Jamal Khashoggi murder... will it ensnare Trump?

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This is quite suspicious to me. Given that we don't fully understand the Turkish agenda, and given that Turkey hasn't always behaved in a way to inspire a reputation for honesty, I would feel more comfortable with the conclusions of their investigation if they shared the audio:

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-ea ... 0423107568

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Khashoggi ‘kill squad’ member dies in ‘suspicious’ road accident
A MAN suspected as being part of a team of Saudi security forces who “tortured and killed” journalist Jamal Khashoggi has died in a “suspicious” car accident.

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News Corp Australia NetworkOCTOBER 19, 20189:41AM

ONE of the alleged “hit squad” behind the brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi has reportedly been killed in a “suspicious” car accident.

Meshal Saad M Albostani, a lieutenant in the Saudi Royal Air Force, is said to have been killed in a car accident in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

He is among a group of men wanted for questioning after Khashoggi went missing having entered the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul two weeks ago, reports The Sun.

Turkish pro-government news organisation, Yeni Safak, which carried the report of the crash, claims there are now fears he “could have been silenced”.


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Breaking: Saudi state media announcing nation’s findings in #Khashoggi’s death. Initial translation suggests there was a physical altercation at the consulate, resulting in journalist’s death. A high-ranking intelligence chief reportedly dismissed & several subjects detained.


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Look, he came in, picked a fight, he got punched and he fell and hit his head on a table, which killed him.

Then naturally we dismembered him with a bone saw.

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Saudi Arabia fires 5 top officials, arrests 18 Saudis after admitting Khashoggi was killed in fight at consulate
ISTANBUL — The Saudi government acknowledged early Saturday that journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed while visiting the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, saying he died during a fist fight.

The announcement, which came in a tweet from the Saudi foreign ministry, said that an initial investigation by the government’s general prosecutor found that Khashoggi been in discussions with people inside the consulate when a quarrel broke out, escalating to a fatal fist fight.

The Saudi government said it had fired five top officials and arrested 18 other Saudis as a result of the initial investigation. Those fired included Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s adviser Saud al-Qahtani and deputy intelligence chief Maj. Gen. Ahmed al-Assiri.

The announcement marks the first time that Saudi officials have acknowledged that Khashoggi was killed inside the consulate. Ever since he disappeared on Oct. 2 while visiting the mission, Saudi officials have repeatedly said that he left the consulate alive and that they had no information about his whereabouts or fate.
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The BBC understands the police are searching the Belgrade forest because it is believed at least two vehicles from the Saudi consulate headed in that direction on the day of the suspected killing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east- 45909732
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More about the investigation.
Turkish crime scene investigators this week searched the building and the nearby residence of the Saudi consul general and came out carrying bags and boxes. The 15 Turkish employees brought to give testimony included the consul general’s driver, technicians, accountants and telephone operators, according to state-run Anadolu Agency.

A journalist for The Associated Press saw a group of people leaving the consulate in a van. Later in the day, the same people were seen in video from a courthouse, where Turkish media said they had given testimony.

A Turkish official told AP that investigators are looking into the possibility that Khashoggi’s remains may have been taken outside Istanbul. Speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, the official said police have established that two vehicles belonging to the consulate left the building Oct. 2. One traveled to the Belgrade Forest on the city’s outskirts, while the other went to the city of Yalova, across the Sea of Marmara from Istanbul, the official said.

It was not immediately clear if police had already searched those locations.
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But...even if I bought that story (which I don't), why not report it immediately to the authorities with the story and produce a body that's been bruised up a lot?

