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"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07 ... latestnews








"Johnson faulted Griesbach for dismissing the lawsuit on "the legal technicality of standing" and not fully considering his arguments.





Where have I heard that line before?

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Appeals court throws out IRS rule on Obamacare subsidies





(Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Tuesday threw out a federal regulation that implements key subsidies that are vital to President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul.





The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit accepted one of the main legal challenges to the policy by conservatives opposed to an expansion of the federal government.





A three-judge panel returned the case to a lower court with instructions to rule in favor of appellants who had sued to overturn the rule.





The ruling has the potential to cripple the implementation of the law by making health insurance unaffordable for many people.If the Obama administration appeals, the case could yet end up before the U.S. Supreme Court.[/break1]reuters.com/article/2014/07/22/us-usa-court-obamacare-idUSKBN0FR1JI20140722]http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/ ... JI20140722





[link]Opinion,http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/o ... 503850.pdf[/link]
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An en banc petition for rehearing is next. Good thing those 3 recent Obama appointees were confirmed.

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Reuters Top News retweeted13mReutersUS's avatarReuters U.S. News @ReutersUSAppeals court ruling on Obamacare subsidies has no practical impact on people getting tax credits now: White HouseThe Associated Press @APBREAKING: Obama administration says health care subsidies will keep flowing despite court decision.

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An en banc petition for rehearing is next. Good thing those 3 recent Obama appointees were confirmed.Here's hoping. {SMILIES_PATH}/pray.gif
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[/break1]foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/21/judge-tosses-senator-obamacare-lawsuit/?intcmp=latestnews]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07 ... latestnews





"Johnson faulted Griesbach for dismissing the lawsuit on "the legal technicality of standing" and not fully considering his arguments.





Where have I heard that line before?Fixed above link





This sounds familiar as well.In a statement, Johnson said he would review the decision before deciding whether to appeal.





"Americans increasingly — and correctly — believe that their government in Washington is out of control, out of touch and lawless. By its decision today, the court has chosen not to address the important constitutional issues at hand," Johnson's statement said.


[/break1]jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/federal-judge-throws-out-health-care-lawsuit-filed-by-ron-johnson-b99315486z1-268002681.html]http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolit ... 02681.htmlKinda like deja vu all over again.

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An en banc petition for rehearing is next. Good thing those 3 recent Obama appointees were confirmed.Am I missing snark or something?Chief Judge William C Griesbach was nominated by Pres GW BushJudge Joseph P Stadtmueller was nominated by Pres ReaganJudge Rudolph T Randa was nominated by Pres GHW BushJudge Lynn Adelman was nominated by Pres ClintonJudge Charles N Cleevert Jr was nominated by Pres Clinton[/break1]wied.uscourts.gov/index.php?option=com_contxtd&catid=11&Itemid=85]http://www.wied.uscourts.gov/index.php? ... &Itemid=85

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An en banc petition for rehearing is next. Good thing those 3 recent Obama appointees were confirmed.Am I missing snark or something?Chief Judge William C Griesbach was nominated by Pres GW BushJudge Joseph P Stadtmueller was nominated by Pres ReaganJudge Rudolph T Randa was nominated by Pres GHW BushJudge Lynn Adelman was nominated by Pres ClintonJudge Charles N Cleevert Jr was nominated by Pres Clinton[/break1]wied.uscourts.gov/index.php?option=com_contxtd&catid=11&Itemid=85]http://www.wied.uscourts.gov/index.php? ... &Itemid=85Snark? Try this link for the correct court: [link]Composition of DC Circuit Court of Appeals,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... ia_Circuit[/link]The panel that gave us this ruling consisted of two conservative Republicans (Griffith - Bush II, Randolph -Bush I). The sole Democratic appointee (Edwards) dissented. Because Randolph and Edwards are on Senior Status, they won't participate in an en banc review.The current list of circuit judges includes 7 Democratic appointees and 4 Republican appointees. So yeah, three recent Obama confirmations are potentially very significant.

