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Just in: Joao Gilberto, the giant of Brazilian bossa nova music, died Saturday. He was 88. His collaboration with American jazz saxophonist Stan Getz on “Getz/Gilberto” became one of the best-selling jazz albums.



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Brazilian singer, guitarist and songwriter Joao Gilberto, who is considered one of the fathers of the Bossa Nova genre, has died at 88 in Rio de Janeiro.
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Martin Charnin, knew him since my teens. His daughter Sasha was part of our pack, she went to Stagedoor Manor with a bunch of our friends. He was an awesome guy, he'd come round to see showcases and helped a lot of people get their starts in the business. Will miss you Marty!
Martin Charnin, Tony-Winning Creator of Annie, Dies at 84
by Beth Stevens • Jul 8, 2019

Martin Charnin, the Tony-winning creator of Annie, died on July 6 in White Plains, New York after suffering a heart attack three days earlier. He was 84.

His daughter confirmed the news on Facebook: “Our father passed away. Martin Charnin lived a very full life…He’s in a painless place, now. Probably looking for Cole Porter and Ira Gershwin. We adored Daddy and not fully accepting it yet. He loved and lived his best! He was the best father we could have ever imagined. He is survived by his wife, all of his kids and his three grandchildren, several dogs, cats and a kid with no pupils. And as loving as he was has kept all of us completely directionless. …Like he said and as corny as this sounds...the sun’ll will come out tomorrow.”

Charnin is best known as the conceiver, director and lyricist of the 1977 musical Annie, the beloved show based on the comic strip Little Orphan Annie, which he wrote with composer Charles Strouse and librettist Thomas Meehan. It follows a Depression-era orphan whose luck changes when she is chosen to spend Christmas at the residence of the wealthy Oliver Warbucks. The musical, which began life at the Goodspeed Opera House in 1976, went on to be nominated for 10 Tony Awards, including Best Director, and won seven, including Best Musical, Best Score and Best Book. It also won Drama Desk Awards for direction and lyrics and a Grammy for its original cast album. It ran on Broadway for over 2,000 performances and has been revived twice. Charnin also worked on the 1993 sequel Annie Warbucks, which ran off-Broadway for 200 performances.

Charnin got his start on Broadway as Big Deal in the original production of West Side Story in 1957. He went on to a few other acting parts, including appearing in the 1959 revue The Girls Against the Boys, starring Dick Van Dyke. But he soon began work as a lyricist with Broadway’s Hot Spot, which starred Judy Holliday and featured music by Mary Rodgers, in 1963. He worked as a writer, director and producer for many well-known cabaret artists. He made his Broadway directing debut in 1973, conceiving and directing the revue Nash at Nine, based on the works of Ogden Nash. His long list of writing and directing stage credits include Bar Mitzvah Boy, I Remember Mama, The Madwoman of Central Park West, La Strada, The First and many more. He won three Emmys, one for Annie, the Women in the Life of a Man, starring Anne Bancroft, in 1970 and two for ’S Wonderful, ’S Marvelous, ’S Gershwin, which starred Jack Lemmon and Fred Astaire, in 1972. The writer, director, producer and actor is survived by his wife Shelly Burch, two children, Randy and Sasha, and three grandchildren, Maxwell, Gus and Oliver.
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Two-time presidential candidate Ross Perot dies at 89
H. Ross Perot, the colorful, self-made Texas billionaire who twice ran for president, has died.

Family spokesman James Fuller says Perot died early Tuesday. He was 89.

Perot rose from Depression-era poverty to become one of the nation’s richest men as the founder of computer services giant Electronic Data Systems Corp.

In 1992, Perot jumped into the presidential campaign as an independent candidate, challenging President George H.W. Bush and Democrat Bill Clinton.

Perot drew nearly 19% of the vote, the biggest percentage for a third-party hopeful in 80 years. Republicans blamed him for Bush’s defeat.

He had founded EDS in 1962 and sold control of it to General Motors for $2.5 billion in 1984. He later founded another company, Perot Systems.
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MN-Skeptic wrote:
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Two-time presidential candidate Ross Perot dies at 89
Woah. I haven't heard anything about him in a long while. His '92 campaign was an interesting time. Am I wrong in equating it somewhat similar it to Bernie fever? He had some good policy ideas and I respect him for running (and putting his own money up). I had several friends in my circle then who tried to ply me to get on board to no avail.

