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Adding Hurricane Harvey as it's own topic because it's going to be very, very bad, every prayer will help. Brian Norcross is now a Senior Hurricane Expert at The Weather Channel, he became famous during Hurricane Andrew 25 years ago. He's on TWC now and the alarm is very high. Bryan's twitter is https://twitter.com/TWCBryan

Category 4, 130mph winds. It's the surge and flooding that will be horrible. Unthinkable rainfall rates.
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https://www.pscp.tv/Jeff_Piotrowski/1zqKVRbYXWWKB

live stream from the middle of the storm.


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I'm up in San Antonio, so it currently looks like we're not in for much more than tropical storm force here, and that not for hours. Wind is already starting to pick up a little bit, though.


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Mikedunford wrote:I'm up in San Antonio, so it currently looks like we're not in for much more than tropical storm force here, and that not for hours. Wind is already starting to pick up a little bit, though.
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Post by YaYa » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:02 pm

Oh No. Watching this on The Weather Channel. I live in Harvey, LA and survived Katrina, 12 years ago at this same time, (hubs promised it would be like "camping" and he lived through Betsey...blah blah blah....I believed him...lol) and this one looks horrible. My heart goes out to these people. We will help the people of Texas. Sending my most positive vibes to all the people in Harvey's path. (deleted my last trivia sentence which I got from TWC on Twitter...alternative facts). My bad.



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Post by Orlylicious » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:05 pm

First Cat 4 to land on the coast in 56 years. There's a lot of concern the storm has slowed down to 7mph. 130mph Pressure 938mb
Right at the top of the hour: Landfall was 11:00pm San Jose Island. Round One. Everything is staging in San Antonio and seems to be far enough away, great city. Stay safe Mike.


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Are the lights on at FEMA?



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Six hours ago the Dallas News published this, Jill Cowan made a big bet that's insensitive at best.
One thing Hurricane Harvey won't destroy is Texas economy, experts say
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As the Gulf Coast braces for the impact of what forecasters say could be the nastiest hurricane to hit Texas in close to a decade, insurers and economists may actually bear some good news. Yes, tough times are likely ahead for lots of families. And the poor will be hit harder than wealthier residents, for whom a hotel stay outside the storm’s path is more of a headache than a devastating financial blow. Hurricane Harvey could decimate hundreds of thousands of homes and cause billions of dollars in damage. But the region’s economic momentum will likely help any hurricane-battered Texas cities bounce back even stronger than before, experts said.
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All that means that even if the storm actually destroys more than 200,000 homes along the coast, causing close to $40 billion in damage, as the property information firm CoreLogic predicted in a worst-case scenario, Houston won’t be down for long. In fact, said Bernard Weinstein, associate director of SMU’s Maguire Energy Institute, in cold economic terms, major disasters can boost productivity. While lots of people won’t be able to do their jobs as the storm surges through, affected areas will also attract big spending in the aftermath. “You do have a huge influx of spending,” he said. “Both in private insurance and in federal disaster aid.”
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But on the flip side, customers might not face the kind of skyrocketing insurance rates they might have following a hurricane in past years, said Hank Watkins, president of specialty insurance market Lloyd’s in North America. First of all, regulatory changes made in the wake of Hurricane Katrina mean that it’s unlikely any property insurers will go belly up, leaving homeowners on the hook to rebuild. And since Hurricane Ike, the global insurance market has changed, as the U.S. economy clawed its way out of the recession. Now, Watkins said, managers of huge pots of money can’t find enough places to put it. Which means lots of money has found its way into the insurance industry. “If this thing turns out to be even larger than what we’re looking at, there’s enough capital and enough competition for companies to be able to offer pricing that’s not going to shock customers,” Watkins said.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather ... xperts-say

Saw recently this area is like 20% of Oil and 50% of Refining. This is going to have an impact.

85% of rice was harvested but only 9% of cotton.
Still, Klein said rice is in better shape going into the storm versus cotton.

"The cotton crop in this area of Texas is the biggest and most beautiful that anyone can remember in years, and probably two-thirds of it is still in the fields. It's going to be disastrous for them."

Also, Klein said he spoke to several farmers in the storm path and heard stories about rice and cotton producers helping each other out in recent days trying to get crops harvested.

As for cotton, Rippey said the USDA estimates only 9 percent of the Texas cotton crop is harvested.

"Most of the harvested acreage is what would be in the path of the storm," Rippey told CNBC. "The fact that they've hit 9 percent is favorable because they've gotten that cotton out of the field in advance of the hurricane."
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Corpus Christi takes beating from Hurricane Harvey
Officials assess damage at city closest to center of Category 4
By Michael Seiden , Andrea Torres - Digital Reporter/Producer , Ross Palombo - Washington, D.C., Bureau Chief , Betty Davis - Chief Meteorologist
Posted: 1:14 AM, August 26, 2017
Updated: 2:02 AM, August 26, 2017

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - Hurricane Harvey's destructive winds caused damage Saturday in downtown Corpus Christi. The city was the closest to the center of the Category 4 storm slamming the Texas Gulf Coast. The eye of the storm made landfall about 10 p.m. some 30 miles northeast of Corpus Christi.