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Fourth Circuit Rules For Obama Administration On ACA Interpretation





Soon after the D.C. Circuit delivered a major loss to the Administration in rejecting its statutory interpretation under the ACA in Halbig v. Burwell, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit has delivered an equally important victory on the very same issue in King v. Burwell. This tale of two circuits only increases the likelihood of a Supreme Court review and perhaps the case for expedited appeals.








Fourth Circuit Judge Roger Gregory (who was nominated by George W. Bush but given an recess appointment by Bill Clinton) wrote for the panel. Gregory adopts the deferential standard advocated by Judge Edwards in his Halbig dissent. He finds that the law is ambiguous and thus “Applying deference to the IRS’s determination . . . we uphold the rule as a permissible exercise of the agency’s discretion.” It is a victory for Chevron, which some of us believe gives far too much deference to agencies in their actions and interpretations.





In a ruling that should resonate with many ACA supporters, Gregory holds:





It is therefore clear that widely available tax credits are essential to fulfilling the Act’s primary goals and that Congress was aware of their importance when drafting the bill. The IRS Rule advances this understanding by ensuring that this essential component exists on a sufficiently large scale. The IRS Rule became all the more important once a significant number of states indicated their intent to forgo establishing Exchanges. With only sixteen state-run Exchanges currently in place, the economic framework supporting the Act would crumble if the credits were unavailable on federal Exchanges. Furthermore, without an exception to the individual mandate, millions more Americans unable to purchase insurance without the credits would be forced to pay a penalty that Congress never envisioned imposing on them. The IRS Rule avoids both these unforeseen and undesirable consequences and thereby advances the true purpose and means of the Act.[link]Opinion,http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Pu ... 1158.P.pdf[/link]
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Snark? Try this link for the correct court: [link]Composition of DC Circuit Court of Appeals,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... ia_Circuit[/link]The panel that gave us this ruling consisted of two conservative Republicans (Griffith - Bush II, Randolph -Bush I). The sole Democratic appointee (Edwards) dissented. Because Randolph and Edwards are on Senior Status, they won't participate in an en banc review.The current list of circuit judges includes 7 Democratic appointees and 4 Republican appointees. So yeah, three recent Obama confirmations are potentially very significant.Wouldn't Ron Johnson's appeal from the USDC for the Eastern District of Wisconsin go to the 7th Circuit instead of the DC Circuit? If so, IIRC nobody has been confirmed there since David Hamilton in 2009 (Johnson blue slipped the nominee for the Wisconsin seat).

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Snark? Try this link for the correct court: [link]Composition of DC Circuit Court of Appeals,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... ia_Circuit[/link]





The panel that gave us this ruling consisted of two conservative Republicans (Griffith - Bush II, Randolph -Bush I). The sole Democratic appointee (Edwards) dissented. Because Randolph and Edwards are on Senior Status, they won't participate in an en banc review.





The current list of circuit judges includes 7 Democratic appointees and 4 Republican appointees. So yeah, three recent Obama confirmations are potentially very significant.Wouldn't Ron Johnson's appeal from the USDC for the Eastern District of Wisconsin go to the 7th Circuit instead of the DC Circuit? If so, IIRC nobody has been confirmed there since David Hamilton in 2009 (Johnson blue slipped the nominee for the Wisconsin seat).I took Stern's comment as applying to Halbig vs. Burwell, decided by the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.

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I took Stern's comment as applying to Halbig vs. Burwell, decided by the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.My error. :oops:

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Joe Ruby - Have a blanket. :towel:

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Fourth Circuit Rules For Obama Administration On ACA InterpretationSoon after the D.C. Circuit delivered a major loss to the Administration in rejecting its statutory interpretation under the ACA in Halbig v. Burwell, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit has delivered an equally important victory on the very same issue in King v. Burwell. This tale of two circuits only increases the likelihood of a Supreme Court review and perhaps the case for expedited appeals. :lol: So much for that short-lived "victory". =D>
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Joe Ruby - Have a blanket. :towel:Sir, that's a towel, not a blanket!

