and all of this other income-generating activity on their off time.
I suspect this might be another good example of the armed forces' longtime habit of assuming that spouses will handle shit while the active duty family member is otherwise occupied.


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by Maybenaut » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:39 pm

Mikedunford wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:37 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:26 pm
neonzx wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:31 pm

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Active duty members of the Coast Guard are still required to show up for work, so I guess they're supposed to have these garage sales, give music lessons, babysit, dog-walk, and all of this other income-generating activity on their off time.
I suspect this might be another good example of the armed forces' longtime habit of assuming that spouses will handle shit while the active duty family member is otherwise occupied.
Right, because they're just sitting around watching The View anyway, right?


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by Maybenaut » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:41 pm

The Washington Post is saying that eight House Republicans broke ranks and sided with the Democrats on funding.

Are we starting to see cracks? :pray:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ba0bc7b0b1


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by ZekeB » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:42 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:39 pm
Right, because they're just sitting around watching The View anyway, right?
The show with those five women who are always talking over one-another? Geez I can't change the channel fast enough. :dazed:


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by HeatherGray » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:43 pm

Garage sales? With what? They are military. They don't have a lot of extraneous shit they can sell.



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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by Mikedunford » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:53 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:30 pm
Volkonski wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:13 pm
Brian Schatz @brianschatz

Today we are introducing a bill to prohibit creditors and landlords from taking action against any federal employee or contractor hurt by the Trump shutdown. It’s the least we can do. Would be great to have a few Republican cosponsors.
A bit late to introduce such a bill. Is the department that publishes legislation prior to go active in shutdown too? Are the employees (DOJ?) that need to draw the detailed rules on this proposed law in shutdown too? Will the shutdown really go on for months that such legislation can even get thru to the dotus' signature and applied in real life? And how would a landlord know where his tenants are employed, especially when they are contractors?
This bill actually started as a suggestion that someone made to him on Twitter, and he said that he'd given it to his legislative staff a couple of days ago.*

Legislation is drafted by Congress, not executive departments, so the shutdown wouldn't affect the process. Individual Senators have relatively large staffs, which typically include several legislative aides, who have a range of responsibilities that include drafting legislation when needed. In this case, the drafting process would have been greatly simplified because there's an existing federal law that provides similar benefits to active duty personnel, making it relatively simple to draft.



*I've been told by people I trust that Sen. Schatz handles his Twitter account personally.


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Re: 2018-2019 Government Shutdown

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Post by Mikedunford » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:54 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:39 pm
Mikedunford wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:37 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:26 pm


Active duty members of the Coast Guard are still required to show up for work, so I guess they're supposed to have these garage sales, give music lessons, babysit, dog-walk, and all of this other income-generating activity on their off time.
I suspect this might be another good example of the armed forces' longtime habit of assuming that spouses will handle shit while the active duty family member is otherwise occupied.
Right, because they're just sitting around watching The View anyway, right?
That's the official duty station for a military spouse. Or so I've been told.


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Post by Mikedunford » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:00 pm

HeatherGray wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:43 pm
Garage sales? With what? They are military. They don't have a lot of extraneous shit they can sell.
You'd be surprised, actually. Especially where senior NCOs and officers are concerned. I think our total move weight was in the neighborhood of 7 tons last time, and we weren't all that close to our maximum allowable.


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Post by tek » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:03 pm

Wouldn't such a regulation be government over-reach?

I mean, this restricts legal action against a certain class of people.. could landlords etc then choose to not deal with that class of people?

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Post by SLQ » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:15 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:17 pm
Addie wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:14 pm
New York Times
Trump Storms Out of White House Meeting with Democrats on Shutdown
:snippity:
The Art Of The Deal - applied to governing :lol:
:yeah: It's just theater.

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Post by Maybenaut » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:17 pm

tek wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:03 pm
Wouldn't such a regulation be government over-reach?

I mean, this restricts legal action against a certain class of people.. could landlords etc then choose to not deal with that class of people?

IANAYL..
It's not a regulation. It's just a list of suggestions that people can do to help themselves stay above water.


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Post by Mikedunford » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:19 pm

tek wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:03 pm
Wouldn't such a regulation be government over-reach?

I mean, this restricts legal action against a certain class of people.. could landlords etc then choose to not deal with that class of people?

IANAYL..
The military version has been in place since WWII (and there were earlier ones dating back to the Civil War), so there's a fair amount of precedent.


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Post by Mikedunford » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:20 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:17 pm
tek wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:03 pm
Wouldn't such a regulation be government over-reach?

I mean, this restricts legal action against a certain class of people.. could landlords etc then choose to not deal with that class of people?

IANAYL..
It's not a regulation. It's just a list of suggestions that people can do to help themselves stay above water.
I think Tek was referring to Schatz's proposed legislation, which would extend SCRA-type benefits to civilian government workers & contractors during periods when they're not being paid due to a shutdown.


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Post by Maybenaut » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:29 pm

Mikedunford wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:20 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:17 pm
tek wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:03 pm
Wouldn't such a regulation be government over-reach?

I mean, this restricts legal action against a certain class of people.. could landlords etc then choose to not deal with that class of people?

IANAYL..
It's not a regulation. It's just a list of suggestions that people can do to help themselves stay above water.
I think Tek was referring to Schatz's proposed legislation, which would extend SCRA-type benefits to civilian government workers & contractors during periods when they're not being paid due to a shutdown.
:bag: :oops: Thanks for clearing that up.


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Post by p0rtia » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:37 pm

ZekeB wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:42 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:39 pm
Right, because they're just sitting around watching The View anyway, right?
The show with those five women who are always talking over one-another? Geez I can't change the channel fast enough. :dazed:
You don't listen to/watch sports tv/radio, do you. ;)


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