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Post by Addie » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:41 pm

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Feinstein, Colleagues Introduce Legislation to Halt Separation of Immigrant Families

Washington—Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and 31 of her colleagues have introduced legislation to keep immigrant families together by preventing the Department of Homeland Security from taking children from their parents at the border.

The Keep Families Together Act was developed in consultation with child welfare experts to ensure the federal government is acting in the best interest of children. The bill is supported by the American Academy of Pediatrics, Kids In Need of Defense (KIND), Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA), Children’s Law Center, Young Center for Immigrant Rights and the Women's Refugee Commission.

In addition to Senator Feinstein, the bill is cosponsored by 31 senators, including Senators Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), Ed Markey (D-Mass.), Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Tom Carper (D-Del.), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii), Elizabeth Warren (D-N.J.), Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Angus King (I-Maine), Catherine Cortez-Masto (D-Nev.), Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Bob Casey (D-Pa.), Mark Warner (D-Va.), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.) and Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.).

“The United States must not be a country that traumatizes young children by separating them from their parents. Young children have been taken from their parents’ arms and federal law enforcement hasn’t given parents even the most basic information about their children’s whereabouts,” Feinstein said. “Congress has a moral obligation to take a stand and say that families should not be forcibly separated. Many of these families are fleeing terrible violence, traveling thousands of miles on foot for the chance to file an asylum claim and save their lives. To traumatize them further is unconscionable, and I hope that our Republican colleagues will work with us to put an end to this immoral policy.”

“Let me be clear: there is no law requiring this Administration to separate children from their parents—Attorney General Sessions and Secretary Nielsen are choosing to tear families apart to intimidate those who are lawfully seeking asylum in our country. It’s extreme, heartbreaking, un-American, and has to stop,” said Durbin.

“Separating children from their parents is both cruel and immoral,” said Bennet. “These families are fleeing violence and instability and leaving their homes in search of safety and security. The administration’s inhumane separation policy exacerbates the trauma these children and their parents face. It also does nothing to make us safer and violates what we stand for as a country. Congress must take a stand and end this policy immediately.”

“These children are being ripped from the arms of their parents for one reason: to terrorize them,” said Blumenthal. “This policy is deeply cruel and fundamentally antithetical to our values, as Americans and as decent human beings. Congress cannot stand idly by – we must stand up against this senseless, punishing policy.”

“Matthew 25 calls to care for the least among us, including welcoming strangers in our land. This administration, however, is callously choosing to enforce a policy that not only targets vulnerable migrants who are fleeing unspeakable violence in their home countries, but also inflicts further trauma by separating children from their parents,” said Carper. “This is a completely unacceptable policy in any nation, let alone one that has, for centuries, led the world by example. It is unprecedented, it is cruel, it is entirely unnecessary and it must stop. The legislation I have introduced with my House and Senate colleagues would keep families from being needlessly ripped apart, which is, without a question, the right and humane thing to do.”

“This administration’s policy of separating children and parents at the border speaks of their inhumanity and does not reflect our values as a nation,” said Cortez Masto. “Most of these families are fleeing extreme violence and come here because their lives are threatened. I urge my colleagues to act now and support this legislation. Congress cannot stand idly by while an overwhelming number of children stay in crowded detention facilities and their parents are left in the dark as to their whereabouts and wellbeing.”

“Ripping children from the arms of their parents is not border security,” said Harris. “Our government should keep families together not tear them apart. This policy can result in lasting trauma for those children and their parents. We can keep America safe without being callous.”

“My mom brought my brother and me to this country when I was only seven years old. All of our possessions were packed into a single suitcase and we shared a single room. But at least we had each other,” Hirono said. “The Trump administration’s new policy of separating immigrant children from their families is reprehensible and unconscionable. This bill stops ICE from taking this unnecessary and cruel action.”

“The Trump Administration’s policies trample on American values by tearing families apart and demonizing people seeking refuge,” Kaine said. “This bill is an effort to protect kids from unnecessary harm by keeping families together and putting in place safeguards for children who have been separated from their parents.”

“America cannot just live by its national values when convenient – it has to be a full-time commitment,” said King. “The DHS policy that purposely separates children from their parents falls far short of our principles, and it should be stopped immediately.”

“There is simply no way sanitize the cruelty of the Trump Administration’s policy of forcibly separating families at the border,” said Leahy. “The anguish we are inflicting is evident in the story of each parent who is losing a child — parents who often are fleeing indescribable violence in their home counties. Americans must stand together in condemning family separation, and I am proud to support this legislation to put a stop to it.”

