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Post by Gregg » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:22 am

They ought to send him a bill to repaint the wall, like a they do when you trash a hotel room.
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Post by Somerset » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:22 am

Gregg wrote:George W. Bush, for all his faults, was capable of looking and perhaps even being genuinely kind and gracious. If nothing else he learned proper manners and humility at Yale. He definitely had a good combination of old money manners and decent Christian values. Unlike a lot of the Evangelical movement I always thought he honestly was true to charitable intentions and his religion, even if I'm not a believer in what that religion holds. (its harder for me to admit a Yalie has any good qualities than it is for most of you to admit a Republican has any :-D )
LSE will do that to a chap, I hear ;)

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Post by Volkonski » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:00 am

In Baytown ripping out sheet rock and towing things away. Many stories when I get a chance.
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Post by AndyinPA » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:02 am

Good luck with all that. It must be really tough.

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Post by Whatever4 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 am

Are there alternatives for Sheetrock? Musing about building a small house. :think: Would be nice to be prepared for flood rehab.
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Whatever4 wrote:Are there alternatives for Sheetrock? Musing about building a small house. :think: Would be nice to be prepared for flood rehab.
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Post by TexasFilly » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:24 pm

Heard from a friend that there are over one million flooded out vehicles in Houston, and that they have run out of room and the auto track in Baytown has been opened as an adjunct auto junkyard.
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Volkonski wrote:In Baytown ripping out sheet rock and towing things away. Many stories when I get a chance.
Be careful about back injury, rotator cuff tearing, knee twisting, and water moccasins.
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TexasFilly wrote:Heard from a friend that there are over one million flooded out vehicles in Houston, and that they have run out of room and the auto track in Baytown has been opened as an adjunct auto junkyard.
Teh Donald will claim it was his achievement when the auto industry takes a temporary spike in the balance sheets due to the replacenent production... :(

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Post by Addie » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:31 am

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Hurricane Harvey: Mexican volunteers cross Texas border to bring aid to victims of Houston flooding



Mexico has come to the aid of the United States following Hurricane Harvey, sending Red Cross volunteers, food and supplies to a country whose President has proposed building a wall to keep the two neighbours apart.

Mexican volunteers wearing white vests labelled “Cruz Roja Mexicana” are distributing food and lending a sympathetic ear to some of the 1,800 storm refugees at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston, Texas, a temporary shelter.

A caravan of Mexican storm relief was due to be shipped north for victims of a storm that has killed some 60 people and left tens of thousands homeless since first coming ashore 25 August.

“We all know that there are some agreements and disagreements between governments, but for the Mexican Red Cross and the volunteers from the Mexican Red Cross, we are more than glad to be helpful and do some stuff to help people,” said Gustavo Santillan, one of the Mexican Red Cross volunteers.
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Post by GreatGrey » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:37 am

TexasFilly wrote:Heard from a friend that there are over one million flooded out vehicles in Houston, and that they have run out of room and the auto track in Baytown has been opened as an adjunct auto junkyard.
They'll be dried out and on El Paso used car lots in 6 months.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:45 am

GreatGrey wrote:
TexasFilly wrote:Heard from a friend that there are over one million flooded out vehicles in Houston, and that they have run out of room and the auto track in Baytown has been opened as an adjunct auto junkyard.
They'll be dried out and on El Paso used car lots in 6 months.
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Post by Foggy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:19 am

Addie wrote:Independent
Hurricane Harvey: Mexican volunteers cross Texas border to bring aid to victims of Houston flooding

They're sending us their best, Donald. :blink:
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Addie wrote:Independent
Hurricane Harvey: Mexican volunteers cross Texas border to bring aid to victims of Houston flooding

Mexico has come to the aid of the United States following Hurricane Harvey, sending Red Cross volunteers, food and supplies to a country whose President has proposed building a wall to keep the two neighbours apart.
I cried when I read this. I am feeling overwhelmed today, what with Harvey, Irma mowing down all in her path through the Caribbean (& finding out today that friends in the Orlando area are NOT leaving - he is one of my best friends from UF geology grad school), DACA, & so many other heartbreaking messes that just this bit of kindness from a country being denigrated at the highest levels of our government pushed me right over the edge into an ugly cry. I suspect I needed that. :crying:

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Post by Addie » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:26 pm

Aw, HilltownGrrl :bighug:
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Post by HilltownGrrl » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:21 pm

Thanks, Addie, it's been one wild year, hasn't it.
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On the bright side, I signed up to volunteer with our local Habitat for Humanity & have my volunteer orientation tonight. I realized recently that I needed to do something real/hands-on to help people, something positive that gets me away from the news. Besides, I'm younger, though maybe not spryer*, than Jimmy Carter & if he can do this, then I damn well can, too. Theoretically, at least.

*very bad left knee which has no lateral meniscus + 40 years of wear & tear on said knee after meniscus was removed. My lower leg,per my doctor a couple of weeks ago, "no longer hangs straight in relation to the upper leg" :shock: Yes, I have a referral to an orthopedist.