In terms of economic impact, Harvey will probably be on par with Hurricane Katrina, said University of Miami senior hurricane researcher Brian McNoldy. "The Houston area and Corpus Christi are going to be a mess for a long time," McNoldy said.
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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:28 am

Coverage notes
-- ABC is planning a special report at 2am ET anchored by Juju Chang... and then six hours of special storm coverage on Saturday morning, from 5 a.m. until 11 a.m. ET, led by its weekend "GMA" team...

-- CNN, Fox News and MSNBC will be live all night/early morning...

-- MSNBC says it plans to stay live until 11pm Saturday...

-- The Weather Channel's special report continues "until further notice..."
From Jeff Masters:
Harvey Slams Ashore in Texas; Catastrophic Flood Threat Still to Come
Bob Henson · August 26, 2017, 4:36 AM

The latest 5-day precipitation outlook from the NOAA/NWS Weather Prediction Center (see Figure 3) projects that an area larger than the state of Massachusetts, including Houston and Galveston, can expect more than 20” of rain between now and Wednesday. Amounts of more than 10” cover an even larger area, extending into parts of the Austin-San Antonio urban corridor and including Corpus Christi and Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX, and Lake Charles, LA. Local rainfall amounts could be far above 20", as suggested by multiple models. Very serious flooding over the next several days can be expected well inland from the areas immediately at risk from Harvey’s initial landfall and storm surge. For example, Austin/San Antonio NWS office notes the potential for life-threatening flash flooding, especially from San Antonio south and east.

There is virtually no precedent for such a slow-moving system maintaining at least tropical storm strength along the Texas coast for five days. Whether or not Harvey maintains tropical storm strength will depend in large part on how close its center drifts to the coast. Regardless of its status, Harvey’s slow movement and huge amounts of moisture will lead to enormous rainfall and will likely produce vast areas of flooding. Official NHC storm surge guidance, which extends out to 72 hours (currently through Monday evening, August 28), is not intended to depict the longer-term threat—perhaps extending well beyond Monday—posed just inland by huge amounts of freshwater blocked by the surge from flowing to the sea. The multi-day onshore flow and storm surge coupled with extreme inland rainfall would push enormous amounts of water from several directions into Galveston Bay and the Houston Ship Channel. The result could be widespread, possibly unprecedented flooding early next week across southeastern parts of the Houston metropolitan area along and near the bay and the ship channel. See our post from Friday morning for more on this serious threat.
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Some San Antonio hotels lowered their rates for evacuees. Despite that some families will encounter financial crises while on the road.

If there is a Trump-branded hotel in the area, I bet they raised rates.


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Post by Patagoniagirl » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:42 am

I was up watching news coverage this morning. News stations had a couple of mayors and emergency management officials on via phone saying they had not yet been out to survey damages because it was (at the time) still too unsafe. They then cut away to several news journalists standing in vicious winds, power lines snapping debris flying. Sheesh.



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Post by TexasFilly » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:54 am

This is what I've been watching to see what's going on in Houston: http://abc13.com/23374/ (Hope the link works!)


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Post by Kendra » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:03 am

CNN has a reporter in Rockport (I think that's the name of the town), no cell service he had to call in on a satellite phone. It sounds like it might be pretty dire once officials are able to get out and about. Police cars with windows blown out. Calls that came in from folks who stayed put and roofs and walls were coming down. When the eye passed through, officials were able to get out and get 20 people to safety.



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Post by Volkonski » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:14 am

https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?pro ... X&loop=yes

The band of heavy rain has moved to the east of Beltway 8 and is starting to affect the area where our home is located. Cedar Bayou at HWY 146 is now at 4.3 feet having risen a foot in the last hour. Top of Bank there is 5.8 feet so with heavy rain coming the bayou will top its banks within the next hour.


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Post by Volkonski » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:20 am

Message from a friend of ours in League City.
FYI: Waiting out Harvey. Lost power for a few hours last night. Howling wind and on and off rain. Hope everyone in Harvey's path are safe.
Glad we are on Long Island right now. ;)


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There is a tornado watch. A tornado has already damaged homes, businesses, and schools in Fort Bend County.


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Volkonski wrote:https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?pro ... X&loop=yes

The band of heavy rain has moved to the east of Beltway 8 and is starting to affect the area where our home is located. Cedar Bayou at HWY 146 is now at 4.3 feet having risen a foot in the last hour. Top of Bank there is 5.8 feet so with heavy rain coming the bayou will top its banks within the next hour.
That's the problem that our friends who are not familiar with Houston may not understand. There are bayous and creeks freaking everywhere. These are sources for flooding when we get periods of heavy rains. But when we get heavy stationary rains for days on end, disaster.