“We are not going to stand by as the Trump Administration continues to find ways to forcibly separate immigrant families from seeking refuge in our country – pulling a child from a mother seeking asylum in our country is wrong,” said Menendez. “We have a responsibility to ensure children and families are able to apply for asylum, trafficking protection and other specialized forms of relief without the paralyzing fear of being separated and shipped off to different facilities across the country. Only in the Trump era would forcibly tearing children away from their parents be considered an acceptable policy to uphold our values as a nation of immigrants. This is shameful, un-American and must stop.”

“This administration is choosing to use the suffering of children and families as political leverage. Let’s not go any further,” said Schatz. “Every single member of Congress should be on this bill, because every single member should be against separating children from their parents. It is inhumane, immoral, and un-American.”

“Separating children from their parents at the border, many of them coming here desperate to escape the terrible violence in their countries, is a policy that is directly at odds with the fundamental values of this nation,” said Warner. “This unprecedented and inhumane practice has been condemned by the U.N., is not rooted in any law, and could end today should President Trump choose to do so. Instead, the president has used this new policy to terrorize innocent families as a means of deterring those who are legally seeking asylum in our country. In the absence of moral leadership from the White House, Congress should make it clear that the United States of America will continue to stand proud as a country welcoming of those seeking refuge from violence, poverty, and prejudice.

“Because of President Trump’s cruel immigration agenda, children are being torn out of the arms of their mothers,” said Warren. “Many of these families are fleeing persecution and violence, and seeking refuge in our borders. Ripping families apart is immoral and un-American. I’m glad to work with Senator Feinstein to put a stop to this dangerous Administration policy.”

“The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) urges an immediate end to the policy that separates children from their parents at the border. Separating children from their parents contradicts everything we stand for as pediatricians – protecting and promoting children’s health. We know that highly-stressful experiences, like family separation, can cause irreparable harm to children’s health, disrupting their brain architecture and affecting short- and long-term health. The Keep Families Together Act takes important steps forward to protect families, and the AAP thanks Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for her leadership on this issue,” said American Academy of Pediatrics President Colleen Kraft MD, MBA, FAAP.

On May 7, 2018, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that all adults who arrive at the border would be prosecuted for illegal entry, even if they attempt to seek asylum. This policy, which has never before been pursued, has resulted in parents being separated from their children.

Prosecuting individuals who are seeking asylum may also violate the United States’ obligations under international law, including the U.N. convention on refugees and its Protocol.

At a May 24, 2018, Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Customs and Border Protection informed Senator Feinstein that 658 children were taken from 638 parents during a 14-day period in May, an average of 47 children being taken from their parents each day.

To ensure the bill protects the welfare of children, it allows children to be separated from their parents only in the event they are being trafficked or abused by their parents. To provide an additional layer of protection, the bill provides for an immediate review by a superior upon the recommendation to separate, and only after consultation with a child welfare expert.
Declarations from court filings from immigrant parents separated from their children follow:

Statement by Mirian, part of a class-action lawsuit:

“My name is Mirian. I am a citizen and national of Honduras and my birth date is December 17, 1988. U.S. border officials separated me from my 18-month-old son when we arrived at the border on February 20, 2018. I brought my son to the United States so we could seek protection from government violence in Honduras.

“I had no idea that I would be separated from my child for seeking help. I have not seen my baby for more than a month. I’m so excited to be reunited with him.

“The immigration officers made me walk out with my son to a government vehicle and place my son in a car seat in the vehicle. My son was crying as I put him in the seat. I did not even have a chance to try to comfort my son, because the officers slammed the door shut as soon as he was in his seat. I was crying, too. I cry even now when I think about that moment when the border officers took my son away.

“While at the Port Isabel Detention Center I was wondering what had happened with my son. I was very worried about him and did not know where he was.”

Statement by Mrs. C, part of a class-action lawsuit:

“I am a citizen of Brazil and am seeking asylum in the United States. When I came to the United States, I passed my initial asylum interview (“credible fear interview”), and am now in immigration proceedings before an immigration judge to seek asylum.

“Although I was seeking asylum, I was convicted of the misdemeanor of entering the country illegally. When a border guard approached me a few feet after I entered the country, I explained I was seeking asylum. I was still prosecuted. I spent 25 days in jail for the misdemeanor.