RIP, Sir.
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Remember his running mate, Admiral William Stockdale? The Veep debate made for great comedy on SNL.
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:53 am
Remember his running mate, Admiral William Stockdale? The Veep debate made for great comedy on SNL.
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:53 am
Remember his running mate, Admiral William Stockdale? The Veep debate made for great comedy on SNL.
Yeah, and that was unfortunate and probably the biggest blunder of Perot's campaign. Stockdale's dementia or whatever mental decline he had didn't deserve the ridicule dumped on him. :cantlook:
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Perot was just another flim-flam "doing just this one thing will fix all our deficit problems" person. I don't know what his stance was on personal liberties, but I suspect he held the typical GOP version of "do whatever you like as long as it agrees with my way of thinking." Perot was there when nutjobbery as we know it today was in its infancy.
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ZekeB wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:43 am
Perot was just another flim-flam "doing just this one thing will fix all our deficit problems" person. I don't know what his stance was on personal liberties, but I suspect he held the typical GOP version of "do whatever you like as long as it agrees with my way of thinking." Perot was there when nutjobbery as we know it today was in its infancy.
I agree on Perot. A Perot presidency would have been a disaster. He botched the pick of a running mate bigly. That's never a good sign. He may have helped elect Bill Clinton a defeat Bush though. That's a good thing.
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To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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We moved to Dallas in 1983 for my husband to work at EDS and his very first day on the job he got turned around in the massive building while leaving. He was completely lost trying to find the elevator so stopped the first person he saw to ask for directions. It happened to be Ross Perot, who not only gave him directions but escorted him to where he needed to be, which was out front where I was picking him up after work. I was hugely pregnant at the time but he introduced himself to me and chatted about the coming baby and the one in the back seat. Every time he saw my husband after that he made it a point to speak to him and ask about me and the kids. His employees were well-treated and very loyal until the end.

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Well, I had a completely different experience at EDS. I was at a GM plant shortly after EDS took over their data processing functions. It wasn't a great job and I had the worst manager of my career while I was there. I remember that the employee handbook had some ridiculous (and probably unenforceable) stipulations in it. I could't wait to get out of there. When he announced his run for president all I could think was how much it scared me to think of that man trying to run the country the way he ran his business. It would have been a cold day in hell before I voted for him.
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Shizzle Popped wrote:
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Well, I had a completely different experience at EDS. I was at a GM plant shortly after EDS took over their data processing functions. It wasn't a great job and I had the worst manager of my career while I was there. I remember that the employee handbook had some ridiculous (and probably unenforceable) stipulations in it. I could't wait to get out of there. When he announced his run for president all I could think was how much it scared me to think of that man trying to run the country the way he ran his business. It would have been a cold day in hell before I voted for him.
My husband transferred from the local GM plant IT division here and had nothing nice to say about it, but working in Dallas was a completely different situation.

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I've heard that he was a thoroughly decent guy. I thought his main campaign issue was NAFTA, more than the budget deficit.
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My first manager there was an older GM guy and he was fine but he transferred to a new plant. They brought a new manager in from some other EDS site and she was a nightmare. I've often wondered how much my views are clouded by this one bad manager but there were a few incidents that seemed legally questionable and almost certainly had to have support from people higher up the food chain.

I wish I could remember some of the stuff that was in the employee handbook but I remember wondering what the hell I had just gotten myself into when I read it.
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:00 pm
I wish I could remember some of the stuff that was in the employee handbook but I remember wondering what the hell I had just gotten myself into when I read it.
I found this article from 1992 - Perot’s EDS Restricted Employees’ Dress, Personal Conduct. Does it bring back memories?
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I found this article from 1992 - Perot’s EDS Restricted Employees’ Dress, Personal Conduct. Does it bring back memories?
Yeah, that's part of it. They don't get into the personal conduct thing much but I seem to remember something about having to leave a bar if you were having a drink and somebody from the client walked in.

