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Dolly wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:46 pm
National Enquirer lawyer accused of threatening Bezos worked at Amazon for years
:snippity:

AMI denied wrongdoing in a statement on Friday and said it "believes fervently that it acted lawfully in the reporting of the story of Mr. Bezos."

According to Bloomberg News, federal prosecutors are currently reviewing the Enquirer's conduct after Bezos accused AMI of "extortion and blackmail.”
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4 ... amazon-for
Yeah - Mr. Bezos was not replying to the reporting on his affair, but was highlighting the threats by an AMI lawyer. Like highlighting that Bezos was wearing a marriage ring on his finger on several pictures. :violin:



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Jeff Bezos Can Sue the Pants Off the National Enquirer
A lawsuit could change the way we think about privacy in the digital age.
By JOHN CULHANE February 08, 2019
John Culhane is distinguished professor of law at Delaware Law School, where he teaches courses in constitutional and family law.
***
It mighty [sic] seem late in the day to be complaining about our collective loss of privacy, or to suggest that anything can be done to push back against it. The dominance of social media has so compromised our personal lives that it can be challenging — perhaps even a little strange — to think that there are still limits to what can be put out there without legal consequence. Past relationships that have ended badly are fodder for “revenge porn,” a horrid genre that mostly goes unchecked, and results in little accountability by authorities. Facebook has spread our information like a thick layer of vegemite, without anything that resembles true consent. And — let’s face it — we can find anyone we’re looking for in minutes.

But privacy is not quite dead. For egregious cases, there are remedies lying ready to hand in the civil law of torts, at least for the case that Bezos might want to bring against AMI. “Tort” comes from the French word for “wrong,” and constitutes a vast umbrella of protection, under state law, for those injured by the careless or intentionally bad actions of others. Most claims are for personal injury (auto accidents, medical malpractice, harms caused by defective products, and so on), but the law also protects against affronts to reputation and dignity.

More specifically, tort law recognizes that one’s privacy is valuable, so that those who interfere with it can be made to pay damages. (There’s also a possible separate claim for the intentional infliction of emotional distress, but it’s unlikely a court would favor it.) If Bezos were to sue and win—or gain a good settlement—the impact could go way beyond the National Enquirer. What follows might be nothing less than a renewed appreciation of our right to be left alone—with consequences for everything from stopping so-called “revenge pornographers” to deterring others who want to make other intimate details of our private lives public.

Bezos’ likely best shot at a privacy claim goes by the sing-songy label “intrusion upon seclusion.” The Restatement of Torts (sort of a “greatest hits” of the law, compiled by legal scholars who have examined various state law variations) offers this formulation: “One who intentionally intrudes, physically or otherwise, upon the solitude or seclusion of another or his private affairs or concerns, is subject to liability … for invasion of his privacy, if the intrusion would be highly offensive to a reasonable person.”
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... tos-224932

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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:26 am

Daily Beast: Private Eyes Detail Inner Workings of National Enquirer ‘Blackmail’ Machine

Threatening to reveal Jeff Bezos’ “dick p*ck” was just the latest strong-arm tactic. “The nice way of calling it was quid pro quo,” one veteran said, “but really it was blackmail.”
Bloomberg: Bezos Has Options If He Wants to ‘Gawker’ the National Enquirer
LA Times: Jeff Bezos' civic lesson in how to defuse fear in Trump times



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If the rumors are true, and I see no reason to believe otherwise, the NE has been doing this for years, much in the vein of the likes of Hedda Hopper and the old line Hollywood scandal/gossip/movie mags did for so many years, making or breaking a star/let by what they did or didn't print. Quite a little cottage industry living off the studios for a good many years until tastes and mores changed.


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Post by Kendra » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:50 am

Sigh. I wish the tv news reporters would decide what's the correct pronunciation of his last name and use it, and make sure their panelists know it. MSNBC I'm looking at you. :fingerwag:



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Post by MN-Skeptic » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:09 pm

I thought Juliette Kayyem had an interesting tweet. I'll just link to the first tweet, but copy the whole thread.