“My biological son, J., is 14 and came with me from Brazil. He is also seeking asylum. When I was sent to jail for my conviction, my son was taken from me and sent to a facility in Chicago.

“I have now been out of jail and have been in immigration detention since September 22, 2017. I am desperate to be reunited with my son.

“I worry about J. constantly and don’t know when I will see him. We have talked on the phone only a five or six times since he was taken away from me.

“J. is having a very hard time detained all by himself without me. He is only a 14-year -old boy in a strange country and needs his parent.”

Statement by J.I.L, part of a class-action lawsuit:

“I am a citizen of El Salvador and am seeking asylum in the United States. I arrived at the Texas/Mexico border with my two biological sons on March 13, 2018, seeking protection from violence in El Salvador. My son J.S.P.L. was born on August 3, 2007 and is ten years old. My son D.A.P.L. was born on March 30, 2014 and is four years old.

“My sons and I were apprehended with three other women near Roma, Texas by border officials on the morning of March 13th, 2018. The officers put us in the back of their vehicle and drove us to the border station. Everyone referred to the station as an ‘icebox’ or ‘hielera.’

“That day, March 13, a woman came to pick up my kids. I was given only five minutes to say goodbye before J.S.P.L. and D.A.P.L. were torn from me. My babies started crying when they found out we were going to be separated. It breaks my heart to remember my youngest wail, ‘Why do I have to leave? Mami, I want to stay with you!’

“My youngest cried and screamed in protest because he did not want to leave my side. My oldest son was also confused and did not understand what was happening. In tears myself, I asked my boys to be brave, and I promised we would be together again soon. I begged the woman who took my children to keep them together so they could at least have each other. She promised she would, and she left with my boys. I was transferred to the Laredo Detention Center. I have been in this detention center since then and am heartbroken.

“I do not know where my sons are, and I am very worried about them. I called the Office of Refugee Resettlement to learn about my children, but the office only told me that the boys are in a shelter in San Antonio.

“The separation from my sons has been incredibly hard, because I have never been away from them before. I do not want my children to think that I abandoned them. J.S.P.L. and D.A.P.L. are so attached to me. D.A.P.L. used to sleep in bed with me every night while J.S.P.L. slept in his own bed in the same room.

“Back in El Salvador, my kids became nervous every time I was out of their sight. They would calm down as soon as they saw me, and I assured them that I would not leave them. It hurts me to think how anxious and distressed they must be without me.”
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Post by Kendra » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:22 pm


UPDATE: 43 senators now support our bill to bar children from being taken from their parents at the border. We still need a Republican senator to join. If you’re represented by a Republican senator, please ask them to cosponsor S.3036. #FamiliesBelongTogether
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Post by stoppingby » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:41 pm

I emailed my republican senator because I couldn't find a phone number to call him. It won't do any good, because he's a Trumpster, but at least I will have eased my conscience.

A portion of the form asks for "issue category" and offered a drop down list of options. I chose immigration, because "basic human decency," "don't be a f---king nazi" and "seriously?!? SERIOUSLY?!?!" were not options.

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Post by Kendra » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:47 pm

I can't find the original thread for this topic, but is anyone surprised Miller has his fould hands in this?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/16/us/p ... trump.html

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But advocates inside the administration, most prominently Stephen Miller, Mr. Trump’s senior policy adviser, never gave up on the idea. Last month, facing a sharp uptick in illegal border crossings, Mr. Trump ordered a new effort to criminally prosecute anyone who crossed the border unlawfully — with few exceptions for parents traveling with their minor children.

And now Mr. Trump faces the consequences. With thousands of children detained in makeshift shelters, his spokesmen this past week had to deny accusations that the administration was acting like Nazis. Even evangelical supporters like Franklin Graham said its policy was “disgraceful.
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Post by Addie » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:34 pm

Nadler.house.gov - Press Release
Nadler Introduces Keep Families Together Act to End Family Separation at the Border

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Today, House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) led more than 190 House Democrats in introducing the Keep Families Together Act, H.R. 6135, legislation to end family separation at the U.S. border. In addition to Rep. Nadler, original House cosponsors of the legislation include: Subcommittee on Immigration Ranking Member Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), Rep. Ted W. Lieu (D-CA), Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), Rep. Jimmy Panetta (D-CA) and House Democratic leadership. Ranking Member Nadler’s legislation is the House companion to the legislation introduced by Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Diane Feinstein (D-CA) earlier this month.
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HuffPo
Congress Getting Nowhere Fast On Legislation To Keep Immigrant Families Together ...

