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No it is not right to criticize her.

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PaulG wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:11 am
No it is not right to criticize her.
Is it fair to call her a zealot. Can I explain to the guy why it isn't?

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Its okay to criticize her positions if you disagree with them, but treating her any different for being ''just a kid'' or comments about her mental health are out of bounds for me.

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Gregg wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:19 am
Its okay to criticize her positions if you disagree with them, but treating her any different for being ''just a kid'' or comments about her mental health are out of bounds for me.

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DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:01 am
Is it OK to criticize her?
Personal criticism is a logical fallacy, i.e., ad hominem. Why can't these people challenge her ideas?
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bob wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:37 am
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:01 am
Is it OK to criticize her?
Personal criticism is a logical fallacy, i.e., ad hominem. Why can't these people challenge her ideas?

Is saying she sounds like a zealot a personal criticism or is it challenging her ideas?

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DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:45 am
bob wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:37 am
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:01 am
Is it OK to criticize her?
Personal criticism is a logical fallacy, i.e., ad hominem. Why can't these people challenge her ideas?
Is saying she sounds like a zealot a personal criticism or is it challenging her ideas?
Personal criticism.

"You're attacking her tone because you can't refute her data," etc.
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How dare someone practice their speech before giving it to the UN.
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She is exactly what the world needs right now. I'm a yoooge fan, as you can see. :blink:
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bob wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:37 am
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:01 am
Is it OK to criticize her?
Personal criticism is a logical fallacy, i.e., ad hominem. Why can't these people challenge her ideas?
Their claim that these young ones are nothing more than puppets for adults is also a way to misdirect away from the actual content. They also provide no evidence that the adults are behind the youths' outspokenness, which itself is bearing false witness.

Their way of performing for their base is to attack the person, not the idea. Hence, by way of example, I have felt is it not productive to debate whether Trump is racist. What is important is to demonstrate many of his actions are racist or are directed to stir up the racist feelings of his followers.

But, to get back to Greta Thunberg... you go girl.
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DrIrvingFinegarten wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:01 am
I'm having a discussion with someone who thinks that it's OK to criticize people like Greta Thunberg. He thinks she and David Hogg and others are being used by adults as "human shields". Is he right?

Is it OK to criticize her?
Points, not personalities.

Obviously, if you can't refute the points, the fallback is to attack the person making them.
I've heard this bull before.

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Northland10 wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:53 am
Their claim that these young ones are nothing more than puppets for adults is also a way to misdirect away from the actual content. They also provide no evidence that the adults are behind the youths' outspokenness, which itself is bearing false witness.
Trump's kids are tools of himself. Does he need any other evidence to convince himself?
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"What did Obama know and when did he know it?" Giuliani is fixated on Obama-era scandal-mongering. Fox & Friends hosts keep trying to steer the conversation back to Trump but Rudy won't let them. It's a bizarre spectacle.
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Rudy Giuliani is saying on Fox News that he has had the Ukraine transcript read to him.

I'd be interested in knowing what rationale could possibly exist for a person who does not work for the government getting access to the transcript before Congress.
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has anyone made a gif or short video of the Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round, showing all the people trump has thrown under?

Now that I think of it, a gif would be too short.
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Slim Cognito wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:14 am
has anyone made a gif or short video of the Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round, showing all the people trump has thrown under?

Now that I think of it, a gif would be too short.
Are you kidding? Star Wars has taken up 12 movies so far with countless other media versions and backstories and they had less material to work with.

(think about it, its basically the story of one family with 3 outside villains and a lot of aliens)
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Gregg wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:06 pm
Slim Cognito wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:14 am
...

Now that I think of it, a gif would be too short.
Are you kidding? Star Wars has taken up 12 movies so far with countless other media versions and backstories and they had less material to work with.

(think about it, its basically the story of one family with 3 outside villains and a lot of aliens)
Yahbut, I just wanted something funny to post on my Facebook page.
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Well, if you need something, go with this, then...

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Gregg wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:06 pm
Slim Cognito wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:14 am
has anyone made a gif or short video of the Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round, showing all the people trump has thrown under?

Now that I think of it, a gif would be too short.
Are you kidding? Star Wars has taken up 12 movies so far with countless other media versions and backstories and they had less material to work with.

(think about it, its basically the story of one family with 3 outside villains and a lot of aliens)
So... Trump is Jaba the hut?

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Chilidog wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:30 pm
So... Trump is Jaba the hut?
No. Trump is that little alien that sat on Jabba's throne screaming, laughing at Jabba's jokes, and mimicing the other people talking.



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Suranis wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:22 pm
Chilidog wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:30 pm
So... Trump is Jaba the hut?
No. Trump is that little alien that sat on Jabba's throne screaming, laughing at Jabba's jokes, and mimicing the other people talking.



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Vanity Fair - Gabe Sherman
“It’s Management Bedlam”: Madness at Fox News as Trump Faces Impeachment

In public, Donald Trump’s allies are putting on a brave face, repeating talking points, mostly staying on message. But in private, there are few who believe that the allegations leveled by an intelligence agency whistle-blower that Trump abused American foreign policy to leverage Ukraine into investigating Joe Biden won’t result in considerable damage—if not the complete unraveling of his presidency. “I don’t see how they don’t impeach,” a former West Wing official told me today. “This could unwind very fast, and I mean in days,” a prominent Republican said.

Trump’s final bulwark is liable to be his first one: Fox News. Fox controls the flow of information—what facts are, whether allegations are to be believed—to huge swaths of his base. And Republican senators, who will ultimately decide whether the president remains in office, are in turn exquisitely sensitive to the opinions of Trump’s base. But even before the whistle-blower’s revelations, Fox was having something of a Trump identity crisis, and that bulwark has been wavering. In recent weeks, Trump has bashed Fox News on Twitter, taking particular issue lately with its polling, which, like other reputable polls, has shown the president under significant water. Meanwhile, Trump’s biggest booster seems to be having doubts of his own. This morning, Sean Hannity told friends the whistle-blower’s allegations are “really bad,” a person briefed on Hannity’s conversations told me. (Hannity did not respond to a request for comment). And according to four sources, Fox Corp CEO Lachlan Murdoch is already thinking about how to position the network for a post-Trump future. A person close to Lachlan told me that Fox News has been the highest rated cable network for seventeen years, and “the success has never depended on any one administration.” (A Fox Corp spokesperson declined to comment.)

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Edit: Addie beat me to it.

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I don't have time to listen to the whole thing. I listened to a little as I was doing other stuff. Sounds like quite the spin job.
Sounds like she blames Democrats for the millions spent on the Mueller investigation.
There was no Quid Pro Quo. So I'd like you to do us a favor has nothing to do with the later discussion of Joe Biden.

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Fox News Host Todd Starnes Out After Suggesting Democrats Worship Pagan God Moloch

His removal comes a few days after he said on his radio program on Monday that Democrats do not believe in the Christian God and instead may worship Moloch, a pagan god often associated with child sacrifice. When asked for comment, Fox News confirmed the news that Starnes is no longer working at the network but did not elaborate on the reasons behind Starnes’ departure.
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