A few notes on Bezos' security apparatus. The guys I knew at FBI and Secret Service often ended up in VIP Protection, a lucrative post-government position where salaries can be in the high 6 digits. It's a serious job, especially to protect the richest of the rich. 1/

A few have reached out since Bezos memo with some interesting thoughts; all of them work in VIP world so won't go public but all are experts. First, all stated their governing philosophy: "our advice is if you never want to see it out there, then don't do it." Too late. 2/

Second, interestingly, before the memo, all of them believed it to be an insider job, likely the girlfriend's phone (there was some speculation on that). Someone got her phone and shared it. Not likely to be Bezos phone. "People like Bezos don't 'lose' their phones," one said 3/

explaining that there are mechanisms in place to erase and shut systems down immediately if the VIP's phone/computer/cyberfootprint go missing. And someone like Bezos has extensive cyber protections that would withstand most (but not all) hacking attempts. 4/

Third, some interesting takes after the letter. They all thought it was unusual and likely not a mistake for Bezos to name his security head. Names are often not given in their field. Bezos specifically states he "retained" Gavin de Becker, a serious professional. 5/

Bezos wanted the name out there and also the use of the word "retained" shows Bezos wanted it known that de Becker wasn't an 'inside' guy (always a fear after any breach) and would be willing to look at the possibility of insider hack since he was new. 6/

Fourth, reference to Saudi Arabia was "more than speculation," one said. "you just don't do that. de Becker wouldn't let him do that." Meaning that the Bezos security team has already done some cyber forensic analysis and knows it wasn't insider, and may have hints of who. 7/

This is why reps for Bezos also stated in interviews that they believe a government entity was involved, but didn't say US. In other words, under that theory, SA's sophisticated intell folks did the hack (either on own b/c of Khashoggi investigation or possibly asked to) and 8/

fed that information to AMI. Anyway, this is the take from a bunch of guys who are in this space now and who think and prepare for physical, personal and cyber security for some of the richest people on earth. 9/9


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Post by Addie » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:16 pm

The Guardian: Trump, 'blackmail' and a Pecker: Bezos delivers scandal with something for everyone

This convoluted tale – with lurid pics, private investigators and, naturally, Trump – seems to have captured the spirit of the age
Quartz: Why Jeff Bezos exposing David Pecker is bad news for Donald Trump
Business Insider: Here's the complete timeline of the feud between Jeff Bezos and the National Enquirer, including the ties to President Trump



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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:28 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:59 am
If the rumors are true, and I see no reason to believe otherwise, the NE has been doing this for years, much in the vein of the likes of Hedda Hopper and the old line Hollywood scandal/gossip/movie mags did for so many years, making or breaking a star/let by what they did or didn't print. Quite a little cottage industry living off the studios for a good many years until tastes and mores changed.
ND (and your posts, without fail, make me laugh and agree always, you're a treasure!), you're right.

I was right in the middle of this beginning in the mid to late 80s in NYC. This is exactly the MO of AMI. I've never written about what AMI did before, but I worked with over 100 media companies and dozens of stars and we all got used to this, it was just the cost of doing business.

Quick example: I worked for one of the top 5 pop stars in the world. This is around 2000. AMI would pay off hotel staff, airline workers, baggage handlers (who would open luggage on the tarmac and take pics!), taxi drivers, security personnel (it was early, but there was security camera footage that could be juicy), limo drivers (and operators) etc, to get dirt. Didn't matter what it was.

So then they'd come to her manager/attorney (usually lower level, there were a few lawyers in the firm that specialized in this, the final deal was signed off at the top) and they'd give the artist a choice: either a) give us a dirtier story than what we have on you (people represent multiple stars, so if I give you a Lindsay Lohan story you'll kill the bad story about my artist), or b) you back off from something (suing AMI, badmouthing them, whatever), or c) give them an exclusive on a story (wedding, divorce, illness, rehab) to substitute. In my experience, they never asked for money, it was always another story or silence or cooperation.

That's why all that press about Pecker's cooperation and the "vault" is for real. There must be thousands of catch-and-kill stories, and probably a hundred about Donald, he knew to get in good with Pecker.

In my experience, our teams hated it but didn't think of it as illegal because they had the story about our artist. For example, a "single" pop star like Justin Timberlake (using his name just for example) having sex. Fans like their stars single, so if we had some dirt on a Backstreet Boy we'd trade. They were doing the same thing. Mostly, we'd give the other artist's team a heads-up what we were telling AMI. That's how tabloids have always been. I guess since I've been around it so long and dealt with these matters (tho putting it in writing is highly unusual) it doesn't surprise me at all. TMZ is on the same track, but AMI was always the main culprit (though they didn't own Star and US Weekly at that time, they were also trash).

On the other hand, the US tabloids, overall, were nowhere as bad as the UK, they were killers. The German tabloid media was great, they just took every detail and fawned over it so we gave them lots of exclusives. Then others would pick up the happy coverage. Thank you Germans.