Texas GOP Sens. Ted Cruz and John Cornyn are working on separate legislation that would end family separations, detain children together with their parents as they await immigration hearings, and speed up the processing of asylum claims on the border. Cruz said he hoped to unveil the bill later Tuesday.

But Trump appeared to complicate matters further on Tuesday by throwing cold water on the prospect of hiring more immigration judges to help speed up asylum claims, which the Cruz bill aims to do, even as he complained about the lengthy period of time that asylum cases take to adjudicate.

“I don’t want judges,” Trump said at an event hosted by the National Federation of Independent Business. “I want border security. I don’t want to try people. I don’t want people coming in.”

Just 11 Senate Republicans, meanwhile, signed on to a letter drafted by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) calling on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to halt family separation out of “human decency” as Congress works on a solution.

“The administration can fix this in one minute if they choose,” Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), one of the signatories to the letter, told reporters on Tuesday.
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Post by Addie » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:57 pm

Roll Call
Trump Will Sign Executive Action Ending Family Separation

Updated 12:34 p.m. | President Donald Trump says he will sign an executive action ending the practice of separating migrant children from their parents amid a firestorm that saw congressional Republicans break with him.

The president and White House have been under intense pressure, including from Republican members, to end the separation practice that stems from the administration’s policy to attempt to prosecute every adult nabbed trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border illegally.

“We’re going to be signing an executive order in a little while,” he said in the Cabinet Room during an unrelated meeting with lawmakers. “We’ve got to be keeping families together.”

Trump was vague about just what he intends to sign on migrant separation, describing it as “somewhat preemptive, but ultimately matched by legislation, I’m sure.”
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Post by Suranis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:58 pm

In other words "I'm going to sign something that does fuck all to make people shut up. Trolls get ready to go maximum level white knighting this shit"
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Post by Slim Cognito » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:02 pm

I'm still holding my breath but I am relieved to see somebody has convinced him he has to stop this. The spin will be...interesting. Even more so, the past couple of weeks on Twitter, I have argued with people who simultaneously held the view that Trump was keeping those kids safe from their sex trafficking parents AND it was all Obama's fault they're being separated. I wonder how they're reacting to the news. :dazed:
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:13 pm

Addie wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:06 pm
HuffPo
Congress Getting Nowhere Fast On Legislation To Keep Immigrant Families Together ...

Texas GOP Sens. Ted Cruz and John Cornyn are working on separate legislation that would end family separations, detain children together with their parents as they await immigration hearings, and speed up the processing of asylum claims on the border. Cruz said he hoped to unveil the bill later Tuesday.

But Trump appeared to complicate matters further on Tuesday by throwing cold water on the prospect of hiring more immigration judges to help speed up asylum claims, which the Cruz bill aims to do, even as he complained about the lengthy period of time that asylum cases take to adjudicate.

“I don’t want judges,” Trump said at an event hosted by the National Federation of Independent Business. “I want border security. I don’t want to try people. I don’t want people coming in.”

Just 11 Senate Republicans, meanwhile, signed on to a letter drafted by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) calling on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to halt family separation out of “human decency” as Congress works on a solution.

“The administration can fix this in one minute if they choose,” Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), one of the signatories to the letter, told reporters on Tuesday.
Arkansas Senator John Boozman actually found some courage and signed this. I was
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:15 pm

Addie wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:57 pm
Roll Call
Trump Will Sign Executive Action Ending Family Separation

Updated 12:34 p.m. | President Donald Trump says he will sign an executive action ending the practice of separating migrant children from their parents amid a firestorm that saw congressional Republicans break with him.

The president and White House have been under intense pressure, including from Republican members, to end the separation practice that stems from the administration’s policy to attempt to prosecute every adult nabbed trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border illegally.

“We’re going to be signing an executive order in a little while,” he said in the Cabinet Room during an unrelated meeting with lawmakers. “We’ve got to be keeping families together.”

Trump was vague about just what he intends to sign on migrant separation, describing it as “somewhat preemptive, but ultimately matched by legislation, I’m sure.”
That order should include firing Stephen Miller (I hope).
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Post by bob » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:37 pm

USA Today: President Trump signs executive order on immigration, but says 'zero tolerance' will continue:
President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order on immigration that he said ends family separations at the border, but insisted his controversial "zero tolerance" policy will continue.