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Post by TexasFilly » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:15 am

Here's a list of the 17 Senators who voted against Harvey Relief Funding:
Republican senators were the only ones to vote against a measure to advance a bill that would provide emergency relief funding to the victims of Hurricane Harvey and temporarily raise the debt ceiling and fund the government through mid-December.

The 17 senators include: Sens. Bob Corker of Tennessee, Deb Fischer of Nebraska, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, Steve Daines of Montana, Jeff Flake of Arizona, James Lankford of Oklahoma, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Michael Enzi of Wyoming, Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, Mike Lee of Utah, James Risch of Idaho, Joni Ernst of Iowa, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, John McCain of Arizona and Ben Sasse of Nebraska.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/07/here- ... ling-bill/

No doubt most of them will say it's the debt ceiling they objected to, but just like the rest of the country remembers the assholes in Texas who voted against Sandy relief, remember these names. As I've said before $7.9 billion is a drop in the bucket, but it's better than nothing, which is what Lindsey Graham et al. would prefer.
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TexasFilly wrote:Here's a list of the 17 Senators who voted against Harvey Relief Funding:
Republican senators were the only ones to vote against a measure to advance a bill that would provide emergency relief funding to the victims of Hurricane Harvey and temporarily raise the debt ceiling and fund the government through mid-December.

The 17 senators include: Sens. Bob Corker of Tennessee, Deb Fischer of Nebraska, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, Steve Daines of Montana, Jeff Flake of Arizona, James Lankford of Oklahoma, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Michael Enzi of Wyoming, Lindsay Graham of South Carolina, Mike Lee of Utah, James Risch of Idaho, Joni Ernst of Iowa, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, John McCain of Arizona and Ben Sasse of Nebraska.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/07/here- ... ling-bill/

No doubt most of them will say it's the debt ceiling they objected to, but just like the rest of the country remembers the assholes in Texas who voted against Sandy relief, remember these names. As I've said before $7.9 billion is a drop in the bucket, but it's better than nothing, which is what Lindsey Graham et al. would prefer.
Absolutely disgusting.

On the upside, seismic activity has increased around Yellowstone, leading to fears that the "big one" isn't far away, so let's see how Daines, Enzi, Risch, and Lee feel about it when their states need a bail-out. (If the big one and would be devastated by an earthquake.)

Also, John McCain? For shame.

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Post by TexasFilly » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:16 am

I read an op-ed the other day, I believe in the Washington Post, by two tax lawyers (at least one of whom is a professor at Duke). Their idea was that because Texas has no state income tax, the Harvey relief should be a loan that taxpayers of Texas should have to repay. Nothing like ex post facto strings being imposed in the middle of a disaster. They implied that because Texas does not spend what they believe is needed in infrastructure, the massive flooding was a result of Texans paying low state taxes. I know of no infrastructure that could handle/anticipate 50 inches of rain in low lying areas. They also glossed over the high sales tax (we pay 8.25 percent) in Texas, which puts a major squeeze on the poor. Since NY pays really high state taxes, I guess the Sandy relief money should have been a loan too. Also.
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TexasFilly wrote:
I read an op-ed the other day, I believe in the Washington Post, by two tax lawyers (at least one of whom is a professor at Duke). Their idea was that because Texas has no state income tax, the Harvey relief should be a loan that taxpayers of Texas should have to repay. Nothing like ex post facto strings being imposed in the middle of a disaster. They implied that because Texas does not spend what they believe is needed in infrastructure, the massive flooding was a result of Texans paying low state taxes. I know of no infrastructure that could handle/anticipate 50 inches of rain in low lying areas. They also glossed over the high sales tax (we pay 8.25 percent) in Texas, which puts a major squeeze on the poor. Since NY pays really high state taxes, I guess the Sandy relief money should have been a loan too. Also.
Yeah, that's just ridiculous. A lot of states base their tax rates on things that are unique to that state. There's no sales tax in Delaware, presumably because they make enough money by being the go-to state for incorporation. I grew up in Tennessee, and for all the time I was on active duty in the military it was my home of record. We paid no state income tax, because Tennessee is pretty much the "flag of convenience" of interstate trucking. I'm sure Texas has the same sort of thing (I just don't happen to know what it is). But I say, any state that can get enough income from an out-of-state source that is not a drain on the states resources, and as a result can allow its own citizens to keep some of their hard-earned money in their pockets, is doing a good job.

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Post by maydijo » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:45 am

Yeah, it's totally Texas's fault it got hit by a hurricane. If they'd only configured a different tax system, this whole thing could've been avoided. Oregon doesn't have sales tax, but it has income tax. As a result, nothing bad ever happens there.

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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:01 am

I'm starting to REALLY believe in Karma or gawd or something with the hurricanes and fires and earthquakes and such. :eek2:
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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:48 am

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:I'm starting to REALLY believe in Karma or gawd or something with the hurricanes and fires and earthquakes and such. :eek2:
Yeah - some deity got angry cause TX voted 52% for Teh Donald and gave him bigly electoral college votes... :twisted:

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