Anyway, just for those not in this industry, hope this provides a glimpse into what's under the rock Bezos described "let's roll this log over and see what crawls out". Really, what needs to happen is a Sleeping Giants or MMFA campaign to deplatform AMI, meaning getting grocers to stop putting AMI publications at the checkout counter. Haven't had time to discuss that with SG yet but it's an easy campaign; if Walmart takes them out their bankruptcy clock starts ticking. Hollywood might take a day off when that happens to party :P


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MN-Skeptic wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:09 pm
I thought Juliette Kayyem had an interesting tweet. I'll just link to the first tweet, but copy the whole thread.

https:// twitter.com/juliettekayyem/status/1094272500320612352
:snippity:

Fourth, reference to Saudi Arabia was "more than speculation," one said. "you just don't do that. de Becker wouldn't let him do that." Meaning that the Bezos security team has already done some cyber forensic analysis and knows it wasn't insider, and may have hints of who. 7/

This is why reps for Bezos also stated in interviews that they believe a government entity was involved, but didn't say US. In other words, under that theory, SA's sophisticated intell folks did the hack (either on own b/c of Khashoggi investigation or possibly asked to) and 8/

fed that information to AMI. Anyway, this is the take from a bunch of guys who are in this space now and who think and prepare for physical, personal and cyber security for some of the richest people on earth. 9/9
Reading this I was thinking about this article I posted in the Spy Games thread http://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... s#p1066179

A (US) security company working for Arab nations (UAE in the article) and employing ex-NSA staffers to hack phones. Thinking back to the turmoil of dotus between the Middle East Arab countries with dotus making his fingers dirty. How that one of these countries thinks they have a debt to pay and hack into phones of Bezos and his circle, then have it forwarded to NE. Dotus would be pleased to see Bezos in difficulties. I wonder if the name of Jared Kushner may turn up at some point...



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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:14 pm

Kendra wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:35 pm


:lol:
I think I would have went for:

PECKER GOES LIMP

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Give them time. This story has legs...



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Post by tek » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:23 pm

Orlylicious wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:14 pm
I think I would have went for:

PECKER GOES LIMP
I'm thinking they are saving this for when this gets to court ;)


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no "Jeff exposes his Bezo" relating to the pics?



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A few notes on Bezos' security apparatus. The guys I knew at FBI and Secret Service often ended up in VIP Protection, a lucrative post-government position where salaries can be in the high 6 digits. It's a serious job, especially to protect the richest of the rich. 1/

A few have reached out since Bezos memo with some interesting thoughts; all of them work in VIP world so won't go public but all are experts. First, all stated their governing philosophy: "our advice is if you never want to see it out there, then don't do it." Too late. 2/

Second, interestingly, before the memo, all of them believed it to be an insider job, likely the girlfriend's phone (there was some speculation on that). Someone got her phone and shared it. Not likely to be Bezos phone. "People like Bezos don't 'lose' their phones," one said 3/

explaining that there are mechanisms in place to erase and shut systems down immediately if the VIP's phone/computer/cyberfootprint go missing. And someone like Bezos has extensive cyber protections that would withstand most (but not all) hacking attempts. 4/

Third, some interesting takes after the letter. They all thought it was unusual and likely not a mistake for Bezos to name his security head. Names are often not given in their field. Bezos specifically states he "retained" Gavin de Becker, a serious professional. 5/

Bezos wanted the name out there and also the use of the word "retained" shows Bezos wanted it known that de Becker wasn't an 'inside' guy (always a fear after any breach) and would be willing to look at the possibility of insider hack since he was new. 6/

Fourth, reference to Saudi Arabia was "more than speculation," one said. "you just don't do that. de Becker wouldn't let him do that." Meaning that the Bezos security team has already done some cyber forensic analysis and knows it wasn't insider, and may have hints of who. 7/

This is why reps for Bezos also stated in interviews that they believe a government entity was involved, but didn't say US. In other words, under that theory, SA's sophisticated intell folks did the hack (either on own b/c of Khashoggi investigation or possibly asked to) and 8/

fed that information to AMI.
Anyway, this is the take from a bunch of guys who are in this space now and who think and prepare for physical, personal and cyber security for some of the richest people on earth. 9/9
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Orlylicious wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:14 pm
Kendra wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:35 pm


:lol:
I think I would have went for:

PECKER GOES LIMP

:P
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"Good faith negotiations." I guess you can relabel anything if you want, but blackmail is blackmail.