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Kendra wrote:CNN has a reporter in Rockport (I think that's the name of the town), no cell service he had to call in on a satellite phone. It sounds like it might be pretty dire once officials are able to get out and about. Police cars with windows blown out. Calls that came in from folks who stayed put and roofs and walls were coming down. When the eye passed through, officials were able to get out and get 20 people to safety.
I've got a fifth-hand boots on the ground report confirming the situation in Rockport.

A text from my cousin in Texas:
A friend here is getting reports from a friend who has a cousin who is is first responder in Rockport & said it is gone. High School, fire department, police department, & public works are all devastated.
Fortunately, her brother and their property in Lake Jackson are fine.


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Post by Volkonski » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:34 am

https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?pro ... X&loop=yes

The heaviest rain band now runs from Galveston north to the east of Houston and then curves west to Bryan/College Station. The band is dropping about 2 inches of rain an hour. The width of the band of heavy rain is about 15 miles wide.


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Post by TexasFilly » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:38 am

The local news stations in Houston were all agog over a woman in Meyerland (which floods at least once a year for as long as I can remember). She spent $4800 and wrapped her house in plastic, with the bottom secured by 18,000 lbs of sandbags (likely installed by illegal immigrants :eek2: ). https://www.click2houston.com/news/man- ... m-flooding

I am skeptical this will work. If it does, I can see the insurance companies denying claims for other people for failure to mitigate. Kind of kidding, but after this is over, the no-joke part of this is that the insurance companies will be at war with homeowners over coverage, will be slow or no pay, and lawyers will be busy with this for years. Then there's the problem of getting your home repaired. Waiting for qualified contractors to repair your home could take months to a year. Many will be displaced from their homes just due to flood damage. Oy!


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TexasFilly wrote:The local news stations in Houston were all agog over a woman in Meyerland (which floods at least once a year for as long as I can remember). She spent $4800 and wrapped her house in plastic, with the bottom secured by 18,000 lbs of sandbags (likely installed by illegal immigrants :eek2: ). https://www.click2houston.com/news/man- ... m-flooding

I am skeptical this will work. If it does, I can see the insurance companies denying claims for other people for failure to mitigate. Kind of kidding, but after this is over, the no-joke part of this is that the insurance companies will be at war with homeowners over coverage, will be slow or no pay, and lawyers will be busy with this for years. Then there's the problem of getting your home repaired. Waiting for qualified contractors to repair your home could take months to a year. Many will be displaced from their homes just due to flood damage. Oy!
A relative was a claims adjuster for USAA in the aftermath of Katrina. She said her marching orders were, "find a way to pay the claim." She told me that they paid on a lot of clams that might not have been covered by the policy, but their headquarters told them to err on the side of finding coverage. They were like, "most of these people have been our customers for decades. And now their lives are completely devastated." As a USAA member myself, that made me happy :clap:



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Post by Volkonski » Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:30 am

Cedar Bayou now at 5.5'. The folks who live on the eastern side of our development will be getting nervous. The house foundations there were built on mounds of earth so that if the bayou gets to 7 or more feet they will be on little islands.
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Volkonski wrote:https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?pro ... X&loop=yes

The band of heavy rain has moved to the east of Beltway 8 and is starting to affect the area where our home is located. Cedar Bayou at HWY 146 is now at 4.3 feet having risen a foot in the last hour. Top of Bank there is 5.8 feet so with heavy rain coming the bayou will top its banks within the next hour.
That's the problem that our friends who are not familiar with Houston may not understand. There are bayous and creeks freaking everywhere. These are sources for flooding when we get periods of heavy rains. But when we get heavy stationary rains for days on end, disaster.


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Post by Slartibartfast » Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:51 am

From Facebook via my cousin (no link for Rikker :crying: ):
NEWS FROM ROCKPORT. My family is OKAY. Our shop, house, my brother's trailer and house are fine. All the trees are uprooted/gone. Lines are down everywhere. The generator my family has wasn't working, so I'm sure my dad is trying to get it to work now.

Most of Rockport is stripped to the bones. Most buildings are just the frames, except for some that looked untouched due to the way they're built.

There is not too much flooding, for my brother said there wasn't really a surge (and we're super close to the water). All tress are gone basically. All power lines have fallen, street lights, etc.

My brother is currently driving around checking on family friends' places. We will keep updated as much as possible. The cell towers are down, but my brother got one bar to call me after driving around for an hour.

There was a senior center that had collapsed with 10 people in it. They have been moved to the jail for medical attention, and as far as I know, everyone is fine.

The high school's gold gym is gone. The school itself has parts caved in, windows in the cafeteria are blown with debris dragged but seems to be still standing.

Rockport will be dealing with a lot of rain for a while now, and that will cause flooding. They will be out of power for weeks to come. Once it is safe and available, many will be taking trips to bring supplies to Rockport. Please, if you have a chance and can, donate as much as possible. We will have to come back from this devastation, for our little fishing town is not in the best of shape.


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