Who Wrote The New York Times Op-Ed? 9/5/18

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Who wrote the NY Times Op-Ed?

Nikki Haley
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1%
Don McGahn
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Dan Coats
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16%
John Kelly
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13%
Mike Pompeo
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1%
Javanka
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2%
Mike Pence or Team Pence
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25%
Another Cabinet Member or Top Official
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Lower level Official (e.g. Deputy Assistant) / Other
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Donald
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Who Wrote The New York Times Op-Ed? 9/5/18

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Post by Orlylicious » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:34 pm

Who wrote the New York Times op-ed? Lawrence O'Donnell made a compelling case for Dan Coats... Nikki Haley wouldn't surprise me too much... or maybe it's Donald being a dork.

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration
I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
Sept. 5, 2018

The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

The result is a two-track presidency.

Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opin ... tance.html
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Post by MN-Skeptic » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:45 pm

I was thinking Pence might be the author, but this phrase - "and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure" - would not apply to Pence. Pence could be marginalized, but not fired.
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Post by AndyinPA » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:10 am

I also think McDonnell made a good case for Dan Coats tonight and I voted for him, but no one would surprise me. The White House is a nest of vipers these days.

I think there's more than a little cowardice on the part of the author of this op ed. There has been a constitutional crisis in the making since January 20, 2017. And I don't like the ending. He/they know what's going on in the White House. How are the American people going to stop this? And I think they are protecting the republican party more than the country. It's been party first with them for a long time.

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Post by Fortinbras » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:12 am

My money's on Melania.

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Post by Foggy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:47 am

I voted Kelly, not because I think it's him, but I want it to be him.

However, as I stated elsethread, I am good with the Failing New York Times turning Pence over to the government for national security reasons. If either of those things happen, I won't need a Christmas or birthday present this year. :dance:
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Post by HST's Ghost » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:25 am

Pence. Now that's some real 5-D Wutang shit...He will not only be revealed to be Q of Q-anon, but he will also come out as a gay democrat... :daydream:

Nah, I know it was Joe.

Joe who?

Joe Mama

Joe Mama is a distraction from the Kavanaugh shitshow?

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Post by Lani » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:49 am

I wonder if planning went into printing this op-ed after excerpts of Fury were reported and before the book is released. Also wondering if some publication is just waiting for the right moment to publish another major leak.

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Post by HST's Ghost » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:54 am

Damn, I didn't even realize the book hasn't been released yet! Oh me oh my, not a good week to be orange and have high blood pressure...I recommend fresh watermelon and garlic tablets...for the bp I mean...
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Post by tek » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:16 am

interesting non-comment over on Wonkette:
The op-ed doesn't matter. It definitely doesn't make its author a hero, despite what the author believes- but in a way that's just more confirmation of what we already knew, that Trump appeals to deluded mediocrities who want badly to be the heroes in their own legends.
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Post by ZekeB » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:24 am

MN-Skeptic wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:45 pm
I was thinking Pence might be the author, but this phrase - "and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure" - would not apply to Pence. Pence could be marginalized, but not fired.
Pence could be impeached, but Thump doesn't get to cast a vote. That would be an interesting scenario under a Republican congress. It would be more interesting if Pence and Thump were both impeached under a congress controlled by the Democrats.
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Post by RVInit » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:35 am

CNN just had a short piece showing how often Pence uses the word "lodestar". That is a pretty unique word, I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone use that word in conversation, and it's not often used in writing either.
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Post by p0rtia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:41 am

Various sources pointing out that it's a word the military boys use.

Or a clever bit of misdirection, since Pence has used the term now and then.
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Post by Fortinbras » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:42 am

Lodestar is also a lawyer word, popping up in calculations about damages.

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Post by Fortinbras » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:44 am

Could it be Sarah Huckabee Sanders ?

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Post by Sluffy1 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:49 am

I just read it aloud using a dumb southern accent... it's Sessions ...

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Post by optimusprime » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:54 am

I smell "shiny object" or squirrel distraction, and I would not put it past #45 to have 'commissioned' someone to add to the media's reporting away from his other dealings or scandals going on.

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Post by Foggy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:13 am

Yeah, I suppose that's possible, OP. There's really nothing in the op-ed that's new or worser than what we already know. It's just the deliciousness of the betrayal that makes it news.

But he tweeted the word TREASON for the first time last night. He was seriously pissed off about it. Reports that his mood was "volcanic". I don't think he's capable of faking volcanic.

But I have no sympathy for the rat fink.

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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:16 am

Sluffy1 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:49 am
I just read it aloud using a dumb southern accent... it's Sessions ...
What exactly is a "dumb" Southern accent?

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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:34 am

Regarding the use of "lodestar," I also considered the redirection angle. Since trump can't fire Pence, let him take the heat. Even if it wasn't the writer's intention, once trump decides to blame someone, he's not going to admit he's wrong, even if the author steps up to the plate. So I'll be more than happy if somebody puts that bug in his ear and he spends whatever time he has left in office making Pence as miserable as hell.
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Post by Sluffy1 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:34 am

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:16 am
Sluffy1 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:49 am
I just read it aloud using a dumb southern accent... it's Sessions ...
What exactly is a "dumb" Southern accent?
President Donald Trump reportedly poked fun at Attorney General Jeff Sessions's southern accent and described Sessions as a “dumb Southerner,” according to a new book by famed reporter and author Bob Woodward.

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Post by Sam the Centipede » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:35 am

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:16 am
Sluffy1 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:49 am
I just read it aloud using a dumb southern accent... it's Sessions ...
What exactly is a "dumb" Southern accent?
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:37 am

Apparently LaRump is working at blowing a gasket all the while frothing at the month. I find the piece at once amusing and very disturbing although probably not for the same reasons as others.

Thinking about that piece, I have a hard time ascribing to some of the people mentioned.
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Post by Bill_G » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:00 am

If the author is to believed, that there is a group actively righting the ship, then I suppose we own them some gratitude. However, it been suggested for decades that such a group has always existed, and that every administration is subject to it.

What isn't clear is if this group has a permanent presence hiding in plain sight, or if it is an institutional culture that promotes an ad hoc response. If it's the former, then what is their agenda? And if it is the latter, are there competing groups playing tug-a-war behind the curtains?

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Post by pipistrelle » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:01 am

It's a weird mix of weird wannabe patriotism and self-congratulatory gloating. I don't think it's Nikki's style. The bit that throws me off:
I would know. I am one of them.
Why not "I know."? Seems like odd phrasing. What's the condition in "would"?

Also:
To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left.
Admits the "resistance" is popular. Doesn't question why.
We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
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Post by pipistrelle » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:02 am

Omarosa says not Javanka. Says she hints at it in page 300 of her book.

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