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:yeah:


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Post by MsDaisy » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:16 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:33 am
Orlylicious wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:14 pm
Kendra wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:35 pm


:lol:
I think I would have went for:

PECKER GOES LIMP

:P
:rotflmao:
:rotflmao:

I like "Bezos goes full Pecker Wrecker" :lol:


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SNL's cold open was one long Pecker joke (see what I did there?):


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OMG, I almost choked to death!!!! :rotflmao: Is this another case of something Bezos has more of than LaRump???? :rotflmao:


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Philadelphia Inquirer - Will Bunch
Bezos, the National Enquirer, the Saudis, Trump, and the blackmailing of U.S. democracy ...

And what if I told you something else: That the Bezos scandal is ripping away the curtain on a secret world that’s been hiding in plain sight: That a nation founded in the ideals of democracy has been increasingly fallen prey to a new dystopian regime that melds the new 21st century dark arts of illegal hacking and media manipulation with the oldest tricks in the book: blackmail and extortion.

Pull up a chair. ...

Ironically, the Bezos-AMI affair sucked all the oxygen out of another big scoop published at almost exactly the same time. The New York Times reported American intelligence had learned that the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia, Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salman (commonly referred to as “MBS”) had railed to an associate against the Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi, who’d moved to the United States and was writing anti-MBS op-ed columns for the Washington Post. MBS allegedly said he’d personally put “a bullet” into Khashoggi. ...

What the public didn’t know in the early months of Trump’s presidency was that Donald Trump Jr. had secretly met in Trump Tower in early August 2016 with a longtime emissary for the Saudis and its closest ally, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), George Nader, and two figures from the world of intelligence: Erik Prince, founder of the notorious firm known as Blackwater, and an ex-Israeli intelligence agent named Joel Zamel.

Nader, according to the New York Times, said the Saudis and the UAE wanted to help Trump win the election. Zamel proposed a covert social media campaign. Trump Jr. swears that nothing came of the meeting -- even though a sleazy social-media campaign exactly like the one Zamel proposed helped Trump narrowly win the Electoral College. When Trump became president, he could have gone anywhere for his first international trip: He went to Saudi Arabia. When the Saudis and UAE split with Qatar -- a key ally where American troops are stationed -- Trump baffled his own administration by trash-talking Qatar.

In July 2017, the president invited his good friend David Pecker to the White House and -- after chatting with Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, who was developing close ties with MBS -- the two men had dinner with Kacy Grine, a French businessman who’s a longtime adviser to MBS. Two months later, Pecker went to Saudi Arabia and met personally with MBS and Grine and pitched business opportunities.
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Orlylicious wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:28 pm

I was right in the middle of this beginning in the mid to late 80s in NYC. This is exactly the MO of AMI. I've never written about what AMI did before, but I worked with over 100 media companies and dozens of stars and we all got used to this, it was just the cost of doing business.

Quick example: I worked for one of the top 5 pop stars in the world. This is around 2000. AMI would pay off hotel staff, airline workers, baggage handlers (who would open luggage on the tarmac and take pics!), taxi drivers, security personnel (it was early, but there was security camera footage that could be juicy), limo drivers (and operators) etc, to get dirt. Didn't matter what it was.
:snippity:
This. This is why Orlylicious and I are so fascinated by the tabloid culture. It's a lot dirtier and way more outrageous than most people can even imagine. Makes for interesting reading - especially, once you know that - between the lines.

And that's why I became interested in Avenatti once he was accused of domestic assault. Once I saw that TMZ broke the story, I wanted to know who set it up. Not necessarily suggesting that the assault and/or the allegation was set up, but at the very least, who got the news to TMZ, why TMZ broke it without sufficient diligence first, and what their reaction was after ending up with egg on their faces.

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Post by Sam the Centipede » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:43 pm

The big thing that Jeff Bezos did correctly was getting the bad news out early and on his own terms. Yeah, he took a dick pic, but does or will anybody really care about that? Not really, and I doubt that many people wish to see the photos, whereas plenty will be interested in the legal battle that will (we hope!) ensue. If he'd been pigfucking à la David Cameron it might have been different, but a lousy dick pic? ... like, mega-yawn!

Of course, dick pic selfies are a simple victimless action (assuming that the intended recipient(s) was not offended). It requires more nerve to "own the narrative" on other regrettable deeds (shoplifting, blackface, domestic or other violence, etc.) but it's still probably a better course of action than giving in to blackmailers and let them have mark's gonads in a vise for ever after.



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Post by ZekeB » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:48 pm

That sleezebag rag of a so-called newspaper engages in blackmail? Who'd a thunk it? I hope this little episode destroys the Enquirer and all the other gossip magazines.


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