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The scope of the order was not immediately clear, including if it would address how the already-separated children would be reunified with their parents.. It is being developed is primarily aimed at keeping families of future detainees together, and it's intended as an interim measure until Congress acts.
I haven't seen the text of the executive order, so I have no idea what this means: families are being separated because of of the "zero-tolerance" (i.e., send all unauthorized entry cases to the criminal-justice system) policies enacted by the administration.

Oh:
Vice President Mike Pence and Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen stood by his side when he signed the order.
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Post by TexasFilly » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:43 pm

So what happens now?

* What happens to the 2000 children who have been separated from their parents? Apparently ICE and HHS don't/can't communicate. Of course, setting up an office with folks with an ICE database on one computer and HHS on another is too logical;

* So Clump is still demanding "zero tolerance." I guess that now means families will all be incarcerated together. But there's that pesky Flores settlement. So, now what?
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Post by Addie » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:43 pm

WaPo - Aaron Blake
Trump and Kirstjen Nielsen’s embarrassing surrender on separating families at the border

The Trump administration insisted it didn't have a policy of separating children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border. It said that it was merely following the law. And it said “Congress alone can fix” the mess. ...

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, who on Sunday and Monday insisted that this wasn't an actual policy and that the administration's hands are tied, will now have to untie them as the White House will reverse the supposedly nonexistent policy. Amid an outcry from Senate Republicans and an emerging promise to fix the problem themselves — just as the White House had demanded — the Trump administration has drafted an executive action to change the policy and keep families united.

It's at once an admission that the politics of the issue had gotten out of hand and that the administration's arguments were completely dishonest. Virtually everything it said about the policy is tossed aside with this executive action. It's the political equivalent of waving the white flag and the legal equivalent of confessing to making false statements. Rather than letting Congress rebuke it, the White House is rebuking itself and trying to save some face. ...

This is such a course reversal that, just two days ago, the White House was saying it wasn't even onboard with Congress passing a stand-alone bill to fix the problem — dismissing such efforts as a “Band-Aid” that didn't deal with core immigration problems. Today, it is gladly applying the “Band-Aid” itself — and in a way it insisted it couldn't.

Rarely has the White House so tacitly and unmistakably admitted to overplaying its hand. And rarely has it so blatantly copped to its own dishonesty about its actions. Nielsen, in particular, has a lot of explaining to do. But this whole thing is an extremely ugly chapter. And it makes clear that, from Day One, this was a political gambit to force an immigration bill through. It didn't work.
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Post by TexasFilly » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:49 pm

Nielsen is so craven that she put up with 30 minutes of Trump ranting at her at a cabinet meeting in order to keep her shitty job. Then she willing became the public face of this horrendous policy, to keep her job. What's the endgame she was contemplating? Becoming such a great DHS leader that private industry would clamor to hire her? Nutz.
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Post by June bug » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:52 pm

Per your previous post, Filly, it will indeed be detention together until the parents are prosecuted. The Trump admin will fight Flores and wants Congress' legislation to do likewise; who knows how the ensuing court battles will end?

What will happen after parental conviction of a misdemeanor? (Though Arpaio's latest is that Congress should make illegal entry a felony.)

Parents deported/jailed? Children deported with them or separated then? Will the youngest, most Aryan attractive looking ones be adopted perhaps by god-fearing white Xtians?

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:33 pm

TexasFilly wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:43 pm
So what happens now?

* What happens to the 2000 children who have been separated from their parents? Apparently ICE and HHS don't/can't communicate. Of course, setting up an office with folks with an ICE database on one computer and HHS on another is too logical;

* So Clump is still demanding "zero tolerance." I guess that now means families will all be incarcerated together. But there's that pesky Flores settlement. So, now what?
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Mark Meadows and Paul Ryan are having quite the disagreement right now.

Both are pointing at each other.

We could hear Meadows say “I’ll sign the damn discharge petition I don’t care anymore” from the gallery.

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Post by Volkonski » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:24 pm

Meadows gets heated with Ryan on House floor

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Meadows later told reporters that he wasn't serious about signing the petition, but he did acknowledge his frustrations with GOP leaders.

The Freedom Caucus leader is furious with Ryan because he claims two provisions were left out of a compromise immigration bill that all sides had agreed to include during the negotiations, though Meadows declined to say what those provisions are.

"There were things that were supposed to be in the compromise bill that we had all agreed to," Meadows told reporters. "I finished reading it today. And I was told there were two things in there that are not in there."

