Man-Made Disasters

[Slim Cognito]

This just proves the point there is no reason to wear a mask in Florida. Y'all are dead already. You just don't know your funeral dates yet.

Load my dead body into a cannon and aim it at the DeSantis' residence.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

Thank you, V. Hubby was researching this.

Here is a link some locals are following. Kind of incredible that they are claiming no danger to local water supplies.

https://www.mymanatee.org/news___events ... int_update

[AndyinPA]

Not quite sure if this is the right place to put this, but I will. I'll cross post if I can find some place better.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... percenters

Phoenix has a deep history of environmental injustice. Low-income communities and communities of color suffer disproportionately from Phoenix’s extreme heat, a problem compounded by water access and affordability.

No one appears to have studied how flood irrigation correlates with wealth or race. Research indicates white, wealthier people are more likely to live in grassier, shadier neighborhoods. In one study from 2008, local researchers found that during one heat wave, the temperature discrepancy between a wealthier neighborhood and a poorer one in Phoenix hit 13.5F. Trees and grass accounted for the difference.

Whiter, wealthier people were more likely to have more vegetation, and in turn, cooler climates, the authors found. That study did not examine how greener areas were watered, but any irrigation has costs. “Affluent people ‘buy’ more favorable microclimates,” the researchers concluded.

Cynthia Campbell, water resources advisor for the city of Phoenix, says she understands why wealthy neighborhoods might still have flood irrigation while poorer ones don’t, even if both have legal rights to the water: high-income families can afford to spend hundreds of dollars on water delivery, pipeline repairs, and irrigation-district taxes. For lower-income ones, that kind of spending might not be possible.

[AndyinPA]

[Volkonski]

Lauren St. Germain
@LaurenWFTS
Overnight - drones may have detected a 2nd breach at the leaking Piney Point pond.
@MCGPublicSafety
Director says teams of engineers are out there now assessing the area.

Director Saur also says 20 additional pumps are there and should be online by end of day.

[Slim Cognito]

I'm putting this under man-made disasters because this panic is man (and media) made.

We all know about the pipeline hack from Russia and I don't mean to downplay that. I know it's causing havoc in areas serviced by that pipeline. But here in SWFL, we are not. But people saw the media coverage and rushed out to buy gasoline causing a few of the stations to run out. This morning, Hubs called me once he got to work today and reported gas prices haven't changed, cars seem to be filling up as usual (no unusually long lines) and he saw tankers waiting to deliver.

On a related note, I have the Next Door app and got a notification about a post titled "gas prices." Someone in town was panicked despite assuring everyone she was able to get gas and the price was in the same price range it has been for weeks now. Cue the conspiracy theorist who decided to hijack the thread with "hang on, the next election is coming and we'll all be freed of this socialist jackboot on our throats." In the past, I've seen the CTs outnumber the reasonable people 5-1. Not today. Only one other person backed up CT#1 and everyone else was mocking them. So that made my day.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

Glad to hear the conspiracy theorists' population is dwindling.

[AndyinPA]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... e-chamber/

Scientists monitoring the ruins of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine have seen a surge in fission reactions in an inaccessible chamber within the complex. They are now investigating whether the problem will stabilise or require a dangerous and difficult intervention to prevent a runaway nuclear reaction.

The explosion at Chernobyl in 1986 brought down walls and sealed off many rooms and corridors. Tonnes of fissile material from the interior of a reactor were strewn throughout the facility and the heat it generated melted sand from the reactor walls with concrete and steel to form lava-like and intensely radioactive substances that oozed into lower floors.

One chamber, known as subreactor room 305/2, is thought to contain large amounts of this material, but it is inaccessible and hasn’t been seen by human or robotic eyes since the disaster.

Now, researchers have seen a spike in neutron emissions from the room, with levels increasing around 40 per cent since the start of 2016. This points to a growing nuclear fission reaction, so researchers are trying to determine if this surge will fizzle out, as previous spikes in other parts of the ruins have done, or whether they will need to find a way to access the room and intervene.

[Lani]

1 Dead, Massive Search and Rescue Effort After Partial Collapse of Condo Building in Surfside
Miami-Dade Fire Rescue officials said more than 80 units responded to the collapse at a condominium building near 88th Street and Collins Avenue around 2 a.m.
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/1-d ... e/2479570/

Estimation that 12 stories collapsed. Due to the age of the building, is was due for an examination. I forget the word for it, something about a requirement to study the structure for any problems.

[Lani]

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[Slim Cognito]

[RTH10260]

Miami - a third world country

[neonzx]

Miami - a third world country

I don't know any third-world countries where collapsing condo buildings have units that go for $6-700kUSD.

[RTH10260]

Miami - a third world country

I don't know any third-world countries where collapsing condo buildings have units that go for $6-700kUSD.

all those snake-oil sales men

[Estiveo]

[neonzx]

That's incredible footage. Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but the building was only 40 years old.

[RTH10260]

WOW, just WOW.

That looks like a whole complex has gone down. The image further up hinted just on a partial collapse of a bulding section. How come only 35 people got trapped and one dead? Was there a warning that the stuff was crumbling?

[RTH10260]

Fifty-one people unaccounted for in Florida building collapse -officials
Reuters

June 24 (Reuters) - Hundreds of fire and rescue workers scoured through tons of rubble on Thursday after a 12-story oceanfront residential building partially collapsed in southern Florida, with at least one person dead and 51 still unaccounted for, officials said.

Sally Heyman, a Miami-Dade County Commissioner, said officials have been unable to make contact with 51 people who "supposedly" live in the building, home to a mix of people including families and part-time "snow birds" who spend the winter months in Florida.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/huge-e ... 021-06-24/

[neonzx]

WOW, just WOW.

That looks like a whole complex has gone down. The image further up hinted just on a partial collapse of a bulding section. How come only 35 people got trapped and one dead? Was there a warning that the stuff was crumbling?

This morning they just started searching the collapsed units in earnest. The death toll is not going to be pretty.

[RTH10260]

https:// mobile.twitter.com/wsvn/status/1408054046808805379

Seeing other images of the collapse this video clip does not match by the size of collapse.

[Volkonski]

It is possible that the foundation shifted destabilizing the structure.

If it is close to the ocean the ground underneath might have been undermined over time.

[filly]

It is possible that the foundation shifted destabilizing the structure.

If it is close to the ocean the ground underneath might have been undermined over time.

I was hoping you'd weigh in on this.

Another possibility is the concrete itself. It is my understanding that in the 1980s cement kilns were burning hazardous wastes in their fuel (including, but not limited to, PCBs) and some of the chemicals from that process leached into the cement which becomes part of the concrete. It is also my understanding that some of those chemicals corroded rebar faster than normal. Not saying that happened here, but it's a possibility and could have been a contributing factor.

Because this was built 40 years ago I anticipate that getting construction records will be a nightmare for the massive litigation that will follow this tragedy. Many of witnesses who were involved with the construction are likely dead by now.

[neonzx]

It is possible that the foundation shifted destabilizing the structure.

If it is close to the ocean the ground underneath might have been undermined over time.

It is close.

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[zekeb]

It was reported that the building was undergoing an inspection. If you look at the remaining part of the building, you will see some large cracks where the building meets the support pillars. I suspect that this building has been sick for a long time. This reminds me of a building owned by the county I worked for. It was an engineering disaster. Occupants complained of loud popping noises shortly after moving in. That building was closed for three years (I think it was three years) while undergoing massive structural fixes.

[filly]

It will also be interesting to find out how often this building was inspected, when it was last inspected and who the inspectors were.