The dress code was pretty specific and I actually got into it with the new manager over it. The GM manager had told us that 2nd and 3rd shift operations staff didn't have to wear a tie. I was working 2nd shift one day when the new manager, who'd probably been around 6 months at this point, walks in and starts to berate me for not having a tie on. Nobody had said a word to anybody about a change in the policy and I probably would have been fine if it had been handled differently. As it was I was fed up with the place and was already looking for a new job and this was the last straw. I wouldn't do this today, but I went home and reread the dress code and found a way to follow the code and make them wish I had dressed the way I normally did. The next day the manager walks in, sees me and leaves in a huff. A few minutes later a supervisor walks in and asks me what I thought I was doing to which I just played dumb. I was probably only there a month or two after that incident but none of us in operations wore a tie after that and nobody said a word about it.
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Shizzle Popped wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:11 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:07 pm
I found this article from 1992 - Perot’s EDS Restricted Employees’ Dress, Personal Conduct. Does it bring back memories?
Yeah, that's part of it. They don't get into the personal conduct thing much but I seem to remember something about having to leave a bar if you were having a drink and somebody from the client walked in.

The dress code was pretty specific and I actually got into it with the new manager over it. The GM manager had told us that 2nd and 3rd shift operations staff didn't have to wear a tie. I was working 2nd shift one day when the new manager, who'd probably been around 6 months at this point, walks in and starts to berate me for not having a tie on. Nobody had said a word to anybody about a change in the policy and I probably would have been fine if it had been handled differently. As it was I was fed up with the place and was already looking for a new job and this was the last straw. I wouldn't do this today, but I went home and reread the dress code and found a way to follow the code and make them wish I had dressed the way I normally did. The next day the manager walks in, sees me and leaves in a huff. A few minutes later a supervisor walks in and asks me what I thought I was doing to which I just played dumb. I was probably only there a month or two after that incident but none of us in operations wore a tie after that and nobody said a word about it.
I bet you looked cute in that skirt and sweater set though. :)

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I've read a few articles today (including the one linked below) on Perot's corporate culture. One article said no facial hair, another said 'neatly trimmed' mustaches only, no beards. One article said men had to wear only white dress shirts, another article said the male employees were given a stipend to purchase two suits/year. And one of the articles mentioned they were emulating IBM's culture, who was their major competitor at the time.

And in one of the articles, it said this strict dress code did not carry to his Presidential campaign staff.
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Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:20 pm
Shizzle Popped wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:11 pm
...... I wouldn't do this today, but I went home and reread the dress code and found a way to follow the code and make them wish I had dressed the way I normally did. The next day the manager walks in, sees me and leaves in a huff. A few minutes later a supervisor walks in and asks me what I thought I was doing to which I just played dumb. .....
I bet you looked cute in that skirt and sweater set though. :)
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Reality Check wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:59 am
ZekeB wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:43 am
Perot was just another flim-flam "doing just this one thing will fix all our deficit problems" person. I don't know what his stance was on personal liberties, but I suspect he held the typical GOP version of "do whatever you like as long as it agrees with my way of thinking." Perot was there when nutjobbery as we know it today was in its infancy.
I agree on Perot. A Perot presidency would have been a disaster. He botched the pick of a running mate bigly. That's never a good sign. He may have helped elect Bill Clinton a defeat Bush though. That's a good thing.
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I was considering writing a whole thing about the relationship between Perot and Trump but it turns out Perot was a maxed-out donor to the Trump re-election campaign which I think makes it pretty simple.
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DejaMoo wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:51 pm
Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesias

I was considering writing a whole thing about the relationship between Perot and Trump but it turns out Perot was a maxed-out donor to the Trump re-election campaign which I think makes it pretty simple.
:shock: Enough said.
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Sadie Roberts-Joseph, Founder Of African American Museum, Found Dead In Car Trunk
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — A 75-year-old Louisiana woman who founded an African American history museum was discovered dead in the trunk of a car, and police said Saturday that investigators were working diligently to find those responsible.
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“Ms. Sadie was a tireless advocate of peace,” the Baton Rouge Police Department posted on its Facebook page, adding: “Our detectives are working diligently to bring the person or persons responsible for this heinous act to justice.”
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The museum features African art, exhibits on growing cotton and black inventors as well as a 1953 bus from the period of civil rights boycotts in Baton Rouge. It also has prominent exhibits on President Barack Obama, whose presidency Roberts-Joseph cited as an inspiration to children.

“We have to be educated about our history and other people’s history,” Roberts-Joseph told the newspaper in 2016. “Across racial lines, the community can help to build a better Baton Rouge, a better state and a better nation.”
She was last seen by her sister when she dropped off cornbread batter to be baked. “The bread is still there. She never came back to get it.” :(

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