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18 against 1? Khashoggi should have been booked against Floyd Mayweather. What a fucking lie. :madguy:
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I hate it when I get in a fistfight :boxing: and they cut me up with bone saws. :madguy:

That just frosts mah nuggets. :talktothehand:
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Foggy wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:30 pm
I hate it when I get in a fistfight :boxing: and they cut me up with bone saws. :madguy:

That just frosts mah nuggets. :talktothehand:
But, but Elizabeth Warren said she was an Indian and Hillary's emails? Let's put things in perspective for goodness sakes.
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Reality Check wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:00 pm
Foggy wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:30 pm
I hate it when I get in a fistfight :boxing: and they cut me up with bone saws. :madguy:

That just frosts mah nuggets. :talktothehand:
But, but Elizabeth Warren said she was an Indian and Hillary's emails? Let's put things in perspective for goodness sakes.
We get it, RC, you think indigenous rights and Native sovereignty are a waste of time and non-issues. While some might cal it "racism" I'll just say move the fuck on already.

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maydijo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:03 pm

We get it, RC, you think indigenous rights and Native sovereignty are a waste of time and non-issues. While some might cal it "racism" I'll just say move the fuck on already.
No I get it. I just drove up US 84 north of Santa Fe this week and there is a huge tribal operated tax free casino at every exit for about 20 miles (and they are building new ones). When other minorities like blacks get to run those I would start to care a lot more. I think the current NA purity movement is all about not having their share of that tax free income diluted and nothing more.
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Reality Check wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:20 pm
maydijo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:03 pm

We get it, RC, you think indigenous rights and Native sovereignty are a waste of time and non-issues. While some might cal it "racism" I'll just say move the fuck on already.
No I get it. I just drove up US 84 north of Santa Fe this week and there is a huge tribal operated tax free casino at every exit for about 20 miles (and they are building new ones). When other minorities like blacks get to run those I would start to care a lot more. I think the current NA purity movement is all about not having their share of that tax free income diluted and nothing more.
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So basically racism then. Maybe take a few indigenous studies classes, then you'll see that these are incredibly complex global issues confronting pretty much every non-European country and have very little to do with tax-free casinos. We're dealing with the lasting legacy of occupation and genocide. We've never dealt with it properly; and because white people really don't care, it'll always be shunted to the side and ignored and pushed to the bottom of the pile. But hey,
let's just pretend it's about tax-free casinos, then we won't have to do the deep soul-searching that comes from actually recognising what 400+ years of oppression does to a nation.

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JAMAL KASHOGGI! Maybe take the NA argument to PM? We dont need it in every thread.
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Estiveo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:33 pm
JAMAL KASHOGGI! Maybe take the NA argument to PM? We dont need it in every thread.
You're right, I was wrong to bite when RC brought it up. I guess I'm still a bit on-edge for basically being called the next Hitler. Go figure.

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Estiveo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:33 pm
JAMAL KASHOGGI! Maybe take the NA argument to PM? We dont need it in every thread.
Seconded.

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It has long been my darkest fear that I would go to the DMV to get my license renewed, get in a fistfight with eighteen civil servants and be dismembered by a bone saw.
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Wow~ just woke up to this news...siriusly wtf The Saudis figure, "Just put out a lie as stupid as Trump would, as long as his base, and Trump swallows..."?? You're Khashoggi and you are facing 14 men, eight of so who are military security or whatever, and you start a fight...Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit having my mind boggled...

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Saudis are in trouble now. There are darkly amusing hashtags.

#Boneghazi

#HouseOfSawed

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"Don't bring a fistfight to a chokehold."

"Hey your chokehold got into my fistfight!"

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Why was Khashoggi murdered? Why so gruesomely?

Since there's video of him entering, isn't there video of the Saudis leaving with bundles?

Haven't the Saudis learned anything from Putin?

I feel like I'm missing a lot here.

One thing I keep wondering about is how the Obama administration would have handled this. Then I start to wonder if the Saudis would have done it during an Obama administration.

Off to see what the leader of the free world in Germany is saying . . .

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Dan1100 wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:09 am
Saudis are in trouble now. There are darkly amusing hashtags.

#Boneghazi

#HouseOfSawed

#HeWenttoJared
Probably not so amusing to his fiancee, who is a real person undergoing a real horror.

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maydijo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:27 pm
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I was wrong and I apologize. There are many valid reasons for preserving tribal history, language, lore and culture.

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However, I am not a racist and I brought up a perfectly valid point about casino income providing an incentive to limit tribal membership.
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