Meadows said the compromise bill is not ready for "prime time," adding that he's working to "get some changes" before Thursday's vote.
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Post by Dolly » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:32 pm

ETA: June bug was nice and quoted this post in the "The Splitting up of Families". That is probably where I should have posted but :blackeye: Sorry. http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p1000321

This article was --Updated 9:28 p.m.
See this post in the other thread. http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopi ... 5#p1000406


No special effort planned to reunite migrant families already separated: report

There will be no special effort from the Trump administration to reunite migrant families separated at the border, according to a report from The New York Times, despite President Trump signing an executive order halting the practice.

The Times cites a Health and Human Services (HHS) Department official as saying that the children will not immediately be reunited with their families while their parents are detained throughout their immigration proceedings.

“There will not be a grandfathering of existing cases,” Kenneth Wolfe, spokesman for the Administration for Children and Families, part of HHS, told The Times.
The Hill has reached out to HHS for further comment.

Wolfe said that the decision about the children would be ultimately be handled by the White House, but said “I can tell you definitively that is going to be policy.”
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Justice Department officials told The Times that they did not know whether the policy would resume in 20 days if a federal judge does not give the government power to keep families together a longer period of time.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... -separated

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Re: Keep Families Together Act 2018

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Post by Dolly » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:36 pm

Top DOJ official: Government can only detain families together for up to 20 days

Senior Justice Department official Gene Hamilton confirmed on Wednesday that the government can only detain families together for “up to 20 days" after President Trump signed an executive order ending the separation of parents from their children at the border.

Hamilton said that the Flores settlement — a 1997 consent decree that prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention for more than 20 days — will stay in place unless Congress or the courts take action, CBS News’ Steven Portnoy reported.

The Department of Justice is also asking a Federal District Court in California to extend the amount of time that the government can detain families for as long as their legal proceedings last.

The announcement came shortly after Trump signed the order to end the practice of separating migrant children from their parents when caught crossing the border illegally.

It calls on the Department of Homeland Security to detain families together as they away trial.

The order also calls on the Justice Department to expedite immigration cases that involve families and calls on the Pentagon to provide space to house the families. <SNIP>
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... her-for-up

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Re: Keep Families Together Act 2018

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Post by June bug » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:02 pm

Dolly wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:36 pm
Top DOJ official: Government can only detain families together for up to 20 days

Senior Justice Department official Gene Hamilton confirmed on Wednesday that the government can only detain families together for “up to 20 days" after President Trump signed an executive order ending the separation of parents from their children at the border.

Hamilton said that the Flores settlement — a 1997 consent decree that prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention for more than 20 days — will stay in place unless Congress or the courts take action, CBS News’ Steven Portnoy reported.

The Department of Justice is also asking a Federal District Court in California to extend the amount of time that the government can detain families for as long as their legal proceedings last.

The announcement came shortly after Trump signed the order to end the practice of separating migrant children from their parents when caught crossing the border illegally.

It calls on the Department of Homeland Security to detain families together as they away trial.

The order also calls on the Justice Department to expedite immigration cases that involve families and calls on the Pentagon to provide space to house the families. <SNIP>
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... her-for-up

BY LUIS SANCHEZ - 06/20/18 05:49 PM EDT
So it turns out the whole Executive Order thing is just one more scam by the Liar in Chief.

:sarcasm: Color me surprised. :sarcasm:

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Post by bob » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:37 pm

That was my question as well: I infer the president still intends to refer all adults for criminal prosecution. (I also infer some children will not be prosecuted due to their young age, i.e., a five year old can't form a criminal intent). But those children, under Flores, are supposed to be held only for 20 days.

Then what?
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Post by June bug » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:46 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:37 pm
That was my question as well: I infer the president still intends to refer all adults for criminal prosecution. (I also infer some children will not be prosecuted due to their young age, i.e., a five year old can't form a criminal intent). But those children, under Flores, are supposed to be held only for 20 days.

Then what?
As I read the statement from Justice, if the court doesn't modify Flores and/or Congress doesn't enact legislation that modifies it in a constitutionally acceptable fashion, then in 20 days we're right back where we were before the EO.
Edit: And then he can say, "See? I told you I couldn't do anything about that mean old Democrat law!"

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Post by vic » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:07 am

I'm half expecting that they send the children to Guantanamo and claim it is out of the courts' jurisdiction.

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