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[link]Reuters,http://news.msn.com/us/us-health-insure ... es#tscptmf[/link]





U.S. health insurers to pay $330 million in premium rebates





(Reuters) - U.S. health insurers will send out about $330 million in rebates to employers and individuals this summer under President Barack Obama's healthcare law, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said on Thursday.





The law, often called Obamacare, requires insurance companies to refund customers when they spend less than 80 percent or 85 percent of healthcare premiums they collect for medical care.





The rebates will go to about 6.8 million people and have a value of about $80 per family. They are to be sent by Aug. 1 either directly to consumers or to the employer providing the health coverage, who is required to pass the savings onto employees, the agency said in a report.
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Don't know where this belongs, but some new stuff from IRS to help with tax prep:Revenue Procedure 2014-37 provides the methodology to determine the applicable percentage table in § 36B(b)(3)(A) of the Internal Revenue Code used to calculate an individual’s premium assistance credit amount for taxable years beginning after calendar year 2014 Link: [/break1]irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-14-37.pdf]http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-14-37.pdfRevenue Procedure 2014-41 provides calculation methods a taxpayer may use to resolve the interrelationship between the section 162(l) (self employed health insurance) deduction and the premium tax credit under section 36B. Link: [/break1]irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-14-41.pdf]http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-14-41.pdfRevenue Procedure 2014-46 provides the 2014 monthly national average premium for qualified health plans that have a bronze level of coverage for taxpayers to use in determining their maximum individual shared responsibility payment under § 5000A(c)(1)(B) Link: [/break1]irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-14-46.pdf]http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-14-46.pdfI'm blogging on this, here: [/break1]wordpress.com/2014/07/25/the-irs-has-spoken/]http://obamacareguide.wordpress.com/201 ... as-spoken/ (It will be a while before I completely wrap my head around the math, so no big hurry)

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[/break1]com/index.php/yp/post/38836/]http://yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/38836/JACKSON – Gov. Phil Bryant placed the blame squarely on President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act for Mississippi’s status as the only state where the number of people without health insurance has increased.“If statistics show that the ill-conceived and so-called Affordable Care Act is resulting in higher rates of uninsured people in Mississippi, I’d say that’s yet another example of a broken promise from Barack Obama,” said the Republican governor when asked to comment on a study by WalletHub showing the percentage of uninsured in Mississippi has increased 3.34 percentage points to 21.46 percent of the total population.Legislative Democrats countered that if the governor and others had led the effort to take advantage of the benefits and options offered by the ACA that the state, like the rest of the nation, would have seen a drop in the number of uninsured.
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Phil Bryant is full of bullshit.

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If he gave a shit he would have set up an exchange and signed up for the Medicaid option. Just another Republican who wants to blame everything on the "Democrat" Party and a President he doesn't like.

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Obamacare Challenge Over Origins of Law Tossed by U.S.A constitutional challenge to the Obama administration’s health-care plan based on the claim a revenue-raising portion of the law originated in the U.S. Senate was thrown out by a federal appeals court.The plaintiff in the 2010 lawsuit argued that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act violates the Constitution’s origination clause, which requires that laws authorizing taxes start in the House, not the Senate.U.S. Circuit Judge Judith Rogers said the penalty under the law for failing to obtain health insurance, called a shared responsibility payment, is only a small part of the Obamacare law.“Where, as here, the Supreme Court has concluded that provision’s revenue-raising function is incidental to its primary purpose, the origination clause does not apply,” Rogers wrote for a three-judge panel. “The analysis is not altered by the fact that the shared responsibility payment may in fact generate substantial revenues.” [/break1]bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-29/obamacare-challenge-over-origins-of-law-tossed-by-u-s-.html]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-2 ... -u-s-.htmlAppeals court upholds Obamacare tax as constitutional[/break1]washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/29/appeals-court-upholds-obamacare-tax-constitutional/]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... itutional/
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Bryant is a lying sack of shit, too.

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[link]Associated Press,http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/probe ... re-rollout[/link]: Probe Exposes Flaws Behind HealthCare.gov Rollout
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